"Crushed by the Wheel of Time"

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"Crushed by the Wheel of Time"

Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.9.17

Mayapur, February 24, 1976

 

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Dayananda:"O the great Supreme, in every type of body, either in the

heavenly planet or in the hellish planet, there are pleasing and not pleasing

circumstances on account of combination and separation. But both of them are

very, very regrettable position, as if burning in the fire. Although there are

many remedial measures to get out of the miserable condition of life, but in the

material world any such counteraction is more miserable than the miserable

condition itself. The only remedial measure, I think, therefore, is to be

engaged in Your service. Kindly instruct me in that way."

 

Prabhupada:

 

yasmat priya apriya-viyoga-samyoga-janma-

sokagnina sakala-yonisu dahyamanah

duhkhausadham tad api duhkham atad-dhiyaham

bhuman bhramami vada me tava dasya-yogam

[sB 7.9.16]

 

Prahlada Maharaja, previous verse, he said, "I am very much afraid of this

material existential condition, duhkhalayam asasvatam [bg. 8.15]. Now he's

describing what is the different phases of such suffering yasmat, on account of

this material existence. When we come to this material world there are

connection with so many persons. Bhutapta-pitrnam, nrnam. As soon as we come

down from the womb of the mother, there are so many relatives, friends,

bhuta-apta, pitr, bhutapta bhutapta, rsi, pitrnam nrnam. We become connected.

But some of them are dear and some of them are not very friendly -- enemies.

This is the condition in the material world. Nobody can say that "I am situated

in a very nice condition. Everyone is my friend. No enemy." It is not possible.

That is the nature of this material world, that you come in contact with so many

persons, animals, and suppose your forefathers... It is described,

bhutapta-nrnam pitrnam. So we get connections. This is the way of nature. But

not all of them are friendly. Even one is friendly today, tomorrow he can become

enemy. This is the condition.

 

So yasmat priyapriya-viyoga-samyoga-janma. Viyoga-samyoga-janma. As soon

as one child is born, he is separated from the former life, and he is connected

with another new life, new body, viyoga-samyoga. Maybe the former body was very

pleasing, and this body is not very pleasing, degraded. That is possible.

Dehantara-praptih [bg. 2.13]. It is not that you'll always get a body very

pleasing. But the illusory energy is so strong, even one gets the body of a pig,

he thinks, "It is very nice." This is called praksepatmika-sakti. Maya has got

especially two energies: avaranatmika and praksepatmika. Generally maya keeps us

covered with illusion, and if one is little enlightened, wants to get out of the

clutches of maya, there is another potency of maya, who is that praksepatmika.

Suppose one thinks, "Now I shall become Krsna conscious. This ordinary material

consciousness is so disturbing. Let me become Krsna conscious." So maya will

say, "What you will do with this? Better remain in material consciousness." This

is called praksepatmika-sakti. Therefore sometimes some man comes in our

society; after staying for days, he goes away. This is praksepata, thrown away.

Unless he's very sincere, he cannot stay with us; he'll be thrown away. So

Prahlada Maharaja said that these two positions -- somebody is pleasing, and

somebody is not pleasing -- it is going on perpetually. Not that "If I change my

this body, this process will also stop." No. So long you have got this body in

the material world, you'll have these two processes. Somebody will be your

friend, and somebody will be your enemy. Yoga-samyoga-janma.

 

So as soon as there are enemies, there is lamentation, anxiety. Sokagnina.

Such lamentation is just like fire of lamentation. Sokagnina sakala-yonisu. If

you think that only the human society such things are there -- somebody's enemy,

somebody's friend -- no. In any society, any yoni... You have seen in the even

in the sparrows, the bird society, they are also fighting. You have seen it.

They are also mixing very intimately, again fighting, So either you take

birds... Or dogs. They are famous for fighting. So this is going on: somebody

very dear, somebody inimical and fighting between them. Sakala-yonisu

dahyamanah. You cannot get escape by avoiding one society and go to the other

society. That is not possible. Thus fire of disagreement, enmity and friendship,

it will go on, not only here, even in the heavenly planet. In the heavenly

planet there is fight between the devas and asuras. The asuras are envious of

the devas, and devas are also envious of the asuras. Everywhere. Even King

Indra, he has got enemies although he's very opulent. We want to go to the

heavenly planet for enjoying the opulence of that atmosphere, but there is also

the same thing. (aside, coughing:) Water. So you cannot avoid it, Prahlada

Maharaja says.

 

So we can try to counteract. Just like in this material world there are so

many attempts to mitigate. Just like the United Nation. They have formed the

United Nation formula to mitigate -- no more fighting, no more war, no more

enmity. This is an attempt. Enmity is there; otherwise why there is proposal of

United Nations? Because we are disunited, therefore the counterproposal is "Let

us become united." So he says, "To organize such thing is also very difficult

and troublesome.Although it is remedial measure, let us settle our

misunderstanding" -- it is very good proposal. But to settle up this

misunderstanding is more troublesome. You have got experience. When you make

some agreement with other party, he proposes something, you propose something.

So although the agreement is a remedial measure, but come to the agreement is

very, very difficult. Therefore Prahlada Maharaja says this remedial measure,

ausadha, is still more troublesome. When there was enmity, that is troublesome.

Just like when there is some disease, something -- you have got a boil in your

body -- it is painful, but when you take the remedial measure, surgical

operation, it is still more painful, still more. You have to take anesthetic,

chloroform, because it is more painful. So anywhere there is fight, there is

enmity, and if you want to settle up, it is more troublesome. So duhkhausadham

tad api duhkham. The remedial measure is more troublesome than the disease, than

the painful condition.

 

Duhkhausadham tad api duhkham atad-dhiyaham. Atat. Atat means untruth,

flickering, not... Atad-dhiyaham. We do not know what is our identification.

Misunderstanding. Dehatma-buddhi. Asad-grahat. Atat, asat, the same thing. We

have accepted this body, identifying this body, on account of this. If you are

on the spiritual platform, then there is no trouble, there is no

misunderstanding. If we understand properly by education or knowledge that "You

are also part and parcel of Krsna. I am also part and parcel of Krsna. Our real

position is to serve the Lord," so if we serve that, then there is no

misunderstanding. If we be engaged in Krsna's service, there cannot be any

misunderstanding. Otherwise, if we work on the platform of this body, material

body, there must be misunderstanding. Atad-dhiyaham. Bhuman: "My Lord, the

great," bhramami, "in this way I am wandering life after life, changing the

body, changing the situation, and in different situation, different mentality,

but there is no peace. There is no happiness, simply changing the body." Bhuman

bhramami vada me tava dasya-yogam: "In this way I am wandering throughout the

whole universe. Now please engage me in Your service."

 

So this is the right prayer, that unless you engage yourself in the

service of Krsna, you'll never get peace. This is a fact. We can discover so

many plans and remedial measures, and that will not help us. Only solution is to

surrender to Krsna. Krsna gives this nice advice: sarva-dharman parityajya mam

ekam saranam [bg. 18.66]. That will cure your all disease. And this mentality

comes by practical experience after many, many births, bahunam janmanam ante

jnanavan mam prapadyante [bg. 7.19], when one understands properly that without

becoming Krsna conscious, without being servant of Krsna, there cannot be peace

or happiness. Jnatva mam santim rcchati. Krsna says. Everything is directly

said. Bhoktaram. Why we fight one another? I am thinking that "I shall enjoy

this. I shall become the leader." And another party says, "No, no, I shall

become the leader. I shall enjoy this." So there is fight. But if we understand

that "Either you or me, we are not enjoyer; we are servant. The enjoyer is

Krsna," then there will be something. Bhoktaram yajna-tapasam

sarva-loka-mahesvaram, suhrdam sarva-bhutanam [bg. 5.29]. We are trying to

become friend of another friend. "My dear friend, I shall help you in this way.

You are in trouble." So he can help, but there will be misunderstanding. Again

the friend will be enemy. So there cannot be any peace. But if we all agree that

Krsna is the friend, real friend... Suhrdam sarva-bhutanam. Krsna, if He's not

our friend, why He's coming down on this platform where we are living in rotten

condition? He's great friend, Dina-bandhu. His name in Dina-bandhu. Who is very,

very poor in heart, He becomes very great friend, dina-bandhu, and advises him.

Buddhi-yogam dadami tam. He's always friendly. Krsna is never enemy. But still,

we create enmity. We become demon with Krsna. That is the trouble.

 

So it requires to become fortunate. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu said,

 

ei rupe brahmanda bhramite kono bhagyavan jiva

guru-krsna-krpaya paya bhakti-lata-bija

[Cc. Madhya 19.151]

 

In this way we are wandering throughout the universe, because unless we

become Krsna conscious, unless we have taken fully shelter at the lotus feet of

Krsna, there is no stoppage of this repetition of birth and death, neither there

is any peace or happiness. We must know this from all angles of vision and stick

to Krsna consciousness very rigidly. Then we shall be happy. Therefore Prahlada

Maharaja requests Lord Nrsimhadeva that "I have tried life after life to get

peace and become happy and friendly, but I have failed. Now, Krsna..." Prahlada

Maharaja says, vada me tava dasya-yogam: "Because I am now convinced that

without Your becoming servant, there is no more chance for peace and prosperity

of this troublesome world."

 

Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)

 

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Eventually the wheel of time will grind all things to powder,

ourselves included. Time itself is ever-presnt. It is we who are

wearing away. So then what on earth shall we do? To address this

problem I will do tapas. As time moves along, a prudent sadak will

move along with it. In this way we can go with the flow. It is better

to go with the current. Those who swim against the tide get

exhausted. Those who ride events can travel far. Our lives are an

event, so let us make it an event of spiritual progression. In this

way we ready ourselves for whatever is to follow. I will follow Devi,

and maybe She in turn will choose to follow me.

 

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> "Crushed by the Wheel of Time"

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> Mayapur, February 24, 1976

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