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12 December, 2003 10:37 PM

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> Dr Yadu,

> I think a brahmin is just another name for a spiritual person. As a

> westerner i have no respect for the system of castes and i do not

> believe in brahmins. I do have a great deal of respect for wise and

> great souls though, even if they belong to the untouchables.... I am

> just trying to say that only superficial people, would give authority

> to a person just due to its caste. Its funny, i thought that castes

> dont exist in modern india and yet, it still is a subject.

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Dear de_spell_2000,

 

Let us be a little careful and try to understand the whys and hows of the caste

system. What we are today is the result of our actions and residual desires,

cumulatively known as Karma, of our past lives. Whether we are born in America,

Ethiopia, India or elsewhere, is the result of this Karma. We don't have to

desire to be born in America but say we had some subtle unfulfilled desire at

the time of death, that can only be fulfilled in that country, the Supreme

Intelligence direct your next birth to that country or whatever.

 

The same is the case with the caste system. The caste system is meant to allow

us to make spiritual progress by doing our assigned duties honestly and

truthfully as an offering to the Lord. Today this significance may have lost

among many, is a different matter, but I am sure there must be some, even a

small minority who accept their given lot as a blessing of the Lord. If one is

placed in a Brahmin family to allow him to continue his Sadhana of the past, but

if he (includes she also if you may) abuses that status, he is sure to be hurled

down to a lower position in the next birth.

 

In our scriptures, the term "Narah and Purushah" denotes the Jiva who is caught

up in the cycle of births and deaths, regardless of their sex identification.

 

Here are some of the relevant quotes from the Gita on this topic:

 

(Gita CH.4, V.13)

"Chaturverniam Mayiasrishtham ....."

The four orders of the society (viz. the Brahman, the Ksatriya, the Vaisya and

the Sudra) were created by Me classifying them according to the mode of Prakriti

predominant in each and apportioning corresponding duties to them; ...

 

What are their natural duties that help them to make spiritual progress, are

described in Ch.18, V.41-45. (In the V.45, the Lord says,"By following his

qualities of work, every man can become perfect.)

 

(Gita Ch.18, V.8)

"Any one who gives up prescribed duties as troublesome or out of fear of bodily

discomfort is said to have renounced in the mode of passion (Rajas). Such action

never leads to the elevation of renunciation."

 

One who has started on the path of Yoga (spiritual path), and not having

completed the task in the present birth, for whatever reason, how does he

continue on the path in the future?

(Gita Ch.6, V.42-43)

"He is born in the family of enlightened Yogis; but such a birth in this world

is very difficult to obtain." (42)

"Arjuna, he automatically regains in that birth the spiritual insight of his

previous birth; and through that he strives, harder than ever, for perfection

(in the form of God Realization." (43)

 

These are just a few examples to show how the Lord facilitates our path to

perfection birth after birth through His system of Varna Ashrama Dharma.

 

Hari Om

radhakutir

 

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chant His sweet Names and who work in the world as

His instrument. Enthrone Him in your heart. Merge

yourself in Him. Continuous remembrance of the Lord

is the secret of success in life and God-

realization." - Swami Sivananda

 

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Thanks respected Radhakutirji it was an awesome account on caste

system.

 

another explantion given by a great saint is also worth reading.

As per Manusmriti there will be four types of persons in the society

 

1) Those whose Chetna (focus of concentration etc) is on the body

are called Shudra. They live for the body and do everything to keep

it alive. These type of person form the lowest category "Shudra"

They should serve the upper categories to advance to next stage of

evolution.

 

2) Those whose chetna is fixed on the Manas (mind). They will care

for their desires and will like luxuries to fulfil their desires of

this birth as well as of next. They will be known as Vaishya. They

should induldge in business and increase their families. They should

serve the society by means of business etc.

 

3) those whose chetna is fixed on EGO will be called Kshtriyas.

They will not care for the body or luxuries for the sake of self-

respect. They should serve the society by guarding the country and

induldge in wars to save Dharma

 

4) those whose chetna is fixed on Brahma (GOD), will be called

Brahmins. They will not care for body mind and ego and will be

induldged in knowing the higher truths of the Supreme. They should

serve the society by teaching the spirituality to others.

 

Now if we carefully see, we will find these four castes are found

all over the world, be it america, india or Europe. The only problem

in india is that we started connecting the birth with a caste, which

created problems for the society.

 

Clearly, caste relates to Karma of a person not his birth.

 

Reagrds and love

 

Nachiketa

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Dear dr_nachiketaji,

 

Thanks for your wonderful exposition. There is nothing accidental, incidental or

random, including the birth of an individual, in this wonderful creation of

ours. In the end the creation is said to be 'Mithya' and is equated to a dream,

perhaps that is why there is a seeming perfection and purpose behind every thing

and all happenings, which may not be obvious but it is there beyond doubt.

 

>>> Clearly, caste relates to Karma of a person not his birth. >>>

 

Of course the caste relates to one's Karma. It is only because of his past Karma

that determined his present birth. Having born in a particular caste if one

deviates from one's normal pursuits, he is sure to be born in a different set of

circumstances in his next birth. One' caste is relevant only to his present

birth and the future births shall perhaps be determined by his Karma of this

birth. In the Hindu system there is a name given to each caste, where in the

western world it is nameless caste determined by one's profession. It is our

ignorance about the caste system that has created problems in India.

 

 

Hari Om,

radhakutir

 

 

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16 December, 2003 10:50 AM

Re: Caste system as a means of spiritual progress

 

 

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> another explantion given by a great saint is also worth reading.

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> Now if we carefully see, we will find these four castes are found

> all over the world, be it america, india or Europe. The only problem

> in india is that we started connecting the birth with a caste, which

> created problems for the society.

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> Clearly, caste relates to Karma of a person not his birth.

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