Sons of God

[Guest guest]

Namaste:

 

Sri Yukteswar (Yogananda's Guru) in Holy Science says that we become

Sons of God upon being baptized into the Holy AUM vibration. However,

the Bible depicts Christ as the only Son of God. I'd like to

reconcile this. Comments are welcome.

[Guest guest]

dear omegananda

 

namaste

 

your posting reminded me of a chat i had yesterday with a

very "christian" person. Although the words of sri yukteswar are much

more trustworthy to me than any book written 2 thousand years ago

(even if it was written by god himself...lol) I would like to try to

explain why. And I would like to use my last nights chat if you dont

mind.

 

"de_spell_2000: hi...leaving so soon?

 

xxxxxxx: id let u shine my shoes....but i dont have a quarter

 

de_spell_2000: if you really need them clean i can shine then for

free

 

xxxxxxx: how white and catholic of u

 

de_spell_2000: i dont know what you mean....we are all gods children,

white or black, christian or hindu

 

xxxxxxxx: we are all created by God yes.....but real children of

God are those who are born again thru the blood of christ

 

de_spell_2000: i think real children of god are they who live the

gods love

 

xxxxxx: God is a spirit.......God is love......and God hase commended

his love toward man by the act of christs bllod as the forgiveness of

sin for man...that way those who accept Christ will be welcomed by

God because he will deem the bllod of christ as an act of forgiveness

for that particular individual,that way God isn't relative to

emotional or philosophical thinking,God becomes real because he gives

his spirit as a personal gift to those who accept chris as their own

personal savior

 

de_spell_2000: i see..

 

xxxxxx: i hope u do

 

 

de_spell_2000: well i have another view on this subject, but i dont

want to impose it on you, because i believe in religious tolerance...

 

xxxxxxx: if u havent accepted jesus as a personal savior for your own

individuality then chances are that u dont really know God

 

de_spell_2000: ok

 

xxxxxx: and you are then assuming who or what God is because of your

conditioned understanding thru religious or vain spiritual

techniques,I would encourage you to take a real hard look at the truth

 

de_spell_2000: i am sorry but you dont have the right to judge me...

dont judge said christ...so that you wont be judged.....you dont

sound very christian to me....have a nice day "

 

 

This guy, who was so sure that he had realized God, is a typical

example of the beliefs of the christian church. I believe its

hopeless to try to reconcile any yogic belief with the beliefs of

such a narrow minded religion. Of course there are ways to interprete

the bible but one needs broader understanding and acceptance to do

so. We, also mustn't forget the numerous translations that the bible

has undergone and that it is written in an absolutely symbolic

language. When we read that Christ is the only son of god, this might

imply that he was the only son of god at his time and at that region.

Maybe the writter just wanted to stress the fact that the greatest

spiritual person of that time and of that area was Jesus!

 

Yogananda used to say that we are all children of god...Is his

statement contradictory to the one of his guru??... It cant be..

yogananda meant by 'Gods Children' that we are all created by god,

whereas sri yukteshwar meant that we are able to commune with god.

They were talking about different things for different purposes by

using the same word.

 

Finally, i would like to conclude that, when it comes to various

spiritual texts, scriptures, beliefs and ideas, one should try to

understand which feelings tries the author to create in the reader.

Trying to stricktly analyse every word, causes only confusion and

even fanatism. There have been many sons of god, many great souls

that guided humanity, yogis, masters, avatars, even mere politicians

and artists had their way to help humanity... so jesus cannot be the

only son of god.... We are all children of god, and they who are

lucky

enough to have contact with him , are able to hear the Aauummmm..

within....

[Guest guest]

What a pity that within hours of your reply the author of the

post you are replying to d.

 

Thanks Angelina for your response. I couldn't agree with you more.

 

"Son" in this context doesn't mean literal son, does it? .. in fact

that wouldn't be technically possible .. son most likely

means "creation" in this case. Looking at it from that perspective

we are all "sons" or "creations"; only some are closer to realizing

our true nature than others.

 

When one gets to read more of the literature from Christ's period,

from the Gnostic texts to the other lost texts, it is evident that

the Christian Institution's exclusitivity clause was inserted much

after the time of Christ in an attempt to establish control. It is

this exclusivity clause - that one can get salvation ONLY through

Jesus the Christ- that makes it contradictory to the vedic

philosophies. Without it, in fact there are many wonderful Vedantic

Truths right in the midst of the beautiful Bible too, which people

see only if they wish to.

 

This was beautifully described and explained by Paramahansa

Yogananda ji.

 

 

_/\_ Tat twam asi

 

Uma

 

PS. Was Jesus Christ a Vegetarian?

[Guest guest]

Following is the Quote from Sathya Sai Baba's speech on Christmas

2002. Messenger, Son and one with God are different stages in

spiritual evolution. I hope this will answer your questions.

 

Aum!

-Sreeram

 

Jesus was a noble soul. He declared that he was the son of God, but

he never said that he was God. When Jesus was born, three royal wise

men from the east were guided by a star to a cowshed in Bethlehem

where the baby Jesus lay in a manger. He was radiating divine

effulgence. The first of them said, "This child will love God." The

second said, "He will be loved by God." The third said, "He will

love one and all. He is not different from God." The one who loves

God is the messenger of God; the one whom God loves is the son of

God; the one who understands the principle of unity becomes one with

God. This is the inner meaning of the statements given in the Bible.

The one you think you are; the one others think you are and the one

you really are. You should understand the import of these statements.

- Baba

 

 

 

, "Keith Johnson" <omegananda>

wrote:

> Namaste:

>

> Sri Yukteswar (Yogananda's Guru) in Holy Science says that we

become

> Sons of God upon being baptized into the Holy AUM vibration.

However,

> the Bible depicts Christ as the only Son of God. I'd like to

> reconcile this. Comments are welcome.

[Guest guest]

Dear Tatwamasi & others so there are four possible statements

 

1- I am son (Creation) of God who decides everything for me

 

2- I am God wrapped in Prakriti(Maya) and trying to unfold prakriti

and finding myself slowly

 

3- I am eternal Jivatama (Individual soul) ever present with Supreme

soul (God) and Prakriti and it is my Niyati (fate) to get induldged

in this web of happiness and sadness and slowly come out of it.

 

4 - I am nothing but a temporary illusion of a soul, looking like

trapped in Karma, and the moment Karmas are over, i will be nothing

but a big void.

 

Which of the above statement is TRUTH ?

 

 

love

 

PS all veggies will say vegetarianism is good and all meat eaters

will say to the contrary. Both are prejudiced so no use of this

discussion

[Guest guest]

All the four are true, they are like the rungs of a ladder to ascend towards the

highest, i,e, "Aham Brahamasmi", (one of the four Mahavakyas of the Vedas).

 

Hanuman tells Lord Rama upon asking, Who Are You?, "As a body I am your servant,

as a Jiva, I am part of you, and as Atma, I am non different from you". So one

needs to transcend from body consciousness towards the Self through one's

dedicated Sadhana.

 

Hari Om

radhakutir

 

 

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"dr_nachiketa" <no_reply>

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09 December, 2003 10:03 AM

Re: Sons of God

 

 

> Dear Tatwamasi & others so there are four possible statements

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