Guest guest Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 Hare Krishna! All glories to Srila Prabhuapda and Srila Gaurangapada! Please accept my humble obeisances. I pray that this meets each and everyone in perfect peace, health and in the service of Guru and Gauranga! My Dear Sardara Ji: You mention in your last post concerning Sri Krishna, that it appeared that He only advented only to punish and destroy. In many instances this may to the material mind appear so, but one must look deeper into the spiritual aspects of why Sri Krishna does what he does according to His perfect knowledge. Sri Krishna does not make decisions on the human level, but having perfect knowledge knows the jiva from birth to birth. In the Srimad Bhagavad Gita: Chapter 4, Verse 7 it is stated by Krishna Himself; yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata abhyutthanam adharmasya tadatmanam srijamy aham "Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice, O decendent of Bharata, and a predominant rise of irreligion, at that time I decend Myself." Sri Krishna appears by His own will whenever there is a predominance of irreligiosity and a disappearance of true religion. Principles of religion are laid down in the Vedas, and any time there is a discrepancy in religious principle, this makes one irreligious. The purpose of the Vedas is to estabilish such principles under the order of the Supreme Lord, and the Lord directly orders at the end of the Gita, that the highest principle of religion is to surrender unto Him only, and nothing more. The Vedic principles push one towards complete surrender unto Him; and whenever such principles are disturbed by the demonic, the Lord appears. Sri Krishna can manifest Himself anywhere, everywhere, and whenever He desires to appear. In each and every incarnation, He speaks as much about religion as can be understood by the particular people under their particular circumstances. But the mission is the same, to lead people to God consciousness and obedience to the principles of religion. Sometimes He descends personally, and sometimes He sends His official representative in the form of His Son, or servant, or Himself in some disguised form. When Sri Krishna does decend, He has to set right what is wrong in a particular place and in a particular situation. In the Bhagavad Gita, we read the story of Krishna and Arjuna and the battle of Kurukshetra. We have to look more at the converstation between Krishna and Arjuna and the message it conveys, and not the resultant actions on the battle field. The battle is nothing more than a backdrop to this conversation. If we dwell on the battle, we find just like in any battle, there are casualties of war. People are injured, suffer and many die. But what is the whole purpose of this battle of Kurukshetra? The whole purpose is the conversation. Krishna is telling not only Arjuna, but each and every one of us how to return to him. He is giving us the science of the soul. Before the conversation even gets started good, Krishna Himself summerizes everything He is going to say in Chapter Two. Then He goes on to explain in depth that confidential knowledge. When we read the story of Prahlada Maharaja in the Srimad Bhagavatam, Seventh Canto, we read of who Hiranyakashipu was, and the type of individual he truly became. This man was so wicked that even Lord Indra, the King of Heaven feared him. Sri Krishna advented as Lord Sri Nrishimadeva to protect His pure devotee Prahlada Maharaja. Prahlada Maharaja not only worshipped and served Sri Krishna, but also taught his friends about Krishna. In the evil empire of Hiranyakashipu, this was intollerable. In the Eighth Chapter, it states that King Hiranyakashipu could not stand his son's devotional service and was ready to kill him. King Hiranyakashipu's sin did not begin and end with Prahlada, but like most demons, he wanted the very throne of Sri Krishna. So attempting to put himself on the same level as Sri Krishna, when King Hiranyakashipu during his argument with his son Prahlada, he stated: YAS TVAYA MANDA-BHAGYOKTO MAD-ANYO JAGAD-ISVARAH KVASAU YADI SA SARVATRA KASMAT STAMBHE NA DRISYATE "OH MOST UNFORTUNATE PRAHLADA, YOU HAVE ALWAYS DISCRIBED A SUPREME BEING OTHER THAN ME, A SUPREME BEING WHO IS ABOVE EVERYTHING, WHO IS THE CONTROLLER OF EVERYONE, AND WHO IS ALL PREVADING. BUT WHERE IS HE? IF HE IS EVERYWHERE, THEN WHY IS HE NOT PRESENT BEFORE ME IN THIS PILLAR!? so 'ham vikatthamanasya sirah kayad dharami te gopayeta haris tvadya yas te saranam ipsitam "Because you are speaking so much nonsense, I shall now sever your head from your body. Now let me see your most worshipable God come to protect you. I want to see it. As the story goes on the next couple of verses, King Hiranyakashipu picked up his sword, and while getting up from his throne struck a column in anger. In Chapter 8, verses 15-32, we read the story of the battle between King Hiranyakashipu and Sri Nrisimhadeva is described in vast detail. This great epic describes the fear of the demigods at such a terrible incarnation, one inwhich the three worlds were shaken to their very foundations. When Sri Krishna decends, and during His lilas He kills demons, armies, enemies of His devotees, one has to understand the science of the soul. Sri Krishna states; dehi nityam avadhyo 'yam dehe sarvasya bharata tasmat sarvani bhutani na tvam shocitum arhasi "O decendant of Bharata, he who dwells in the body can never be slain. Therefore you need not grieve for any living being." and again, Sri Krishna says; na jayate mriyate va kadacin nayam bhutva bhavita va na bhuyah ajo nityah sasvato 'yam purano na hanyate hanyamane sarire "For the soul there is neither birth nor death at any time. He has not come into being, does not come into being, and will not come into being. He is unborn, eternal, ever-existing and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain." BG 2:20 So when one understands the science of the soul, as Sri Krishna explains in the second chapter of the Gita, one begins to see the deaths of so many of Krishna's enemies in a new light. Also, with this destruction of the wicked, such as Hiranyakashipu, Putana, Dhenudasura, Pralambasura, the Aghasura Demon, Kesi and Vyomasura, Kamsa, the army of Dhritarashtra, karma has dictated their place in this life. Life time after life time these jiva's have decided not to surrender to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Sri Krishna. Life time after life time they have abused and tormented the pure devotees of the Lord. They have completely disrupted any pure service, sacrifice and worship of the Lord to the point where Sri Krishna Himself has to decend to set the society back in order. There is a bright side to this though. Sri Krishna give complete salvation to the enemies that He kills. Srila Prabhupada in his book, "The Nectar of Devotion" writes: "Another name for salvation is apavarga. Apavarga is the opposite of pavarga, or the various miserable conditions of material existance. The word pa-varga indicates the combination of the five Sanskrit letters: pa, pha, ba, bha and ma. These letters are the first letters of the words for five different conditions. The first letter, pa, comes from the word parabhava, which means "defeat". In this material struggle for existence, we are simply meeting defeat. Actually, we have to conquer birth, death, disease and old age, and because there is no possibility of overcoming all these miserable conditions, due to the illusion of Maya we are simply meeting with parabhava. The next letter, pha, is taken from the word phena. Phena is the foam which is found on the mouth when one is very tired (as is commonly observed with horses). The letter ba comes from the word bandha, or bondage. Bha is taken from the word bhiti, or fearfulness. Ma is taken from the word mriti, or death. So the word pavarga signifies our struggle for existence and our meeting with defeat, exhaustion, bondage, fearfulness and at last, death. Apavarga means that which can nullify all of these material conditions. Krishna is said to be the giver of apavarga, the path of liberation. For the enemies of Krishna, liberation means merging into the Supreme. The demons do not care for Krishna, but Krishna is so kind that He gives this liberation even to His enemies. There is the following statement in this connection. "O murari [Krishna]! How wonderful it is that although the demons, who are always envious of the demigods, have failed to penetrate Your military phalanx, they have penetrated the region of mitra, the sun globe." The word mitra is used metaphorically. Mitra means, "sun globe," and also means "friend". The demons who opposed Krishna as enemies wanted to penetrate His military phalanx, but instead of doing this, they died in battle, and the result was that they penetrated the planet of Mitra, or the sun planet. In other words, they entered into the Brahman effulgence. The example of the sun planet is given here because the sun is ever-illuminating, like the spiritual sky, where there are innumberable illuminating Vaikuntha planets. The enemies of Krishna were killed, and instead of penetrating Krishna's phalanx, they entered into the friendly atmosphere of the spritual effulgence. That is the mercy of Krishna, and therefore He is known as the deliverer of His enemies also." In my humble opinion, I do not see Krishna's lilas as punishment of his enemies as much as liberation of a much higher order. During times of adversity, the general population has a natural tendence to call on the name of the Lord more purely, seek His association on a purer level. It is in these times that the people call out to their God, (whether it is Krishna, Visnu, Jesus, Jehovah, Allah, etc) for deliverance from thier oppression. When He does decend, His killing of His enemies grants relief to the population, at this time he reinstitues religious principles, and at the same time grants liberation to his enemies. This is pure mercy. If Sri Krishna did not provide this ultimate mercy, then it is logical to believe that evil individuals, such as King Hiranyakashipu and the demons would spend billions of lifetimes in the hellish planets before they were allowed to return to this one even as the lowest life form. Srila Prabhupada has taught that it takes millions of life times in the animal and plant kingdoms to attain human form, and out of all the humans, it is a rare soul that finds Sri Krishna, and even rarer still, finds liberation. Sri Krishna in His ultimate mercy, has allowed these evil jivas to end their incarnations by His hand alone, and being killed by him, they have attained the liberation that the sadhus are greedy for. I pray that this has been helpful in your understanding. Again, I pray this finds you in perfect peace, health and in the service of the Lord. Your eternal servant; Arjunananda Gauranga Nitaipada Maharaja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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