"Sache Phansi Chadh di wekhe, Jhothey Mauj Manadi" WHY?

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Uma, Shiva,Pyari.svca and all.

I dare start a new subjectline. The tile is in vernaculer Punjabi

dilect of India. It Means, "The truthfull persons are seen in this

world ofeten suffering like a death sentence, while liers and

blasphmiiers are found making meeriment and rejoicing in this world."

My querry is:-

1.Why it is so, and

2.A honest Saadhak is very often than not, seen in "sufferings", and

still preached unattachment.

Comments please

Love,

Satish

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Satish,

 

If I may, I'll offer my own personal take on this

subject.

 

Suffering only exists as long as we acknowlede that we

are suffering. If we realize that we are not

suffering, *then we are not*. If we are blissful upon

taking a meager meal of only rice, then we *are*

blissful. To a starving man, a meal of rice would be a

happy time, be sure. If a man goes to work each day,

doing some form of dirty work, and he is blissful

knowing that he is doing his duty...then the man *is*

blissful. What appears to you or I as suffering may,

in fact, not be perceived as such all around.

 

If the mind is not dwelling upon suffering or worldly

pleasures of the senses, then we will realize no one

is suffering if (s)he knows God. This is, of course,

easier said than done. It takes practice. I feel that

it is during the times of "practice" that we feel we

are suffering.

 

With Love,

Erica

 

--- safar_x <no_reply> wrote:

> Uma, Shiva,Pyari.svca and all.

> I dare start a new subjectline. The tile is in

> vernaculer Punjabi

> dilect of India. It Means, "The truthfull persons

> are seen in this

> world ofeten suffering like a death sentence, while

> liers and

> blasphmiiers are found making meeriment and

> rejoicing in this world."

> My querry is:-

> 1.Why it is so, and

> 2.A honest Saadhak is very often than not, seen in

> "sufferings", and

> still preached unattachment.

> Comments please

> Love,

> Satish

>

>

 

 

 

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Jaya Sri Radhey! I like to remember an old message in this regard:

 

/message/3761

 

 

 

Though it is said

" Dhukmay sumiran sub kare , sukh mein kare na koi

............"

 

But in actual life, people who remember God constantly seem to suffer

more than the people who remember God only when they are in trouble.

We are yet to find an answer to the age old question " Why do bad

things always happen to Good people?"

 

Jaya Sri Radhey! Namaste all.

 

The answer can be found in the prayers of Queen Kunti devi, a great

devotee of Lord, who had suffered all her life.

 

"Salutations to Krishna born of Vasudeva and Devaki !

Salutations again and again to the Brahman of the Upanishads Who has

appeared in His sportive manifestation as the Son of Nanda."

 

-Srimad Bhagavatam 1.8.21

 

"O Teacher of all the worlds !

Let Perils face us at every step;

for it is in dangerous situations that we feel the presence of You,

Whose vision bestows freedom from rebirth.

 

-Srimad Bhagavatam 1.8.25

 

"No one can understand the real intentions of Your sportive actions

when You simulate the ways of men in Your incarnations.

 

None is friendly or inimical to You. You come only to redeem Jivas

and even the destruction of so called enemies is only to bless them

and give them salvation thereby.

 

-Srimad Bhagavatam 1.8.29

 

Lord declares:

 

"He on whom I am going to bestow My grace, I slowly deprive him of

all his wealth. When his wealth is gone, his friends, kith and kin

desert him, making him sink into utmost sorrow and despair."

 

- Srimad Bhagavatam 10.88.8

 

When his further efforts to gain wealth also fail, thanks to My will,

he becomes filled with dispassion and gets associated with My

devotees. On such a one I bestow My grace."

 

- Srimad Bhagavatam 10.88.9

 

"yasyAhamanugRhNami vittaM tasya harAmyaham,

karoti bandhu vicchedaM sa tu duHkhena jIvati.

santApeSvapi kaunteya yadi mAM na parityajet,

dadAmyahaM svIya padaM devAnAmapi durlabham."

 

(Lord Krishna gave similar message again to Arjuna in Padma Purana)

 

"He on whom I am going to bestow My grace, I take away all his

wealth, separate him from his family and friends, so that he may live

his life in utter sorrow bereft of all his possessions.

 

Though fully distressed with his material conditions, if he doesnot

give up My devotion in his suffering state, I extend to that sincere

devotee My own abode which is impossible to attain even by celestial

beings."

 

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If we look at any genuine saint's life, like Kabir, Mirabai, Rabi'a,

Ramakrishna, Tukaram, (blind poet) Suradas, Jesus, Caitanya

Mahaprabhu and so on, all had their share of suffering during their

period and were subjected to difficuties by the wicked. In the entire

history we cannot find any genuine saint who had not suffered.

 

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Another beautiful verse given by Lord comes to my mind where

suffering for the sake of Lord itself is a kind blessing from Him:

 

In the Bhagavata Purana (10.32.30), when the Cowherdesses ACCUSE LORD

KRISHNA OF CRUELTY FOR DESERTING THEM, HE ANSWERS:

 

"I, THE EMBODIMENT OF MERCY- HOW CAN I BE CRUEL, AND ESPECIALLY TO MY

DEVOTEES?

 

NO, NEVER!

 

MY DISAPPEARENCE IS ONLY A VEIL THAT I DRAW IN ORDER TO NOURISH

YEARNING AND LOVE FOR ME BY THE FIRE OF SEPARATION.

 

AS A POOR MAN HITTING BY CHANCE ON A TREASURE AND AGAIN LOOSING IT,

IS CONSTANTLY BROODING OVER IT,

SO I WISH THAT MY DEVOTEE SHOULD NOT FOR A MOMENT FORGET ME."

 

Jaya Sri Radhey!