Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 The statues on the tower is a good example of how people can forget to realise that God is shouldering all our burden. I read another story something similar to this. A person was walking uphill. The path was full of pebbles and rugged. After some time he thought if there is somebody walking with him, he will not feel the tiredness. What a surprise. When he rounded a corner he found an old man waiting on the path. The old man asked this person whether he could come along with him. Our man felt so happy he failed to realise the coincidence. Both were walking along. After some more time the person felt very tired and sat on the ground. Soon he felt asleep. He had a dream. He was walking briskly uphill from where there was a flood of light. The light was so powerful it made him to awake. He saw that he was on top of the hill. He thought he has actually walked to the top. Then he turned round and saw the old man looking at him with a smile. Now this person asked the old man 'who are you?'. I am the God, the old man replied. This person thought the old man is a 'nut'. Again the old man said 'you have come to me. You see downhill and you can see the footprints all the way from the bottom.' The person looked down and saw first one pair of footprints and from the bend onwards there were two pairs of footprints. Then on the more difficult steep rise, again one pair of footprints. The person asked 'If you are God, why did you leave me when I had to negotiate the most difficult part of the journey?' The old man said, 'I did not leave you, I carried you all the way up.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2002 Report Share Posted July 13, 2002 44. Those who experience the sufferings that result from desire for relationships and desire for material possessions will finally one day or other become disgusted with these desires and renounce them. But the desire for honor (puhazh) that comes to one is a very treacherous delusion (maya) that is skillful in concealing and not showing the dangerous harm that lies in itself. Therefore, people will find more and more joy in this desire for power and honor (puhazh-asai) and will not shrink from it. Note: When the mind experiences intense suffering due to the dis-ease which results from the desire for women or due to the enmity which results from the desire for sons, it will sooner or later automatically gain a liking to renounce them. Similarly, on account of the endless misery that results from having desire for gold, land and wealth, the mind will sooner or later automatically gain a liking to renounce such possessions. Thus desire for relationships and material possessions (uravasai and porul-asai) will one day or other reveal the dangerous harm that lies in themselves. But when desire for honor, name and fame (puhazh) is experienced more and more, it will make the mind feel only a delusion of joy, and hence the dangerous harm that lies hidden in it cannot easily be discerned by the mind. That is why Sri Bhagavan warns us in verse 37 of Supplement to Reality in Forty Verses (Ulladu Narpadu Anubandham), "Even though all the worlds have been renounced as mere straw, and even though all the scriptures have been mastered, for those who have come under the sway of the wicked harlot called praise, honor, recognition or appreciation, ah, to escape from slavery to her is indeed very difficult!" -- Ramana Maharshi Hari Aum !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 - Hello S V C S, Thank you for your sharing. I read it over quickly this morning and one thing came to mind, and I think it *might* have been Swami Ramdas who said this, it was about the fact/idea that when starts to go more deeply within, one doesn't read a lot or as much (etc..don't remember exact words), and that it takes one soul to illuminate another, and therefore the PHYSICAL presence of saints/holy beings is so important. I think it might have been Swami Ramdas who said this. I know I was reading a lot of his material for quite awhile back about 2-3 months ago when I was going through a very difficult time and feeling a lot of grief about so much loss in my life... I would like to say that I am glad to once again be reading and posting in this group. Much love to all, Kathy -- In , s_v_c_s <no_reply> wrote: > D.: Is the study of science, psychology, physiology, philosophy, etc. > helpful for this art of yoga-liberation and the intuitive grasp of > the unity of the Real? > > M.: Very little. Some knowledge is needed for yoga and it may be > found in books. But practical application is the thing needed, and > personal example, personal touch and personal instructions are the > most helpful aids. As for the other, a person may laboriously > convince himself of the truth to be intuited, i.e., its function and > nature, but the actual intuition is akin to feeling and requires > practice and personal contact. Mere book learning is not of any great > use. After realization all intellectual loads are useless burdens and > are thrown overboard as jetsam. Jettisoning the ego is necessary and > natural. > > -- Ramana Maharshi > > Hari Aum !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 Welcome back Kathy ! I'm really so glad to see you back. I really love some of the excerpts you posted earlier from a book entitled "MOTHER OF ALL" by Richard Schiffman. I look forward to seeing more messages / excerpts. _/\_ Hari Aum !!! , celestial_saraswati <no_reply> wrote: > - > Hello S V C S, > > Thank you for your sharing. I read it over quickly this morning and > one thing came to mind, and I think it *might* have been Swami Ramdas > who said this, it was about the fact/idea that when starts to go more > deeply within, one doesn't read a lot or as much (etc..don't remember > exact words), and that it takes one soul to illuminate another, and > therefore the PHYSICAL presence of saints/holy beings is so > important. I think it might have been Swami Ramdas who said this. I > know I was reading a lot of his material for quite awhile back about > 2-3 months ago when I was going through a very difficult time and > feeling a lot of grief about so much loss in my life... > > I would like to say that I am glad to once again be reading and > posting in this group. > > Much love to all, > > Kathy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 Hello S V C S, I am glad to be able to post and would be happy to give you more from the words of Amma Anasuya Devi, if you like this. Here are some excerpts from a little book entitled "THUS SPAKE AMMA (Amtru-Shree Uvacha)--a translation in English--by Indumukhi (l992): "Samadhi (Communion with God) is not the state of losing consciousness and senses. It is to endure pain and suffering (ups and down) in life." (p. 30) "Anugraham (grace) exists at all times (always). Success in completing a work undertaken and also failure in attempts, all are happening due to Anugraham (grace) only." (p. 24) "Don't we think that "Dharma" (rightousness) is some thing one has to observe and hence it is to be observed? They have asked to observe Dharma, and therefore the desire to follow it comes, but it could not be practiced. Then to feel pain for not observing Dharma (i.e., for failure) is a very common happening. Every body desires to practice, but he fails to follow Dharma. Then it is apparent that the Shakti (power) which exists separately, can only make us act. Thus it is evident that to follow or not, is not within our hands (effort). That is why the power which motivates practicising, is Dharma itself and not the instruction to follow it, my son!" (p. 22) "If a person is declaring to have not committed a sin and is virtuous, it is only because 'HE' made him do it (i.e. not to commit a sin)" (p. 9) "Never think that you are doing anything of your own accord. Whatever work you feel like doing, the thought to execute the same is caused (given) by the Sankalpa (invisible volition). Even to keep quiet (to be idle) without doing any work is also caused by that Atita Shakti (Supernatural power) only, believe it my child! He, who gets the things executed, stands in you as a prompter. Becoming Everything Himself, He gets things done. Hence the ups and down in life (pleasure, grief, loss and profit) are attributable to Him alone who motivates and hence do not belong to you. That is why you should not presume that whatever is happening is due to your efforts (actions) alone. Your existance in this word (world? typo in book?) is Nama-matra (Name-Sake) only." (p. 29) I shall make more posts on the sayings of Amma Anasuya Devi in other posts, with the header: 'Amma Anasuya Devi'. I am glad if anything I share of Amma's words is helpful to you. Blessings, Kathy -- In , s_v_c_s <no_reply> wrote: > Welcome back Kathy ! I'm really so glad to see you back. > > I really love some of the excerpts you posted earlier from a book > entitled "MOTHER OF ALL" by Richard Schiffman. > > I look forward to seeing more messages / excerpts. > > _/\_ Hari Aum !!! > > > , celestial_saraswati <no_reply> wrote: > > - > > Hello S V C S, > > > > Thank you for your sharing. I read it over quickly this morning > and > > one thing came to mind, and I think it *might* have been Swami > Ramdas > > who said this, it was about the fact/idea that when starts to go > more > > deeply within, one doesn't read a lot or as much (etc..don't > remember > > exact words), and that it takes one soul to illuminate another, and > > therefore the PHYSICAL presence of saints/holy beings is so > > important. I think it might have been Swami Ramdas who said this. > I > > know I was reading a lot of his material for quite awhile back > about > > 2-3 months ago when I was going through a very difficult time and > > feeling a lot of grief about so much loss in my life... > > > > I would like to say that I am glad to once again be reading and > > posting in this group. > > > > Much love to all, > > > > Kathy > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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