RE: [Y-Indology] Sanskrit philosophy & Saussure.

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>[Y-Indology] Sanskrit philosophy & Saussure.

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>I am interested in a comparative discussion on ancient Sanskrit

>linguists Patanjali and Bhartrhari's philosophy of language with the

>language theories of Ferdinand de Saussure. Has Saussure been

>influenced by these ancient Sanskrit theories of language and if so,

>how? Could someone in your forum throw more light on this subject?

>Thank you in advance.

 

I took a couple of classes with an interesting chap not long ago graduated

from Chicago as a sanskritist, at the University of Toronto last year.

His book might interest you. Here is a review of it that can be found online,

as well as Robert Yelle's webpage.

 

Phillip

 

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http://www.semioticon.com/people/Yelle.htm

 

http://www.semioticon.com/semiotix/newsletterindex2.htm

 

Explaining Mantras: Ritual, Rhetoric, and the Dream of a Natural Language

in Hindu Tantra.

By Robert A. Yelle. Religion in History, Society, and Culture Series. Routledge,

2003.

Mantras are probably the most ancient and most puzzling language artefacts

that have been conveyed to us through a ritualistic tradition. The nature

of their meaning is one of the most debated questions among specialists.

Actually, the issue is whether or not they are meaningful in a linguistic

and semantic sense. In Explaining Mantras Robert Yelle proposes a semiotically

informed treatment of the question. Yelle's approach is pluridisciplinary

but in a synchretic rather than eclectic manner, as it draws his semiotic

inspiration from Michael Silverstein's work, bringing pragmatically together

the Peircean and Saussurean theoretical strands. The results are insightful

and go well beyond explaining mantras, ushering in new views on ritual,

poetic, rhetoric and law, and their mutual relations. Like all innovative

interpretations, there is no doubt that Yelle's conclusions will be considered

provocative and will reactivate the debate not only on mantras but also

on semiotic theories and methods. Given that the author has a solid background

in the history of religions, and is also a trained lawyer, his ability to

meet any intellectual and rhetorical challenges can be trusted.

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A thesis precisely on this subject is being prepared by a very

promising student at University of Rome "La Sapienza". The Supervisor

is the well-known de Saussure expert Prof. Tullio De Mauro (I am the

Co-Supervisor).

Regards,

Raffaele Torella

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Prof. Raffaele Torella

Titolare di "Lingua e Letteratura Sanscrita"

con affidamento di "Religioni e Filosofie dell'India"

Facoltà di Studi Orientali

Università di Roma "La Sapienza"

http://w3.uniroma1.it/torella/homepage.html

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Dear Prof. Torella,

Thank you for the information. I am glad to know someone is working presisely on

this subject. Would it be possible for you to share with me some of your ideas

on this subject?. What I need is a short comparison of Saussure with Patanjali,

Bhartrhari or Panini. and what are the similarities and differences. Are there

any published sources on this subject. Alternatively may I request you to inform

me something on this topic?

Thank you in advance

Kind regards

Sangeeta Mohanty

raffaele torella <torella wrote:

A thesis precisely on this subject is being prepared by a very

promising student at University of Rome "La Sapienza". The Supervisor

is the well-known de Saussure expert Prof. Tullio De Mauro (I am the

Co-Supervisor).

Regards,

Raffaele Torella

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Prof. Raffaele Torella

Titolare di "Lingua e Letteratura Sanscrita"

con affidamento di "Religioni e Filosofie dell'India"

Facoltà di Studi Orientali

Università di Roma "La Sapienza"

http://w3.uniroma1.it/torella/homepage.html

 

 

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Dear Mr. Cahill

Thank you very much. I will follow it up.

Regards

Sangeeta Mohanty

 

"Timothy C. Cahill" <tccahill wrote:

 

Dear Sangeeta Mohanty,

 

You might try the works of Harold Coward for this topic. E.g.:

 

Coward, Harold. *Derrida and Indian Philosophy* SUNY, 1990.

 

Coward, Harold G. "Bhartrhari's Dhvani: a central notion in

Indian aesthetics." In: Revelation in Indian thought: a Festschrift in

honour of Professor T. R. V. Murti. (Emeryville, Calif.: Dharma

Publications, 1977), pp. 65-85.

 

I noticed recently that C. Rajendran makes mention of Saussure very

briefly in *Studies in Comparative Poetics* Delhi, 2001.

 

One person who would likely know much more about this topic is Nadine

Berardi. She teaches Sanskrit at Emory University. You might try

contacting her at: nberard

 

best,

Tim Cahill

 

 

On Tue, 31 May 2005, Sasank Mohanty wrote:

 

> Dear Prof. Torella, Thank you for the information. I am glad to know

> someone is working presisely on this subject. Would it be possible for

> you to share with me some of your ideas on this subject?. What I need is

> a short comparison of Saussure with Patanjali, Bhartrhari or Panini. and

> what are the similarities and differences. Are there any published

> sources on this subject. Alternatively may I request you to inform me

> something on this topic? Thank you in advance Kind regards Sangeeta

> Mohanty

 

 

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