Guest guest Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 Dear Alex, Here are my thoughts. First of all, concepts like "conscious", "objects of consciousness", "empty" are usually highly technical. So, a lot of confusion arises when they are used in a wide sense instead of a narrow sense intended in a phylosophical system. A good example of such confusion is use of nirodha as equivalent of naza. nirodha of cittavRtti would mean only confinement, restriction of cittavRtti, where as naza of cittavRtti would mean that "stream of consciousness actually ceases to exist". Second, the goal of liberation is neither 'empty', nor cognitionless, nor sleep-like, nor is the state of complete unconsciousness. It is rather a state when one have complete control of all faculties (izvarata). So one is free shape the stream of consciousness to be either "empty" and "still" or to be traversing parA, parApara, parA stages of expression of vAk (as in Kashmiri Shaiva system). The state of liberation is feared (and not only in the West) because it leads to, or requires dissolution of ego, thus going against built-in attachment to survival and physical body. My guess is that a lot of misinterpretations arise because of this fear. Regards, Dmitri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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