Guest guest Posted December 21, 2004 Report Share Posted December 21, 2004 On S. Kalyanaraman's recent post: 1. Claims that Easter Island rongorongo was associated with Indus symbols were quite popular in the 1930s (following the work of Guillaume de Hevesy) and were also thoroughly debunked in the same period. For an amusing discussion of these old claims, see pp. 90-101 in Greg Possehl's history of pseudo-decipherments of the so-called Indus script (1996). Coincidentally, my collaborator Richard Sproat, at the University of Illinois, is an expert on rongorongo, whose status as a 'writing system' is itself widely doubted in the linguistic community. One of Kalyanaraman's earlier 'decipherment' claims is also dismissed quickly in Possehl's book, on pp. 150-1. One of Kalyanaraman's most recent claims in print is that he has found a "Rosetta Stone" that enables that decipherment. For Kalyanaraman's announced discovery of an Indus "Rosetta Stone", see his announcement in one of the Hindutva lists last year: sarasvatisindhu/message/301 That message on its own needs no comment. Needless to say, no one has accepted these claims. Obviously, as noted in the Science article, the Farmer, Sproat, and Witzel paper has already gained many adherents among legitimate Indus researchers, including Richard Meadow (co-director of the Harappa Archaeological Research Project), the Indus ethnobiologist Steven Weber, and many others. As the Science story on the Farmer, Sproat, and Witzel paper correctly reports, there is, in fact, a $10,000 award for finding a 'long' Indus inscription -- which none of us ever expects will be collected. We obviously put up the award underline the absurdities of the 130-year-long 'Indus-script' farce. This is what Popper would have called a 'risky' prediction. :^) Due to the many forgeries and hoaxes associated with the story of the so-called script in the last century, note that the original rules for the prize clearly stated that we will only consider candidates for the prize that are first "accepted as legitimate by the consensus of Indus researchers." To quote the original announcement: "Turn up just one Indus inscription that contains at least 50 signs and clear evidence of quasi-random sign duplication of the type found in true scripts, and we will (1) consider our model to be falsified and (2) will award the discoverers $10,000. Ground rules: The inscription must be clearly provenanced from a known Indus archaeological site and be accepted as legitimate by the consensus of Indus researchers before becoming a candidate for the prize. The offer, backed by an anonymous donor, is good throughout Farmer's lifetime." So much nonsense has passed for research on the Indus system, that the Farmer, Sproat, and Witzel paper emphasizes the importance of discussing falsification criteria in any future models of the system as part of a 'script'. See "A Note on Falsifiability" on p. 48 of our paper, posted among other places at: http://www.safarmer.com/fsw2.pdf The evidence in this paper is obviously not going to go away.... Best wishes, Steve Farmer [Moderator's note: please avoid top-posting. Duplicated original message has been deleted here.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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