Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Dear Matt, > Could you be coaxed into elaborating a bit? I am also interested to hear what our pandita colleagues think on the subject of death, life and nirvikalpa-samadhi. Logically and metaphysically,at least from the point of view of asamprajnata-yoga, nirvikalpa-samadhi is a lifeless state, and this understanding is reminiscent in the popular use of the euphemism mahasamadhi. >"Yes, the theory is that complete union with the paraatman is only possible when the mind, psychic instruments, and the senses have all merged into the oneness which is nirvikalpa samadhi. However, it is shown in scriptures such as the Yoga Vasistha that a yogi eventually emerges from this state and functions once again as an individual in a savikalpa-samadhi state, at least when he/she goes about his/her daily activities." There is also evidence from Buddhist accounts of samapatti that having reached the eight samapatti, arhats could occasionally return to life to perform their duties, down to shaving and cleansing. But isn't this theexact illustration of Yoga-sutra I.4 (vRttisArUpyam itaratra)? Every coming back from the state of nirvikalpa-samadhi points to the fact that thetranscendental dRSTu is now somewhere else, not in Its own form, and rather conforms to the vRttis, thus nullifying the desired instrumental telos of Yoga which is cittavRttinirodhaH, and failing to reach for the yogaphala itself. Such occasional turn-backs to daily activities are defined also as yogapratipakSatva, counterindicative to Yoga, and have to be fought againstas saMskAra-vyutthanas. Best, Plamen Dear Plamen, It is interesting that Pantanjali defines Yoga as the suppression (nirodhaH) of the waves (vrRtti) of the mind (citta). NirodhaH is a thorn that irritates modern commentators, each translating it a little differently. But why nirodha rather than laya (absorption) or naSTi (destruction) for example? The use of nirodhaH implies that this Yoga is a technique that is used in the realm of the subject and its objects, a way to purify and strengthen the mind, etc. as a prelude to something greater. Having completey absorbed all the psychic instruments into the oneness, including the mind, the ego, and the power of will, how could the thought arise of turning back? It would seem that the yogi would be in the same predicament that the paramaatman was in before the beginning of the cycles of creation. Yet, it is generally agreed that creation has taken place. Similarly, I am arguing that yogis do emerge from nirvikalpa-samadhi and go about their daily lives due to some miracle that may be beyond logical analysis. ---Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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