Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 I repeat the words of Adi Shankara. (I dont have a source to quote, at present) "Buddhism is an atheistic religion. It has no place in India. However it has some good qualities, which can benefit other atheistic peoples elsewhere in the world." Please note that I only repeat what I have read. This is NOT my personal opinion. Adi Shankara apparently defeated many Buddhist scholars from all over India in philosophical debates , and reconverted some back to the Hindu fold. (He took them as his disciples.) Others, he allowed to migrate to other countries to continue to practice their faith, per the above statement. However, how much of this is true is doubtful, since, even if he did defeat Buddhist scholars within India in an attempt to root Buddhism out, how much influence/pressure he could have exerted outside of India, and how practical it would have been even if he could/wanted to, is questionable. Buddhism had already spread beyond India's borders by the time of Adi Shankara, so while Buddhism was thus removed from India, it might have just continued on elsewhere. Thanks Ravindra >"Aslam Rasoolpuri" <aslamrasoolpuri >INDOLOGY >INDOLOGY >[Y-Indology] Budhism was pushed to China > > >Dear sirs > > What were reseans that Budhism was pushed to China and other >countries from India > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Is it not correct that Budhism was pushed out of India with SWORD ,as some analysts say . Ravindra Viswanath <pvravi wrote:I repeat the words of Adi Shankara. (I dont have a source to quote, at present) "Buddhism is an atheistic religion. It has no place in India. However it has some good qualities, which can benefit other atheistic peoples elsewhere in the world." Please note that I only repeat what I have read. This is NOT my personal opinion. Adi Shankara apparently defeated many Buddhist scholars from all over India in philosophical debates , and reconverted some back to the Hindu fold. (He took them as his disciples.) Others, he allowed to migrate to other countries to continue to practice their faith, per the above statement. However, how much of this is true is doubtful, since, even if he did defeat Buddhist scholars within India in an attempt to root Buddhism out, how much influence/pressure he could have exerted outside of India, and how practical it would have been even if he could/wanted to, is questionable. Buddhism had already spread beyond India's borders by the time of Adi Shankara, so while Buddhism was thus removed from India, it might have just continued on elsewhere. Thanks Ravindra >"Aslam Rasoolpuri" <aslamrasoolpuri >INDOLOGY >INDOLOGY >[Y-Indology] Budhism was pushed to China > > >Dear sirs > > What were reseans that Budhism was pushed to China and other >countries from India > Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada INDOLOGY/ INDOLOGY India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 I am not sure what it means "pushed". When Buddhism started spreading in China, it was still flourishing in India. Buddhism spread widely to Afghanistan, central asia, SE asia, sometimes accompanied by other Indian traditions. Buddhism was alredy in decline in many parts of India when Sankaracharya lived (788-820 is the generally accepted date), it it continued to exist long after Sankaracharya. It was quite popular in Kashmir and Bengal in 11-12th century. In several parts of India it continued to survive until 15th century and perhaps even later. I should mention that in some regions not very far from Sankara's birthplace and Sringeri, Jainism has continued to flourish. The Hombuj Jain math, which probably predates Sankaracharya, still exists. In some parts of India, Buddhism never completely disappeared. Indian Buddhism has survived uninterrupted among the Newars of Nepal and Baruas of Bangladesh. The quote attributed to Sankara here does not appear to be an exact quote. The term "atheistic" can be defined differently. It is in some sense a political term. Buddhism certainly has deities, the Buddhas being the major ones. Among all Indian traditions, the Buddhists were the most resposible for development of iconography. The Farsi "But" is derived from "Buddha", because the idols of the Buddha were among the most important once in that region. Yashwant INDOLOGY, "Ravindra Viswanath" <pvravi@h...> wrote: > I repeat the words of Adi Shankara. (I dont have a source to quote, at > present) > > "Buddhism is an atheistic religion. It has no place in India. However it has > some good qualities, which can benefit other atheistic peoples elsewhere in > the world." > > Please note that I only repeat what I have read. This is NOT my personal > opinion. > > Adi Shankara apparently defeated many Buddhist scholars from all over India > in philosophical debates , and reconverted some back to the Hindu fold. (He > took them as his disciples.) Others, he allowed to migrate to other > countries to continue to practice their faith, per the above statement. > > However, how much of this is true is doubtful, since, even if he did defeat > Buddhist scholars within India in an attempt to root Buddhism out, how much > influence/pressure he could have exerted outside of India, and how practical > it would have been even if he could/wanted to, is questionable. > > Buddhism had already spread beyond India's borders by the time of Adi > Shankara, so while Buddhism was thus removed from India, it might have just > continued on elsewhere. > > Thanks > Ravindra > > > >"Aslam Rasoolpuri" <aslamrasoolpuri> > >INDOLOGY > >INDOLOGY > >[Y-Indology] Budhism was pushed to China > > > > > >Dear sirs > > > > What were reseans that Budhism was pushed to China and other > >countries from India > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 I, personally, have read no academic articles about this, atleast dating Shankara's time which is credited with the demise of Buddhism in India. However, here's a link to some work about atleast one instance of violence against Buddhism: http://sarvadharma.org/Museum/Articles/nalanda.htm IF Nalanda survived so late in the day, I see no logical conclusion for organized 'sword against Buddhism' much earlier. Remember Nalanda was the University where Buddhist philosophy was taught - pretty much the centre of Buddhism. Whenever there were attempts to root out Hinduism (Islamic, Sufi, Christian, etc) the Brahmanas and temples were targetted. If there had been an attempt to forcibly evict Buddhism, Nalanda would have been targetted much before the timeline it really was destroyed. Reading this one also concludes that Buddhism still alive long after Adi Shankara. However, it's back had probably been broken, and survived only in pockets. Regards Ravindra > >Is it not correct that Budhism was pushed out of India with SWORD ,as some >analysts say . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 >The term "atheistic" can be defined differently. It is in some sense >a political term. Buddhism certainly has deities, the Buddhas being >the major ones. Technically, Buddha's philosophy is called atheistic because there is no acceptance of the Supreme Lord, but mainly because that system of philosophy denied the absolute authority of the Vedas. Atheism, here, does not mean that the philosophy never permitted worship or it was anything similar to Communism. Regards, Ravindra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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