Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 The dazAvatAra scheme certainly originated much earlier than kSemendra's date, although of course epico-puranic occurrences may not be *datable* in strict terms. Apart from literary texts, however, a Pallava inscription dated in the late VII cent. contains a list identical to the canonic one except for replacing kRSNa with [bala] rAma. A lists of ten occurring in the vulgate text of Mbh XII, 339, 103-4 (rejected from the CE) enumerates haMsa, kUrma, matsya, varAha, narasiMha, vAmana, rAma [bhArgava], rAma dAzarathi, sAtvata and kalki (i.e., leaving out the buddha as 9th and anteponing haMsa). Harivamza I, 31 (CE) enumerates (though not in compact form) ten prAdurbhAvas, somewhat different from the later canonic list: puSkara, varAha, narasiMha, vAmana, dattAtreya, rAma jAmadagnya, rAma dAzarathi, kRSNa, vyAsa and kalki. Another list of ten occurring in the vAyu, brahmANDa and matsya (and ascribed by Kirfel to the "core purANa") diverges even more: vainya [= pRthu], narasiMha, vAmana, dattAtreya, mAndhAtR, the two rAmas, vedavyAsa, kRSNa and kalki. The classical dazavatAra list first occurs in purANas usually regarded as later, such as the padma (uttarakhaNDa), agni, varAha and narasiMha. One may conclude from the above that although the general conception of ten "outstanding" descents (out of myriads: prAdurbhAvasahasrAni samAtItAni anekazaH / bhUyaz caiva bhaviSyanti yeSAM saMkhyA na vidyate) appears to be quite ancient, no common agreement concerning its composition was reached until at least the VII/VIII cent. AD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 vsnu avatars r often compared to evolution of life or the growth of foetus. But it is interesting to note that the following text compares it with the stages in life, from conception to death: The title is _Vimalaprabhaa.tiikaa of Kalki S'rii Pu.n.dariika_, Vol. 1, edited by Jagannatha Upadhyaya and published by the Central Institute of Higher Tibetan Studies in Sarnath, Varanasi, U.P. in 1986. It is available from Indian Books Centre, Delhi. (courtesy: sri John newman) kishore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 > vsnu avatars r often compared to evolution of life or the growth of foetus. < I would be interested to know in which other texts such comparisons are made. During my student years I once had to write a term paper on the dazAvatAra in which I advanced a similar theory, i.e. the ten avatAras of ViSNu linked to different stages of a human life. I was mainly drawn to this conclusion by an illustration of a tibetan medicinal thangka showing the different stages of human embryonic and foetal development. On such thangkas three different stages of the foetus (those of the 9th, 16th-17th and 31st-35th week) are highlighted by drawings of a fish, tortoise and boar as the foetus in some way resembles these animals during these stages, which are named accordingly. I don't know whether these three stages are already mentioned in the tibetan medicinal text rGyud-bZhi (i.e. amRtASTAGgahRdayopadezatantra) or only in some commentary. Does anybody know of any occurrence of these stages in any extant ayurvedic text? By the way, Mr. John Newman, could you please give those 4 verses of the KAlacakratantra, which you mentioned in your posting on 25th May? Many regards, Thomas Kintaert INDOLOGY, "kishore mohan" <kishore_future> wrote: > vsnu avatars r often compared to evolution of life or the growth of > foetus. But it is interesting to note that the following text compares > it with the stages in life, from conception to death: > > The title is _Vimalaprabhaa.tiikaa of Kalki S'rii Pu.n.dariika_, Vol. > 1, edited by Jagannatha Upadhyaya and published by the Central > Institute of Higher Tibetan Studies in Sarnath, Varanasi, U.P. in > 1986. It is available from Indian Books Centre, Delhi. > > (courtesy: sri John newman) > > kishore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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