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Allen W Thrasher

 

> the indigenous Romano-British population (who were dark-haired) were

> exterminated or driven out, whereas those counties conquered after the

> conversion of the Saxons are mixed in appearance, indicating less harsh

> methods.

But some rural areas of England seem to have a very static population.

There is the BBC series "Meet the Ancestors". I think it was the first

episode which featured the reconstruction of the face of somebody who lived

around Cheddar several thousand years ago, using the man's skull. When it

was finished and unveiled in the village hall at the need of the programme,

there were murmurs of recognition -- "Ah, it looks just look old John down

the road !". I believe that the genetic evidence corroborates this

demographic stability in many areas away from the east and south-east.

 

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Stephen Hodge

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Hello Steve,

 

I think that Allen's point is that this example confirms that linguistic

migration can occur in the absence of massive ethnic migration. I agree

with him. And I think that Ganesan initiated this thread in order to make

this very point.

 

Am I right, Ganesan?

 

George Thompson

 

 

Stephen Hodge [s.hodge]

Monday, March 29, 2004 8:26 PM

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Re: [Y-Indology] Saxon migration

 

 

Allen W Thrasher

 

> the indigenous Romano-British population (who were dark-haired) were

> exterminated or driven out, whereas those counties conquered after the

> conversion of the Saxons are mixed in appearance, indicating less harsh

> methods.

But some rural areas of England seem to have a very static population.

There is the BBC series "Meet the Ancestors". I think it was the first

episode which featured the reconstruction of the face of somebody who lived

around Cheddar several thousand years ago, using the man's skull. When it

was finished and unveiled in the village hall at the need of the programme,

there were murmurs of recognition -- "Ah, it looks just look old John down

the road !". I believe that the genetic evidence corroborates this

demographic stability in many areas away from the east and south-east.

 

Best wishes,

Stephen Hodge

 

 

 

 

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Good point. I looked again at the article on Saxons and noted the

remains were from Yorkshire, not one of the *sex counties. Was that one

of the relatively static areas, do you think? Was Yorkshire protected

because the sea between it and the Continent is wider than in the South?

 

 

Allen Thrasher

 

 

 

>>> s.hodge 3/29/2004 8:26:06 PM >>>

Allen W Thrasher

 

> the indigenous Romano-British population (who were dark-haired) were

> exterminated or driven out, whereas those counties conquered after

the

> conversion of the Saxons are mixed in appearance, indicating less

harsh

> methods.

But some rural areas of England seem to have a very static population.

There is the BBC series "Meet the Ancestors". I think it was the

first

episode which featured the reconstruction of the face of somebody who

lived

around Cheddar several thousand years ago, using the man's skull. When

it

was finished and unveiled in the village hall at the need of the

programme,

there were murmurs of recognition -- "Ah, it looks just look old John

down

the road !". I believe that the genetic evidence corroborates this

demographic stability in many areas away from the east and south-east.

 

Best wishes,

Stephen Hodge

 

 

 

 

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Take the case of present-day Haiti. Yes, we really should take a look, at

the atrocities at least!

 

Compare linguistic migration with ethnic migration there.

 

Isn't the point obvious?

 

George Thompson

 

 

 

 

George Thompson [gthomgt]

Monday, March 29, 2004 9:17 PM

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RE: [Y-Indology] Saxon migration

 

 

Hello Steve,

 

I think that Allen's point is that this example confirms that linguistic

migration can occur in the absence of massive ethnic migration. I agree

with him. And I think that Ganesan initiated this thread in order to make

this very point.

 

Am I right, Ganesan?

 

George Thompson

 

 

Stephen Hodge [s.hodge]

Monday, March 29, 2004 8:26 PM

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Re: [Y-Indology] Saxon migration

 

 

Allen W Thrasher

 

> the indigenous Romano-British population (who were dark-haired) were

> exterminated or driven out, whereas those counties conquered after the

> conversion of the Saxons are mixed in appearance, indicating less harsh

> methods.

But some rural areas of England seem to have a very static population.

There is the BBC series "Meet the Ancestors". I think it was the first

episode which featured the reconstruction of the face of somebody who lived

around Cheddar several thousand years ago, using the man's skull. When it

was finished and unveiled in the village hall at the need of the programme,

there were murmurs of recognition -- "Ah, it looks just look old John down

the road !". I believe that the genetic evidence corroborates this

demographic stability in many areas away from the east and south-east.

 

Best wishes,

Stephen Hodge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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INDOLOGY, "Stephen Hodge" <s.hodge@p...>

wrote:

 

> There is the BBC series "Meet the Ancestors". I think it was

the first episode which featured the reconstruction of the face of

somebody who lived around Cheddar several thousand years ago, using

the man's skull. When it was finished and unveiled in the village

hall at the need of the programme, there were murmurs of

recognition -- "Ah, it looks just look old John down

> the road !". I believe that the genetic evidence corroborates this

> demographic stability in many areas away from the east and south-

east.

 

There were other experiments in and around Cheddar that also

indicate that the population of that area is quite static. I remeber

watching not long ago a documentary about a group of scientists who

collected blood samples from highschool students of that area in

order to check if the genetic code from some very ancient remains of

a man found inside Cheddar Cavern would be similar to theirs. The

odd thing was that, just in order to have an even number of samples,

one of the teachers agreed to provide some of his blood as well. It

turned out that HIS genetic sequence (if I'm not wrong) were almost

identical to the man in the cave!

 

Claudio Quintino

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