Romanized names of the Chinese Pilgrims [ was : [Y-Indology] Devadatta & Prior Buddhas ]

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> Yashwant Malaiya wrote:

> > Surprizingly when Fa Hien was in India in 5th cent CE, there was

 

"Stephen Hodge" <s.hodge wrote :

 

>

> As an aside, pls note that Fa-xian (or Fa-hsien) is the correct

>orthography for the Chinese pilgrim's name -- what you have

>given is based on an old defunct French romanization system.

>Similarly, for the later great Chinese pilgrim, Xuan-zang is

>preferable to Yuan-chwang and all the other peculiar

> romanizations one often sees in works published in India.

>

 

As per the Romanization system adopted by the Chinese, the correct

orthography for the pilgrims mentioned above are as follows:

 

(1) Fa Xian

(2) Yuan Chuang

 

The part "Hsien" in "Fa-Hsien" is not used by the Chinese. Similarly

"Xuan" does not find place in the Table of the Romanization system used by

the Chinese. The "u" in "Yuan" is pronounced like u_umlaut of German, or

like the "u" of French. The "Ch" of "Chuang" is not pronounced like "ch" as

in "chair" in English, but something like the second varNa of the ca-varga

in the devanAgarii.

 

Regards.

 

Narayan Prasad

 

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"Stephen Hodge" <s.hodge

<INDOLOGY>

Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:52 AM

Re: [Y-Indology] Devadatta & Prior Buddhas

 

 

> Yashwant Malaiya wrote:

>

> > What happend to Devadatta and his followers?

> There is a detailed article studying Devadatta -- Max Deeg "The Sangha of

> Devadatta: Fiction and History of a Heresy in the Buddhist Tradition"

> (Journal of the International College of Buddhist Studies / Vol II March

> 1999 / pp183-218)

>

> > Surprizingly when Fa Hien was in India in 5th cent CE, there was

> > still a group of monks who were followers of Devadatta, and not

> > Siddhartha!

>

> In general, most scholars are dubious about this -- there may have been

> monks who thought they were followers of Devadatta but this does not mean

> that there was an unbroken linage going back to him.

> As an aside, pls note that Fa-xian (or Fa-hsien) is the correct

orthography

> for the Chinese pilgrim's name -- what you have given is based on an old

> defunct French romanization system. Similarly, for the later great

Chinese

> pilgrim, Xuan-zang is preferable to Yuan-chwang and all the other peculiar

> romanizations one often sees in works published in India.

>

> Best wishes,

> Stephen Hodge

 

 

 

 

 

 

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