Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 Dear Sir, Jai Jinendra Irrespective of the origin of the word "lipi", Sanskrit always had a Lipi. Sanskrit has always been a written language. The earliest Sanskrit inscriptions are found in the Brahmi lipi. Manish On Saturday 30 November 2002 22:52, yaksh12000 wrote: > It has been shown that the word "Lipi (script)" came into Sanskrit > language much later, from Old Persian. Some tend to conclude that > Sanskrit might not have had a script till that time. Here we argue > that it need not be the case. In addition, one can even say that IF > there was a script for Sanskrit before word Lipi came into Sanskrit > vocabulary, then that script would have been the earliest one known > to that region. Let us see why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 INDOLOGY, Manish Modi <manish.modi@b...> wrote: > > Irrespective of the origin of the word "lipi", Sanskrit always >had a Lipi. > Sanskrit has always been a written language. > The earliest Sanskrit inscriptions are found in the Brahmi lipi. > > Manish > When does the Persian word "Lipi" gets attested in Sanskrit first? While Nagari seems to be restricted to the class of Brahmins, Kaithi was used in villages, acc. to prof. Sushil. Srivastava, Sushil "Review Article: Christopher King, One Language, Two Scripts," The Annual of Urdu studies, p. 217-228. In pdf format http://www.urdustudies.com/pdf/10/28KingLanguage.pdf Like Marathi Modi script, Kaithi seems to have been popular, and it originated from the Kayasth scribes. p. 225 "However, it is a fact that Kaithi was a popular script in rural north India up to the nineteenth century. It was because of this that Sher Shah Suri accompanied all his Persian declarations with translations in local languages of the areas written out in the Kaithi script. Kaithi was apparently used in matters related to the villages. Literature, however, was composed in the Perso-Arabic script. Most of the mss. that were put togther by the Search Committee set up by the Nagari Paracarini Sabha were found to have been written in the Perso-Arabic script." > On Saturday 30 November 2002 22:52, yaksh12000 wrote: > > It has been shown that the word "Lipi (script)" came into Sanskrit > > language much later, from Old Persian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 INDOLOGY, "naga_ganesan" <naga_ganesan@h...> wrote: > > While Nagari seems to be restricted to the class of Brahmins, > Kaithi was used in villages, acc. to prof. Sushil. > Srivastava, Sushil "Review Article: Christopher King, > One Language, Two Scripts," > The Annual of Urdu studies, p. 217-228. In pdf format > http://www.urdustudies.com/pdf/10/28KingLanguage.pdf Perhaps, in Urdu studies it is politically correct to run down Devanagari script as from a small group of brahmins which was given all India prominence due to British colonial interests. It is better to see Hindi dept. studies to get corrective picture and documents. However, a German Company digitises Indian manuscripts in German universities http://www.e-ternals.com/english/publications/publications11.html It dates the Agrayaneshta : a Book of Mantras manuscript in Devanagari in early 17th C much before the inluence of the British. The Ananga Ranga, by Kalyana Malla. in Devanagari is stated to have been copied from an older manuscript in 1895 in Nepal. A manusript of The Kashmiri Paippalada Recension of the ATHARVAVEDA is on birch bark manuscript. If it had been done during British time, why go for birch bark, why not print it on paper. Prayascitta Prasna of 17th C is in Devanagari script There are other manuscripts in Devanagari made centuries before the British plot to helicopter Devanagari over all other scripts, as alleged in the article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 naga_ganesan wrote: > While Nagari seems to be restricted to the class of Brahmins, > Kaithi was used in villages, acc. to prof. Sushil. > Srivastava, Sushil "Review Article: Christopher King, > One Language, Two Scripts," > The Annual of Urdu studies, p. 217-228. In pdf format > http://www.urdustudies.com/pdf/10/28KingLanguage.pdf Use of writing was never confined to Brahmins. If there is a group associated with writing, it is Kayasthas. I have seen a claim somewhere that the Vedic brahmins preferred to transmit their text orally, and thus were opposed to writing for some time. Thus unlike the Mauryas, Shungas did not leave any inscriptions. There appear to have been numerous variations of Devanagari. I remember having seen piles of business postcards from early 20th century saved at some establishments, I could not read many of them. They were apparently in some 'fast' hand, somewhat similar to Modi. Businessmen apparently were used to these variations. Yashwant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 > Sanskrit has always been a written language. A categorical statement , incorporating always , can either come after a life-time of work or in a moment of rashnesh. Rajesh Kochhar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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