Guest guest Posted December 1, 2002 Report Share Posted December 1, 2002 Sanskrit for ages has been written in the local lipi. For example, in Andhra or Karnataka, in Telugu-Kannada script. In Tamil Nadu, texts were printed in the Grantha script. In inscriptions as well. Saiva aagamas, originally written in Grantha on palm leaf and paper, have been printed in Nagari in recent years. Prof. Sushil Srivastava's article talks about Nagari and Government patronage With the advancement in computer publishing, and switch to Unicode fonts, it should be easier to convert from one script to another. Are there any fonts that Indologists have produced for Grantha characters? The first western grammar about Sanskrit is printed in the Grantha script: Paulinus a S. Bartholomaeo, Dissertation on the Sanskrit language. A reprint of the original Latin text of 1790, together with an introductory article, a complete English translation, and an index of sources by Ludo Rocher. Amsterdam Studies in the Theory and History of Linguistic Science. Series III - Studies in the History of Linguistics. Volume 12. (Amsterdam: John Benjamins B.V., 1977) Grantha character sanksrit capability for representing Vedic accents: http://listserv.liv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9806&L=indology&P=R15183 Venugopalan, K. A primer in Grantha characters St. Peter, Minn: James H. Nye 1983 is available on the net: http://dsal.uchicago.edu/digbooks/dig_toc.html?BOOKID=PK419.V468_1983 A.C. Burnell, G. Buhler's books contain lot of info on Grantha letters. Sankaracharya's Brahmasutrabhashyam in Grantha: http://dsal.uchicago.edu/digbooks/digpager.html?BOOKID=PK419.V468_1983&object=19 Bhagavadgita in Grantha: http://dsal.uchicago.edu/digbooks/digpager.html?BOOKID=PK419.V468_1983&object=18 Eventually, Sanskrit texts could be on the web or in paper with at least three scripts - a) roman with diacriticals, b) grantha and c) nagari. Will Unicode in the future make this easier? N. Ganesan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2002 Report Share Posted December 1, 2002 Can you give reference to Sushil Srivastava's article about Nagari and Government patronage? This is interesting. In Maharashtra, Nagari was used for Sanskrit and Modi was used for Marathi. However, under British patronage of Marathi textbook production, Nagari slowly replaced Modi for Marathi, to the extent that modern Marathi folks can no longer read documents in Modi. Best, Madhav Deshpande INDOLOGY, "naga_ganesan" <naga_ganesan@h...> wrote: > > Sanskrit for ages has been written in the local lipi. For example, > in Andhra or Karnataka, in Telugu-Kannada script. > In Tamil Nadu, texts were printed in the Grantha script. > In inscriptions as well. Saiva aagamas, originally written > in Grantha on palm leaf and paper, have been printed in Nagari > in recent years. Prof. Sushil Srivastava's article talks about Nagari > and Government patronage > > With the advancement in computer publishing, and switch to > Unicode fonts, it should be easier to convert from one script > to another. Are there any fonts that Indologists have produced for > Grantha characters? > > The first western grammar about Sanskrit is printed in the Grantha script: > Paulinus a S. Bartholomaeo, Dissertation on the Sanskrit language. > A reprint of the original Latin text of 1790, together with an > introductory article, a complete English translation, and an > index of sources by Ludo Rocher. Amsterdam Studies in the Theory > and History of Linguistic Science. Series III - Studies in the > History of Linguistics. Volume 12. (Amsterdam: John Benjamins B.V., 1977) > > Grantha character sanksrit capability for representing Vedic accents: > http://listserv.liv.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9806&L=indology&P=R1 5183 > > Venugopalan, K. A primer in Grantha characters St. Peter, Minn: James H. Nye 1983 > is available on the net: > http://dsal.uchicago.edu/digbooks/dig_toc.html?BOOKID=PK419 ..V468_1983 > A.C. Burnell, G. Buhler's books contain lot of info on Grantha letters. > > Sankaracharya's Brahmasutrabhashyam in Grantha: > http://dsal.uchicago.edu/digbooks/digpager.html?BOOKID=PK41 9.V468_1983&object=19 > > Bhagavadgita in Grantha: > http://dsal.uchicago.edu/digbooks/digpager.html?BOOKID=PK41 9.V468_1983&object=18 > > Eventually, Sanskrit texts could be on the web or in paper > with at least three scripts - a) roman with diacriticals, b) grantha and c) nagari. > Will Unicode in the future make this easier? > > N. Ganesan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 >Can you give reference to Sushil Srivastava's article about >Nagari and Government patronage? This is interesting. In >Maharashtra, Nagari was used for Sanskrit and Modi was used >for Marathi. However, under British patronage of Marathi textbook >production, Nagari slowly replaced Modi for Marathi, to the extent >that modern Marathi folks can no longer read documents in >Modi. >Best, >Madhav Deshpande Gave the link to Sushil's review article in pdf format earlier: INDOLOGY/message/2790 Srivastava, Sushil "Review Article: Christopher King, One Language, Two Scripts," Social Scientist 23, no. 263-65 (1995), p. 108-116. In pdf format http://www.urdustudies.com/pdf/10/28KingLanguage.pdf Or, in GIF format (use the -> arrow to go to successive pages), http://dsal.uchicago.edu/books/socialscientist/pager.html?objectid=HN681.S597_26\ 3-65_112.gif Srivastava claims that the British colonialists and Hindu nationalists joined to enforce nagari on many peoples of India. What is the interest from the colonial west in Nagari? Is it a 19th cent. design to remove eventually the Muslim control over India? Dr. Yashwant Mallya mentioned about Prof. Sushil Srivastava's article in the Economic and Political Weekly, Oct. 28, 2000 This may be the Sushil article: http://www.dalitstan.org/journal/hindia/hin000/hind0020.html Rajeev Srinivasan, a native Malayalam speaker, looks at the language and script issue. Rajeev says Sanskrit is better national language than the Urdu/Hindi. http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/sep/13rajeev.htm http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/sep/22rajeev.htm http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/oct/05rajeev.htm Regards, N. Ganesan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 >Can you give reference to Sushil Srivastava's article about >Nagari and Government patronage? This is interesting. In >Maharashtra, Nagari was used for Sanskrit and Modi was used >for Marathi. However, under British patronage of Marathi textbook >production, Nagari slowly replaced Modi for Marathi, to the extent >that modern Marathi folks can no longer read documents in >Modi. Best, Madhav Deshpande Urdu scholars mention the fate of Kaithi script. It resembles that of the Marathi Modi script. Nagari obtained the British & GoI support, but not Kaithi, Modi, ... became endangered scripts. Faruqi, Shamsur Rahman. Early Urdu Literary Culture and History. New Delhi: Oxford University Press, 2001 The first chapter can be read from the web: http://www.columbia.edu/~fp7/srf/early_urdu_ch1.pdf p. 27 "For the vicissitudes of Kaithi in the Nineteenth century, see King, One Language, Two Scripts. Kaithii is now practically unknown, though instances of individual, isolated businessmen using it for writing their accounts can be found till about the first half of this century. It was fairly widespread until late into the nineteenth century in parts of modern Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, and modern Madhya Pradesh. The British policy of promoting the Nagari script apparently killed off the Kaithi." See p. 37 (the concluding page of ch. I) telling about the colonial schemes. Srivastava, Sushil "Review Article: Christopher King, One Language, Two Scripts," The Annual of Urdu studies, p. 217-228. In pdf format http://www.urdustudies.com/pdf/10/28KingLanguage.pdf Nagari's growth and the demise of Kaithi and Persian scripts, pl. read p. 224-226. Hopefully, computers will give the reader a choice of scripts - roman, nagari, grantha, ... Regards, N. Ganesan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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