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Dear All,

 

I have rejoined this group after few months of break.

 

I was going thru the archives and found a question from Smt Mathangi on

significance of Seemantham. But i did not find any reply for the same. My

daughter's seemantham also falls in few months. I would also like to know the

significance of this ritual and explain her. I request the members to share

their knowledge.

 

With Respects,

Vathsala

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Here is a description I found on the net. If I find more info,

I pass it on..

 

 

Seemantham is performed during the period between the fifth and the

eighth months of pregnancy. The specific materials used during this

Samskara, that are for the lady only, are, the quill of a porcupine,

an ear of ripe paddy and some Udumbara leaves.

Manthrams are intended to purify the foetus and to request Brahma,

Agni, Raga (Rika), Vishnu, Soman and Ganga to protect it,

to make the delivery smooth and to make the son intelligent.

The main deity invoked is Raga or Rika, the presiding deity of the

full-moon. The implications of the manthrams are: that the pregnancy

should be fruitful; the child should be endowed with sharp and

penetrating intellect (like the sharp quill of the porcupine). The

child should be beautiful like the full-moon. The gist of the main

mantra is: "I beseech the goddess Raga(Rika). May she make this

ceremony blameless. May my son be endowed with sharp intellect."

In some regions music is added. Also sometimes the ladies are asked

to sing: "Be a mother of heroic sons" thus creating a heroic

atmosphere. The mother fasts and keeps silent after the ceremony

till night time when the stars become visible. At the close of the

ceremony she touches a male calf, symbolizing a son. At the time of

pregnancy this is performed for the health and wealth of baby and

also for normal delivery.

 

The unique aspects are parting of the hair, udagasanti, homam,

valaigappu, and touching a male calf.

 

The most important part is the udagasAnti. After the sactification

of the jalam, the expectant mother is asked to bath in this

sanctified water to remove doshAs.

 

Perhaps the details are slightly different in Sri Vaishnava Yajur

veda sampradayam, but the significane is essentially the same.

 

Adiyen

R.T.V. Varadarajan

 

 

, Vathsala Srinivasan

<vathsala_srinivasan2002> wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> I have rejoined this group after few months of break.

>

> I was going thru the archives and found a question from Smt

Mathangi on significance of Seemantham. But i did not find any reply

for the same. My daughter's seemantham also falls in few months. I

would also like to know the significance of this ritual and explain

her. I request the members to share their knowledge.

>

> With Respects,

> Vathsala

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Pranams to one and all. Adiyen Srivaishnava dasan.

 

Our vedic / smritis prescribe various samskaras for grihasta's.

There are three prenatal samskara's namely, garbhadhana, pumsavana

and simantonnayana (seemantham).

 

Encl write up explains all the three. I am sending you all three as

mostly in present day context, pumsavana and seemantha are done

together. I am very happy that someone wants to know the relevance

of our practices and understand.

 

Not a single word in this is written by me but taken from different

sources.

 

Hope Sri. Sadagopan swamin's efforts will also help us in

understanding it better. What I am encl is only an introduction and

Elder's pls. pardon me for any Errors and omissions.

 

I have posted the file in our group site.

 

Azhwar, Emberumannar and Acharyan thiruvadigale charnam

 

Narasimhan.S

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Sri RAmajayam

SrimathE GopAla DEsikAya Namaha

 

Swamin,

Delightful write-up on the three prenatal

Samskara's. AdiyEn have a Samsayam,

1. Why is the male inheritance glorified in these

SamskAras. AdiyEn can see a partial reason that a

male progeny pursuing Vaidhika Dharma can liberate

several generations before and after....

2. Why are these samskaaras restricted to the first

child alone. AdiyEn can once again see a partial

reason in the fact first delivery is complicated. But

the mantras that benefit the child are still

invaluable, isn't it.

 

Would appreciate responses only from Vaidhikas (ie. no

speculative threads please).

 

AdiyEn Sri RAmAnuja DAsan,

 

Sudarsana DAsOsmi

--- Narasimhan <snarsi wrote:

 

>

> Pranams to one and all. Adiyen Srivaishnava dasan.

>

> Our vedic / smritis prescribe various samskaras for

> grihasta's.

> There are three prenatal samskara's namely,

> garbhadhana, pumsavana

> and simantonnayana (seemantham).

>

> Encl write up explains all the three. I am sending

> you all three as

> mostly in present day context, pumsavana and

> seemantha are done

> together. I am very happy that someone wants to know

> the relevance

> of our practices and understand.

>

> Not a single word in this is written by me but taken

> from different

> sources.

>

> Hope Sri. Sadagopan swamin's efforts will also help

> us in

> understanding it better. What I am encl is only an

> introduction and

> Elder's pls. pardon me for any Errors and omissions.

>

> I have posted the file in our group site.

>

> Azhwar, Emberumannar and Acharyan thiruvadigale

> charnam

>

> Narasimhan.S

>

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Swamin,

 

No gender bias intended. The word used is for gender male and hence i just

wrote that way. Vaidhikas can elaborate further.

 

Sorry for any mistakes / errors / omissions.

 

paranams

 

Narasimhan

 

 

Sudarsan Parthasarathy.S. [sudarsanp]

Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:28 AM

Narasimhan;

Re: Re: Seemantham

 

 

Sri RAmajayam

SrimathE GopAla DEsikAya Namaha

 

Swamin,

Delightful write-up on the three prenatal

Samskara's. AdiyEn have a Samsayam,

1. Why is the male inheritance glorified in these

SamskAras. AdiyEn can see a partial reason that a

male progeny pursuing Vaidhika Dharma can liberate

several generations before and after....

2. Why are these samskaaras restricted to the first

child alone. AdiyEn can once again see a partial

reason in the fact first delivery is complicated. But

the mantras that benefit the child are still

invaluable, isn't it.

 

Would appreciate responses only from Vaidhikas (ie. no

speculative threads please).

 

AdiyEn Sri RAmAnuja DAsan,

 

Sudarsana DAsOsmi

--- Narasimhan <snarsi wrote:

 

>

> Pranams to one and all. Adiyen Srivaishnava dasan.

>

> Our vedic / smritis prescribe various samskaras for

> grihasta's.

> There are three prenatal samskara's namely,

> garbhadhana, pumsavana

> and simantonnayana (seemantham).

>

> Encl write up explains all the three. I am sending

> you all three as

> mostly in present day context, pumsavana and

> seemantha are done

> together. I am very happy that someone wants to know

> the relevance

> of our practices and understand.

>

> Not a single word in this is written by me but taken

> from different

> sources.

>

> Hope Sri. Sadagopan swamin's efforts will also help

> us in

> understanding it better. What I am encl is only an

> introduction and

> Elder's pls. pardon me for any Errors and omissions.

>

> I have posted the file in our group site.

>

> Azhwar, Emberumannar and Acharyan thiruvadigale

> charnam

>

> Narasimhan.S

>

>

>

>

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> Links

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Dear All

 

My seemantham is also nearing and me too had the same

question. why do they have this custom only for the

first child? Someone please throw some light in this

regard.

 

Thanks

 

Radha Rajagopalan

 

--- "Sudarsan Parthasarathy.S." <sudarsanp

wrote:

 

> Sri RAmajayam

> SrimathE GopAla DEsikAya Namaha

>

> Swamin,

> Delightful write-up on the three prenatal

> Samskara's. AdiyEn have a Samsayam,

> 1. Why is the male inheritance glorified in these

> SamskAras. AdiyEn can see a partial reason that a

> male progeny pursuing Vaidhika Dharma can liberate

> several generations before and after....

> 2. Why are these samskaaras restricted to the first

> child alone. AdiyEn can once again see a partial

> reason in the fact first delivery is complicated.

> But

> the mantras that benefit the child are still

> invaluable, isn't it.

>

> Would appreciate responses only from Vaidhikas (ie.

> no

> speculative threads please).

>

> AdiyEn Sri RAmAnuja DAsan,

>

> Sudarsana DAsOsmi

> --- Narasimhan <snarsi wrote:

>

> >

> > Pranams to one and all. Adiyen Srivaishnava dasan.

> >

> > Our vedic / smritis prescribe various samskaras

> for

> > grihasta's.

> > There are three prenatal samskara's namely,

> > garbhadhana, pumsavana

> > and simantonnayana (seemantham).

> >

> > Encl write up explains all the three. I am sending

> > you all three as

> > mostly in present day context, pumsavana and

> > seemantha are done

> > together. I am very happy that someone wants to

> know

> > the relevance

> > of our practices and understand.

> >

> > Not a single word in this is written by me but

> taken

> > from different

> > sources.

> >

> > Hope Sri. Sadagopan swamin's efforts will also

> help

> > us in

> > understanding it better. What I am encl is only an

> > introduction and

> > Elder's pls. pardon me for any Errors and

> omissions.

> >

> > I have posted the file in our group site.

> >

> > Azhwar, Emberumannar and Acharyan thiruvadigale

> > charnam

> >

> > Narasimhan.S

> >

> >

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Dear Swamini:

 

The debate about considering the first ceremony

as Ksetra purification or not should have been the root of

this discrimination.

 

>From the article posted in the Files section, we see

 

In the Mitaksrara on the Yajnavalkya, we find an eliminating

tendency where Vijnanesvara says, "These Pumsavana and Simanta being

Ksetra Samskara should be performed only once."

 

The Ksetra concept won over the Garbha and sishu concepts, I presume.

 

Interestingly, the concepts were debated and written as gruhya sutras

or rule books that we still follow in our religious ceremonies.

 

 

Thank you.

Dasan

R.T.V. Varadarajan

 

, radha rajagopalan

<radha_rajagopalan> wrote:

> Dear All

>

> My seemantham is also nearing and me too had the same

> question. why do they have this custom only for the

> first child? Someone please throw some light in this

> regard.

>

> Thanks

>

> Radha Rajagopalan

>

> --- "Sudarsan Parthasarathy.S." <sudarsanp>

> wrote:

>

> > Sri RAmajayam

> > SrimathE GopAla DEsikAya Namaha

> >

> > Swamin,

> > Delightful write-up on the three prenatal

> > Samskara's. AdiyEn have a Samsayam,

> > 1. Why is the male inheritance glorified in these

> > SamskAras. AdiyEn can see a partial reason that a

> > male progeny pursuing Vaidhika Dharma can liberate

> > several generations before and after....

> > 2. Why are these samskaaras restricted to the first

> > child alone. AdiyEn can once again see a partial

> > reason in the fact first delivery is complicated.

> > But

> > the mantras that benefit the child are still

> > invaluable, isn't it.

> >

> > Would appreciate responses only from Vaidhikas (ie.

> > no

> > speculative threads please).

> >

> > AdiyEn Sri RAmAnuja DAsan,

> >

> > Sudarsana DAsOsmi

> > --- Narasimhan <snarsi@s...> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Pranams to one and all. Adiyen Srivaishnava dasan.

> > >

> > > Our vedic / smritis prescribe various samskaras

> > for

> > > grihasta's.

> > > There are three prenatal samskara's namely,

> > > garbhadhana, pumsavana

> > > and simantonnayana (seemantham).

> > >

> > > Encl write up explains all the three. I am sending

> > > you all three as

> > > mostly in present day context, pumsavana and

> > > seemantha are done

> > > together. I am very happy that someone wants to

> > know

> > > the relevance

> > > of our practices and understand.

> > >

> > > Not a single word in this is written by me but

> > taken

> > > from different

> > > sources.

> > >

> > > Hope Sri. Sadagopan swamin's efforts will also

> > help

> > > us in

> > > understanding it better. What I am encl is only an

> > > introduction and

> > > Elder's pls. pardon me for any Errors and

> > omissions.

> > >

> > > I have posted the file in our group site.

> > >

> > > Azhwar, Emberumannar and Acharyan thiruvadigale

> > > charnam

> > >

> > > Narasimhan.S

> > >

> > >

> > >

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