Guest guest Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 RAMANA GITA CHAPTER 17.On Attainment of Jnana Translation of Prof.K.Swaminathan and Sri Visvanatha Swami Vaidarbha: 9.Once Self-Knowledge, the destroyer of all ignorance, has been gained, will it disappear on account of ignorance sprouting again through attachment ? Bhagavan: 10.Oh light of the Bharadwaja line, once Self-Knowledge , the opposite of ignorance, has been attained, it can never be overcome . End of Chapter 17 _________ALL-NEW Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: RAMANA GITA CHAPTER 17.On Attainment of Jnana Translation of Prof.K.Swaminathan and Sri Visvanatha Swami Vaidarbha: 9.Once Self-Knowledge, the destroyer of all ignorance, has been gained, will it disappear on account of ignorance sprouting again through attachment ? Bhagavan: 10.Oh light of the Bharadwaja line, once Self-Knowledge , the opposite of ignorance, has been attained, it can never be overcome . End of Chapter 17 ======================================================== Ramana Gita [Translation and Commentary by AR Natarajan] Chapter 17 `On Attainment Of Wisdom' V9 Bhagavan continues: Once knowledge which destroys ignorance is attained, will it end by the resprouting of ignorance through attachment? V10 Light of Bharadvaja line, once knowledge which is the opposite of ignorance is attained, it is never lost. Commentary As explained earlier, knowledge has been defined as firm Self abidance as distinct from unsteady wisdom which has been classified as practice only. Also, steady wisdom flows from the destruction of mind, of latent tendencies. Since mental attachments are the cause of externalisation of the mind the question of mind lapsing into ignorance cannot arise. The story of Bhikku Chitta would be worth recalling in this context. This Chitta was the son of an elephant-trainer. He joined the sangha in the hope of enjoying tasty food but discarded the robes when he found out it was not so. The holy sangha, however, left its mark and he returned again, only to leave soon. In like fashion he deserted the sangha a third, fourth, fifth time and also the sixth time. On that occasion the head of the sangha hinted that he would leave again, citing some similies; a cow securely tied up in the byre seems peacable enough, but turned loose it quickly tramples down the green crops – likewise, while the king and army with drums and chariots are camping in the woods nobody can hear the crickets chirping, but after the troops have moved on the crickets can be easily heard again although one might have been quite sure there were none. This story illustrates how slipping away from knowledge is inevitable so long as the mind is not fully merged in the source. When he joined again the seventh time he matured in wisdom and became an `arahat'.* Ramana would refer to Kaivalya Navaneetham and point out that the best repayment to the Guru would be not to slip away from steady abidance in the Self. However, once abidance in the natural state becomes effortless and spontaneous there could be no further question of ignorance overcoming one. All doubts and karma end once fullness of knowledge dawns. Thereafter ego-linked karma and attachments cannot arise. [*Mountain Path 1973 p41] ------------------ Ramana Gita Chapter 17 `On Attainment Of Wisdom' Concluded. [Note: Sanskrit version of Ch17 in Sri Ramana's handwriting is in `Photo' file, `RamanaGita' album] Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya = = = = = = anu ________ALL-NEW Messenger - sooooo many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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