Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 The message 'You are not the doer. In fact, there is no 'you' as a separate entity' is a very powerful one. I find it very strange that it is not well explained & sold to people. It is atrange that NO ONE has succeeded in driving home the message to a significant section of the public. I do not think this happened even in Sri Ramana's times. The advantages are simply enormous: We can go through life without any mental strain. The quality of work performed will be so much better. There will be no wars & conflicts, since there will be no personal motives and agendas. Even when things do not go well, there will be no sadness. etc. etc. If there is one small village where everyone is taught the message from birth and acts accordingly, it would serve as a model village for all others to copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 yes but 'who?' will spread the message? regards mick dillon >"sundar22ca" <sundar22ca >RamanaMaharshi >RamanaMaharshi >[RamanaMaharshi] Lack of effective teaching >Sat, 05 Jun 2004 05:05:02 -0000 > _______________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger RamanaMaharshi User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 "sundar22ca" sundar22ca Mailing-List: list RamanaMaharshi; contact RamanaMaharshi-owner Sat, 05 Jun 2004 05:05:02 -0000 [RamanaMaharshi] Lack of effective teaching The message 'You are not the doer. In fact, there is no 'you' as a separate entity' is a very powerful one. I find it very strange that it is not well explained & sold to people. It is atrange that NO ONE has succeeded in driving home the message to a significant section of the public. I do not think this happened even in Sri Ramana's times. The advantages are simply enormous: We can go through life without any mental strain. The quality of work performed will be so much better. There will be no wars & conflicts, since there will be no personal motives and agendas. Even when things do not go well, there will be no sadness. etc. etc. If there is one small village where everyone is taught the message from birth and acts accordingly, it would serve as a model village for all others to copy. Post message: RamanaMaharshi Subscribe: RamanaMaharshi- Un: RamanaMaharshi List owner: RamanaMaharshi-owner Shortcut URL to this page: http://www./community/RamanaMaharshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 Mick, I guess it should be some one who can explain from experience. Again, he will not be the 'doer'. It would be the Self, effecting it through the body of the entity. sundar RamanaMaharshi, "michael dillon" <michael_dillon_108@m...> wrote: > > yes but 'who?' will spread the message? regards mick dillon > > >"sundar22ca" <sundar22ca> > >RamanaMaharshi > >RamanaMaharshi > >[RamanaMaharshi] Lack of effective teaching > >Sat, 05 Jun 2004 05:05:02 -0000 > > > > _______________ > Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 Hello Sundar, Satheesh kumar here. The more we get established in the Self,the more will be the impact,that we have on the world..And, when even minute things are predetermined(as Bhagavan has said),spreading of the teachings of Bhagavan (who himself is realized),will take place according to His Will..So first we should focus our attention to be stabilized with the Vichara.. Regards,satheesh --- sundar22ca <sundar22ca wrote: > Mick, > I guess it should be some one who can explain from > experience. > Again, he will not be the 'doer'. It would be the > Self, effecting it > through the body of the entity. > sundar > > RamanaMaharshi, "michael > dillon" > <michael_dillon_108@m...> wrote: > > > > yes but 'who?' will spread the message? regards > mick dillon > > > > >"sundar22ca" <sundar22ca> > > >RamanaMaharshi > > >RamanaMaharshi > > >[RamanaMaharshi] Lack of effective > teaching > > >Sat, 05 Jun 2004 05:05:02 -0000 > > > > > > > > _______________ > > Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your > friends > > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger. http://messenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 The message 'You are not the doer. In fact, there is no 'you' as a separate entity' is a very powerful one. I find it very strange that it is not well explained & sold to people. LOL If there is no "you", to whom is it to be sold? It is atrange that NO ONE has succeeded in driving home the message to a significant section of the public. On the contrary. What else is the meaning of Advaita? -Not-Two. I do not think this happened even in Sri Ramana's times. The core of Ramana's teaching is just this. The advantages are simply enormous: We can go through life without any mental strain. The quality of work performed will be so much better. There will be no wars & conflicts, since there will be no personal motives and agendas. Even when things do not go well, there will be no sadness. etc. etc. If there is one small village where everyone is taught the message from birth and acts accordingly, it would serve as a model village for all others to copy. The negation of the sense of personal doership is not a copying of an intellectual premise. Or a transmtting of it from one to the other. It is the cessation of the very sense of the "me", for the "me" is nothing but this very sense of personal doership. With the cessation of the sense of the "me", can the sense of the "you" remain? Without the sense of the "you", can there remain a sense of even the world, let alone someone to be taught this advantageous premise? Ramana was once asked, "Since you are an enlightened being, why don't you just wave your hand and make everybody enlightened?" Ramana's reply is so beautiful, so complete....he replied "When you wake up from a sleep, do you go about searching for the dreamed-up characters, in order to awaken them?" If a teaching is to be taught, then the "to-be-taught" continues to exist for you. And if the "to-be-taught" exists, the "teacher-me" exists. The personal stake exists. And the sleep-dream is not yet over. Love Avril Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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