Guest guest Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 RAMANA GITA CHAPTER 14.JIVAN-MUKTI- Translation of Prof.K.Swaminathan and Sri Visvanatha Swami V.9 Bhagavan: In some cases, owing to ripenimg of Tapas, the Jivanmukta may in time attain intangibility, while the form remains. 10.With further maturity, even disappearance of form [invisibility] ensues. Remaining as Pure Awareness alone, such a Siddha disports himself as he likes . __________ Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: RAMANA GITA CHAPTER 14.JIVAN-MUKTI- Translation of Prof.K.Swaminathan and Sri Visvanatha Swami V.9 Bhagavan: In some cases, owing to ripenimg of Tapas, the Jivanmukta may in time attain intangibility, while the form remains. 10.With further maturity, even disappearance of form [invisibility] ensues. Remaining as Pure Awareness alone, such a Siddha disports himself as he likes . ========================================== Ramana Gita [Translation and Commentary by AR Natarajan] Chapter 14 `Jivan Mukti' V9 In some cases, the one liberated while in the body may in time, due to ripening of penance, even obtain the power of intangibility while the form remains. Commentary Those whose abidance is steady are always performing penance. Why then are the expressions `in time' and `ripening' used? An explanation is being give about a particular power which some liberated ones have. It cannot be because of their difference from other liberated ones for it has been reiterated in the earlier verses that the state of the liberated ones is identical. Why the difference? For this, one could usefully refer to an earlier doubt of Ganapati Muni as to whether the previous desires would be fulfilled even after Self-knowledge.* The answer was that they may be fulfilled but it would not be a matter for elation. For, the liberated view everything neutrally. >From this one could say that the earlier yogic practice with a desire for tangibility might get fulfilled in time and lead to the existence of the power in a liberated one though it would not make any difference to his state. [*Ramana Gita Ch1,v8] V10 Even invisibility might arise. The one endowed with such power sports as he likes as consciousness only. Commentary In the earlier verse the power of being outside the pale of touch is referred to. In this verse the power to remain out of sight is mentioned. One should, however, remember that absence of such powers does not make any difference in the state of the liberated one. ====== anu > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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