Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 CHAPTER 12 ON SAKTI [the main topic in this long chapter] Professor K.Swaminathan and Sri Visvanatha Swami Translation On the nineteenth day, the high-minded Bharadwaja Kapali, great among the learned,questioned Guru Ramana. Kapali: 14.Bhagavan, this activity of Iswara which is the cause of this vast Universe, is it Eternal or not/? Please enlighten me . 15.Bhagavan: Though the Supreme moves because of His own Supreme Sakti, He is in Reality unmoving. Only the Sage can understand this profound mystery . 16.Movement by itself is activity and activity is called Sakti. The Supreme Person through his Sakti created all that we see .. ===== Life is a pure flame,and we live by an invisible Sun within us. __________ Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 RamanaMaharshi, Alan Jacobs <alanadamsjacobs> wrote: CHAPTER 12 ON SAKTI [the main topic in this long chapter] Professor K.Swaminathan and Sri Visvanatha Swami Translation On the nineteenth day, the high-minded Bharadwaja Kapali, great among the learned,questioned Guru Ramana. Kapali: 14.Bhagavan, this activity of Iswara which is the cause of this vast Universe, is it Eternal or not/? Please enlighten me . 15.Bhagavan: Though the Supreme moves because of His own Supreme Sakti, He is in Reality unmoving. Only the Sage can understand this profound mystery . 16.Movement by itself is activity and activity is called Sakti. The Supreme Person through his Sakti created all that we see .. ===== Life is a pure flame,and we live by an invisible Sun within us. ======================================================== Ramana Gita [Translation and Commentary by AR Natarajan] Chapter 12 `On Shakti' V14 Kapali said, Bhagavan, is the activity of God, which is the cause of this vast world, eternal? Please clarify. Commentary ……….The doubt is raised because God is eternal. Can it be said that his activity too is eternal? V15 Though movement is caused by the Supreme's inherent power, actually it is unmoving. This is a secret known only to sages. Commentary In verse twelve Ramana has already explained that in Reality there is no movement. Here he reiterates this proposition and puts a stop to the argument. Movement itself being illusory the whole explanation relating to Iswara and His powers is from the relative point of view. Since doubts would continue to arise, Ramana states that it is a secret known only to sages. Once a person learns to abide in the natural state, the truth would be revealed. V16 Only movement is activity and it is termed `Power'. Everything seen is created by the Supreme person through His own power. Commentary The creator and His power being one the entire creation is the manifestation of his own power since nothing exists outside the one, the Supreme. Everything, stability and movement, can only be aspects of it. Ramana brings out the same idea in his Upadesa Saram where he points out `Is there another consciousness to light Existence? Existence itself is the consciousness from which the `I' arises.'* [*Upadesa Saram verse 22] ====== anu __________ > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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