[The_Green-Room] structure of poetry and question on verse 6

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Om Namo Bhagavathe Sri Ramanaaya

Dear tangai

I also would like to know some of the poetry rules which Bhagavan is using.

Rob will surely enlighten in simple English.

Regarding the Aksharamanamalai verses in question here, I believe that the

original written by Bhagavan has become lost. The book which we are using is

the replica especially prepared by Bhagavan for his personal attendant Swami

Sivananda; it was originally published by the Kanvashrama Trust in

Tiruvannamalai in 1987.

Regarding the "words", I these are actually 'feet' which work along rules

which I do not completely understand, so I also would like to know.

Regarding the lines, I would imagine that Aksharamanamalai is written over

two lines; my guess is that Bhagavan used (made) a wider page in order to be

able to get each verse onto one line, hence the devotee would not have to turn

so many pages. Bhagavan was extremely abstemious in his use of all materials,

and he never wasted anything. An example of this can be seen in the Ashtavakra

Gita which was presented to the Ashram by the Maharajah of Mysore in the

thirties. There was some space on the printed page, and Bhagavan wrote the

entire Gita out on the top of the page in Sanskrit along with the English and

Kanarese (Kannada).

I'm also sending a copy of this mail to the main RM Group, of which David

Godman is a member; David knows much more about this than me, so he may be able

to add or amend what is written here.

 

anbudan...

 

Siva—Siva

 

What I don't understand in the sentence: inritu mannai ...

inritu is mother and annai is also mother?

 

Yes, iin(d)Rataay is a word for mother, meaning the mother who gave you birth;

taay is mother, annai is also mother. In Tamil there are five categories of

mothers, and these were adumbrated in our sister group.

 

iinRidu mannai = iinRidum annai.

It's that rule that a foot cannot start with a vowel (or something); this was

mentioned on The_Deep_Forty in the last post (The forum where the Forty Verses

in under discussion)

 

vunataru larunachala (the l in front of Aruanchala makes it sound very nice)

 

I think you just asked your own wuestion. This is to do with the musicality of

the verses; it echoes what Rob has said that you o have a "natural ear" for

these things; annan has been very deaf in this respect, but believe that by the

Grace of Sri Bhagavan that something about all this is gradually soaking in :-)

 

 

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gabriele ebert

The_Green-Room

Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:28 PM

[The_Green-Room] structure of poetry and question on verse 6

om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya

 

Dear annan,

 

just discovered that each verse contains 7 letters in Bhagavans handwriting.

Is this coorect?

But verse 1 is only in 6 words.

Though I have not looked through all verses to see if it is such like everywhere. .

 

Mahadevan's transcribition is always in 2 lines:

line one containing 4 words

and line two 3 verses ...

Bhagavan writes each verse in 1 line only.

 

Annan and/or Rob - could you please tell something about the poetry-laws which

have been used here?

 

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Bhagavan writes:

vunataru larunachala (the l in front of Aruanchala makes it sound very nice)

That is from Bhagavan's handwriting - sorry if tangai's transcription is not quite correct.

 

mother:

What I don't understand in the sentence: inritu mannai ...

inritu is mother and annai is also mother?

 

Wonderful verse!

If this could be experienced in full messure .....

 

anbudan

tangai

 

 

 

 

 

 

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