Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Dear Jim , with the greatest respect I am wondering why you need to know what others experience > is, without first making the actual exploration yourself, for a while, with persistence.You are > the only one who can find out .There are now approaching 60 books in the Ramana literature > containing various accounts of peoples experiences and they range from frustration to Self > Realisation .All experiences reported are second hand and will always be unique,peculiar to the > individual jiva, and very different .So much depends on our inborn > tendencies,conditioning,previous lives , influences etc.etc.that you are never going to get a > consensus . > > Having said that ,for what it is worth, my practice is Diving Into the Heart [one of the > approaches,not the only one] and my experience is that there has been a reduction in tendencies > which cloud the satvic mind.An opening into the Heart Centre where one can rest from the > chattering mind ,often a complete changee from identification with an emotional state to peace > etc.etc.Continual guidance comes , one goes deeper and deeper .There is the Sat-Guru in the > Heart > which pulls one inwards .What starts with the mind is taken over by the 'no mind' and is beyond > verbal description. > > Does this help you unless you try?There are many experiences , some last, others are > fleeting.Atma > Vichara is for you to attempt if you are seriously interested in Liberation ,rather than relying > on what others may have to say .If you want to learn to swim ,you have to get into the water. > > > This is a tried and tested way for Self realisation attempted by Sadhaks for thousands of years > and goes back as far as the Yoga Vashista .How many witnesses do you need before you start .? > > With every best wish in your efforts in this direction ,yours in His grace,Alan > > > > --- jim37rich <jim37rich wrote: > re: From The Mountain Path: > > > Until there is the I-thought, there will be no other > > > thought. Until other thoughts arise, (asking) "To whom?" > > > (will call forth the reply) "To me". > > > He who pursues this closely, questioning > > > "What is the origin of the I?" > > > and diving inwards reaches the seat of the mind (within) > > > the Heart becomes (there) the sovereign Lord of the Universe. > > > > I would like to read anyone's own actual experience/feelings/etc. > > which follows the question: What is the origin of the I? > > > > > > what happens to you? where do you go? what's it like? how does it > > feel/look/sound/taste/etc.? in your own personal words like "I > > feel/felt..." please state the exact sequence of > > events/feelings/thoughts, etc. that you, personally, > > experience/encounter after the question about your/the I. > > > > thanks, > > > > jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > atma_vichara/ > > > > > > atma_vichara > > > > Your > > > > > > > > ______________________ > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger./download/index.html > > > > Links > > > atma_vichara/ > > > atma_vichara > > Your > > > ______________________ Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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