Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Dear VaishnavAs, Hare Krishna. Dandavat Pranams! Sri PerumbudUr is the Birth place of Our Foremost Spiritual Preceptor Swami RAmAnujar. Every day, several hundreds of pilgrims visit this great place. During festivals, the number burgeons to several thousands. I am a congregational member of the Iskcon temple .By the blessings of Sri RAmAnujar and the VaishnavAs. My devotee friends and I have been performing PrasAda Kainkaryam seva for the BhAgavathas who visit the RAmAnujar temple for the Thirunakshathram celebrations at Sri Perumbudur for the last 10 years. Every year, the festival falls in the month of May and there are many VaishnavA organizations who perform ThadhiyArAthana sevai for the grand 10-day festival. During this festival, several thousands of VaishnavAs visit Sri Perumbudur and especially on the last day, there will be at least 20,000 pilgrims. Sadly, at this place, there are no proper toilet facilities for the visiting pilgrims and it is a great struggle for the women and young children. The piligrims defecate around and near the temple premises. The excreta causes uncleanliness and diseases. Besides the poor hygiene, bad energy is created around the sanctified compound. The government has sanctioned financial assistance for providing proper toilet facilities but the funds are stuck at the subsidiary levels of the government offices. No one can say for sure when this would be released. Even upon a possible release, the amount will not be fully spent and will surely pass through many corrupt hands. The construction will not be of any credible quality and worse still, maintenance standards thereafter will be very low. Our team members are ready to fund this project ..We can raise an amount of 1,00,000 rupees as an initial sum for this important cause which would facilitate the pilgrims. I have calculated the approximate funds required and the range is from about nearly 3,50,000 rupees to 4,00,000 rupees. With this amount, we can build 8 lavatories and 4 bathrooms for the gents and an equal number for the ladies. Sri RAmAnujar Thirunakshathram festival commences on the 3rd of May and goes on until 14th of May 2006. The whole project can be completed in 25 days’ time. We can even procur land from the temple or purchase a small piece of land near the temple .I am ready to give our contributions to Ahobila mutt or VAnamAmalai mutt or ParakAla mutt or Chinna Jeeyar Swami mutt or Kinchitkaram Trust(Sri Velukudhi swami) or any other vaishnava organization that can raise the balance and oversee the construction and maintenance of this project. With the blessings of the Lord and the devotees, I will also try to raise more funds to the best of my capacity. It would be very nice if every VaishnavA member can contribute or support this cause to the best of his/her ability .If need be, I can take care of the maintenance of the toilets and bathrooms by employing the locals with a monthly salary and ensure that the facilities are maintained with the utmost cleanliness. DAsAnu dAsan, ManOrAm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 I would like to mention that in Srivilliputhtur the Rotary club has provided toilet facilities when you come out of the temple and proceed along the street and turn right. Perhaps they can do so in other holy places also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 SrI: Dear Sri Venkatesh Sarangan : Many thanks for your kind offer of help to support this important project in the avathAra Sthalam of Bhagavath RaamAnuja . Sriman Manoram Chaitanyadas of Chennai will be meeting with Sriman Sudarshan of Kuwait/Chennai to work out the details of the project at the end of this week . adiyEn will keep all posted because of the importance of participation in this project and be of service to the many devotees that visit SriperumbhUthur and particularly the helples sladies and children as well as older people . By copy of this note , adiyEn is requesting overseas bhakthAs to be generous with their support of this project . adiyEn will keep you posted on how the assembled funds can be sent to India. The most important issue is close supervision on ground to make sure that all the funds are protected and 100% goes to the project and is supervised until completion . Sri Manoram Chaitanyadas will be undertaking this important task and we can feel safe on that point . He is fully familar with the Indian scene based on his many kaimkaryams as a devoted Sri VaishNavar . Let me highlight the importance of this project in contrast to the other Kaimkaryams at Dhivya dEsams that we have undertaken together (AabharaNa SamarpaNam , NithyArAdhanam support et al) . Few years back , adiyEn with the help of other BhakthAs of Bhagavath RaamAnuja made a samarpaNam of ThridhaNDam for the archaa ThirumEni of Bhagavath RaamAnuja at Sri PerumbhUthur and a SaThAri ( MudaliyANDAn) for Bhagavath RaamAnuja Sannidhi at ThirunArAyaNapuram . Later adiyEn learnt that the ThridhaNDam presented by all of us with devotion joined the many ThridhaNDams that are in the safe boxes there . At ThirunArAyaNapuram , the consecrated SaThAri was considered too big ( TamilnAdu Version: actually the Dimensions of that SaTHAri was the same as the one presented by Dr.M.A.VenkatakrishNan Swamy to Lord ParthasArathy at ThiruvallikkENi). The archakAs preferred to use the smaller SathAri since they were uncomfortable with the big sized SaThAri and left the big SaThAri stay inside Bhagavath RaamAnujA's sannidhi as an aabharAnam without being taken out and used daily . The only samarpaNam that worked out is the presentatation of 2 Silver Vattils for Daily ThiruvArAdhanam for Lord ThirunArAyaNan. Those are being used daily . When we look at all these events , it is comforting to know that sevai for BhagavAn and Bhagavath RaamAnuka inside trhe temple is consistent with the guidance of our AchAryAs . In addition to such Kaimkaryams , it is clear that we have to think of the physical comfort of the throngs of devotees , who visit famous dhivya dEsams like Sri PerumbhUthUr . Physical hygiene and privacy are issues of serious concern . Please support this project to create the toilet facilities at Sri PerumbhUthur and send me a private note about any support that you can give . I will brief you on how to transmit those funds collected from USA and elsewhere to join those assembled by Sriman Sudarshan of Kuwait . Sri Bhagavath RaamAnuja CharaNou SaraNam PrapadhyE , RaamAnuja Daasan , V.Sadagopan P.S : When we think about the great help given by TTD at Thirumala to help the throngs of visitors of every age and fitness , one develops an appreciation for the need to pay attention to such areas of personal hygiene and sanctity . Clearly , They go together . - "Venkatesh Sarangan" <sarangan76 <sgopan Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:24 PM Re: Fw: toilets in sriperumbuttur > SrI: > > Dear Sadagopan swAmin, > > adiyEn will feel blessed if I could participate in > the kaimkaryam of constructing toilets in > SriPerumpudur. I am sure that many bhavathAs will also > be very forthcoming. I humbly request dEvarIr to > kindly let us know the details once they are known. > > dAsan, > Venkatesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Swamin: adiyen vinnappam is that, presenting aabharanams, vessels for daily rituals are due only to the divya desam where it is required and in divya desam(s) where some help is needed. Swamins mail brings little confusion of doing aabharana kaiankaryams to divya desams. Only the poor child is needed and required to look after for its well being. The rich child will be looked after by many. The good example is: son of a king will be looked after by many persons since he is the Prince. Whereas an ordinary persons son has to be looked after only by their parents. Some of divya desams are in backward conditions, where help is needed in any form of kainkaryams. So in some of the divya desams, care and help has to be done by bhagavathAs for its well being and maintenance. If aabharana samarpanams, vessels, vastra samarpanam are done to those desams, its really a great kainkaryam, where HE is looking for bhagavathaas to look after HIM (actually HE is looking after us and care for us!!!). If there is any mistake in adiyens mail, adiyen requests to forgive it... adiyen senthil.b Oppiliappan, "gopan" <sgopan wrote: > > SrI: > > Dear Sri Venkatesh Sarangan : > > Many thanks for your kind offer of help > to support this important project in the avathAra > Sthalam of Bhagavath RaamAnuja . > > Sriman Manoram Chaitanyadas of Chennai will be meeting with > Sriman Sudarshan of Kuwait/Chennai to work out the details of the project > at the end of this week . adiyEn will keep all posted because of > the importance of participation in this project and be of service > to the many devotees that visit SriperumbhUthur and particularly > the helples sladies and children as well as older people . > > By copy of this note , adiyEn is requesting overseas bhakthAs > to be generous with their support of this project . adiyEn will > keep you posted on how the assembled funds can be sent to India. > The most important issue is close supervision on ground to make sure > that all the funds are protected and 100% goes to the project and > is supervised until completion . Sri Manoram Chaitanyadas will be > undertaking this important task and we can feel safe on that point . > He is fully familar with the Indian scene based on his many kaimkaryams > as a devoted Sri VaishNavar . > > Let me highlight the importance of this project in contrast to > the other Kaimkaryams at Dhivya dEsams that we have undertaken > together (AabharaNa SamarpaNam , NithyArAdhanam support et al) . > > > Few years back , adiyEn with the help of other > BhakthAs of Bhagavath RaamAnuja made a samarpaNam > of ThridhaNDam for the archaa ThirumEni of Bhagavath > RaamAnuja at Sri PerumbhUthur and a SaThAri ( MudaliyANDAn) > for Bhagavath RaamAnuja Sannidhi at ThirunArAyaNapuram . > > Later adiyEn learnt that the ThridhaNDam presented by all of > us with devotion joined the many ThridhaNDams that are in > the safe boxes there . At ThirunArAyaNapuram , the consecrated > SaThAri was considered too big ( TamilnAdu Version: actually > the Dimensions of that SaTHAri was the same as the one presented by > Dr.M.A.VenkatakrishNan Swamy to Lord ParthasArathy at ThiruvallikkENi). > The archakAs preferred to use the smaller SathAri since they were > uncomfortable with the big sized SaThAri and left the big SaThAri stay > inside Bhagavath RaamAnujA's sannidhi as an aabharAnam > without being taken out and used daily . > > The only samarpaNam that worked out is the presentatation of > 2 Silver Vattils for Daily ThiruvArAdhanam for Lord ThirunArAyaNan. > Those are being used daily . > > When we look at all these events , it is comforting to know that > sevai for BhagavAn and Bhagavath RaamAnuka inside trhe temple > is consistent with the guidance of our AchAryAs . > > In addition to such Kaimkaryams , it is clear that we have to think > of the physical comfort of the throngs of devotees , who visit > famous dhivya dEsams like Sri PerumbhUthUr . Physical hygiene > and privacy are issues of serious concern . > > Please support this project to create the toilet facilities at > Sri PerumbhUthur and send me a private note about any support > that you can give . I will brief you on how to transmit those funds > collected > from USA and elsewhere to join those assembled by Sriman Sudarshan of > Kuwait . > > Sri Bhagavath RaamAnuja CharaNou SaraNam PrapadhyE , > RaamAnuja Daasan , V.Sadagopan > > P.S : When we think about the great help given by TTD at Thirumala > to help the throngs of visitors of every age and fitness , one develops > an appreciation for the need to pay attention to such areas of personal > hygiene and sanctity . Clearly , They go together . > > - > "Venkatesh Sarangan" <sarangan76 > <sgopan > Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:24 PM > Re: Fw: toilets in sriperumbuttur > > > SrI: > > > > Dear Sadagopan swAmin, > > > > adiyEn will feel blessed if I could participate in > > the kaimkaryam of constructing toilets in > > SriPerumpudur. I am sure that many bhavathAs will also > > be very forthcoming. I humbly request dEvarIr to > > kindly let us know the details once they are known. > > > > dAsan, > > Venkatesh. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Dear swAmin, Why should you assume that the two kinds of 'kainkaryam' are mutually exclusive? One can strive to accomplish both, can't one? Both are equally worthy causes, aren't they? Also, what makes you so sure the Lord will appreciate an offering of "aabharaNams" and "vastrams" from devotees far more than He will accept a toilet-facility to be built at his Abode on earth? In my dictionary, an offering of "aabharaNam" to the Almighty is "bhagavath-kainkaryam". An offering to the Lord that takes the form of a "kainkaryam" to build a toilet-facility for the temple at Perumbudur is "bhaagavatha-kainkaryam". Both are equally pleasing to the Almighty. At least that's what the SriVaishnva faith says, doesn't it? One is no inferior or superior to the other. And in today's conditions prevailing at Sri Perumbudur temple and as well as at many other temples in T.Nadu, I daresay a public lavatory for pilgrims is as necessary and essential as a "mUtthAngi" or "vairAngi" for the Deity. Regards, dAsan, Sudarshan Oppiliappan, "B.Senthil kumar" <b_senthil2002 wrote: > Swamin: > > adiyen vinnappam is that, presenting aabharanams, vessels for daily > rituals are due only to the divya desam where it is required and in > divya desam(s) where some help is needed. > > Swamins mail brings little confusion of doing aabharana kaiankaryams > to divya desams. > > Only the poor child is needed and required to look after for its well > being. The rich child will be looked after by many. The good example > is: son of a king will be looked after by many persons since he is > the Prince. Whereas an ordinary persons son has to be looked after > only by their parents. > > Some of divya desams are in backward conditions, where help is needed > in any form of kainkaryams. So in some of the divya desams, care and > help has to be done by bhagavathAs for its well being and maintenance. > If aabharana samarpanams, vessels, vastra samarpanam are done to those > desams, its really a great kainkaryam, where HE is looking for > bhagavathaas to look after HIM (actually HE is looking after us and > care for us!!!). > > If there is any mistake in adiyens mail, adiyen requests to forgive > it... > > adiyen > senthil.b > > > Oppiliappan, "gopan" <sgopan@> wrote: > > > > SrI: > > > > Dear Sri Venkatesh Sarangan : > > > > Many thanks for your kind offer of help > > to support this important project in the avathAra > > Sthalam of Bhagavath RaamAnuja . > > > > Sriman Manoram Chaitanyadas of Chennai will be meeting with > > Sriman Sudarshan of Kuwait/Chennai to work out the details of the > project > > at the end of this week . adiyEn will keep all posted because of > > the importance of participation in this project and be of service > > to the many devotees that visit SriperumbhUthur and particularly > > the helples sladies and children as well as older people . > > > > By copy of this note , adiyEn is requesting overseas bhakthAs > > to be generous with their support of this project . adiyEn will > > keep you posted on how the assembled funds can be sent to India. > > The most important issue is close supervision on ground to make sure > > that all the funds are protected and 100% goes to the project and > > is supervised until completion . Sri Manoram Chaitanyadas will be > > undertaking this important task and we can feel safe on that point . > > He is fully familar with the Indian scene based on his many kaimkaryams > > as a devoted Sri VaishNavar . > > > > Let me highlight the importance of this project in contrast to > > the other Kaimkaryams at Dhivya dEsams that we have undertaken > > together (AabharaNa SamarpaNam , NithyArAdhanam support et al) . > > > > > > Few years back , adiyEn with the help of other > > BhakthAs of Bhagavath RaamAnuja made a samarpaNam > > of ThridhaNDam for the archaa ThirumEni of Bhagavath > > RaamAnuja at Sri PerumbhUthur and a SaThAri ( MudaliyANDAn) > > for Bhagavath RaamAnuja Sannidhi at ThirunArAyaNapuram . > > > > Later adiyEn learnt that the ThridhaNDam presented by all of > > us with devotion joined the many ThridhaNDams that are in > > the safe boxes there . At ThirunArAyaNapuram , the consecrated > > SaThAri was considered too big ( TamilnAdu Version: actually > > the Dimensions of that SaTHAri was the same as the one presented by > > Dr.M.A.VenkatakrishNan Swamy to Lord ParthasArathy at ThiruvallikkENi). > > The archakAs preferred to use the smaller SathAri since they were > > uncomfortable with the big sized SaThAri and left the big SaThAri stay > > inside Bhagavath RaamAnujA's sannidhi as an aabharAnam > > without being taken out and used daily . > > > > The only samarpaNam that worked out is the presentatation of > > 2 Silver Vattils for Daily ThiruvArAdhanam for Lord ThirunArAyaNan. > > Those are being used daily . > > > > When we look at all these events , it is comforting to know that > > sevai for BhagavAn and Bhagavath RaamAnuka inside trhe temple > > is consistent with the guidance of our AchAryAs . > > > > In addition to such Kaimkaryams , it is clear that we have to think > > of the physical comfort of the throngs of devotees , who visit > > famous dhivya dEsams like Sri PerumbhUthUr . Physical hygiene > > and privacy are issues of serious concern . > > > > Please support this project to create the toilet facilities at > > Sri PerumbhUthur and send me a private note about any support > > that you can give . I will brief you on how to transmit those funds > > collected > > from USA and elsewhere to join those assembled by Sriman Sudarshan of > > Kuwait . > > > > Sri Bhagavath RaamAnuja CharaNou SaraNam PrapadhyE , > > RaamAnuja Daasan , V.Sadagopan > > > > P.S : When we think about the great help given by TTD at Thirumala > > to help the throngs of visitors of every age and fitness , one develops > > an appreciation for the need to pay attention to such areas of personal > > hygiene and sanctity . Clearly , They go together . > > > > - > > "Venkatesh Sarangan" <sarangan76@> > > <sgopan@> > > Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:24 PM > > Re: Fw: toilets in sriperumbuttur > > > > > SrI: > > > > > > Dear Sadagopan swAmin, > > > > > > adiyEn will feel blessed if I could participate in > > > the kaimkaryam of constructing toilets in > > > SriPerumpudur. I am sure that many bhavathAs will also > > > be very forthcoming. I humbly request dEvarIr to > > > kindly let us know the details once they are known. > > > > > > dAsan, > > > Venkatesh. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Dear Swamin: Pranams to you: As swamin said, both kainkaryams are important. Infact, a vaishnavite has to do both bhagavath as well as bhaagavatha kainkaryam. If there is any mistake again adiyen makes humble pranams to bhakthas and bhaagavathaas of HIM. NOT ONLY the toilet facilities has to be done. Now-a-days, most of the pushkarini's of the divya desams are in bad conditions. Most of divyadesams, the nearby peoples makes the theertham (pushkarini) in bad conditions by washing their clothes, excreta around or on the steps of pushkarini, throwing household-wastages either inside or near the pushkarinis. These spoils the punyam of pushkarinis and makes the situation worse to take holy dip. Recently steps has been taken in Parthasarathy temple, Triplicane and they build fence around the pushkarini, and they allow the bhakthaas only during certain time. This similar things has to happen in other divyadesams too. To the fact adiyen felt happy when sees the info. about building lavatory at Sriperumbudur. Infact adiyen is also regular visitor of bhagavath Ramanujar. Definitely by the grace of kArEi karunai muni rAmAnujar, this work would be completed sucessfully. Oppiliappan, "Sudarshan K Madabushi" <mksudarshan2002 wrote: > > > Dear swAmin, > > Why should you assume that the two kinds of 'kainkaryam' are > mutually exclusive? One can strive to accomplish both, can't one? > Both are equally worthy causes, aren't they? > > Also, what makes you so sure the Lord will appreciate an offering > of "aabharaNams" and "vastrams" from devotees far more than He will > accept a toilet-facility to be built at his Abode on earth? In my > dictionary, an offering of "aabharaNam" to the Almighty > is "bhagavath-kainkaryam". An offering to the Lord that takes the > form of a "kainkaryam" to build a toilet-facility for the temple at > Perumbudur is "bhaagavatha-kainkaryam". Both are equally pleasing to > the Almighty. At least that's what the SriVaishnva faith says, > doesn't it? > > One is no inferior or superior to the other. And in today's > conditions prevailing at Sri Perumbudur temple and as well as at > many other temples in T.Nadu, I daresay a public lavatory for > pilgrims is as necessary and essential as a "mUtthAngi" > or "vairAngi" for the Deity. > > Regards, > dAsan, > Sudarshan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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