The non-self also exists in the Self.

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D. : Ribhu Gita speaks of so many objects as unreal, adding at the end that they

are all Brahman and thus real.

M. : Yes. When you see them as so many they are asat, i.e., unreal. Whereas when

you see them as Brahman they are real, deriving their reality from their

substratum, Brahman.

D. : Why then does Upadesa Sara speak of the body, etc., as jada i.e. insentient.

M. : Inasmuch as you say that they are the body, etc., apart from the Self. But

when the Self is found this body, etc., are also found to be in it. Afterwards

no one will ask the question and no one will say that they are insentient.

D. : Viveka is said to be discrimination between the Self and the non-self. What is the non-self?

M. : There is no non-self, in fact. The non-self also exists in the Self. It is

the Self which speaks of the non-self because it has forgotten itself. Having

lost hold of itself, it conceives something as non-self, which is after all

nothing but itself.

Then the discussion between the protagonists of various theories became warm.

(from Talk; 310)