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Jan Sultan

RamanaMaharshi

Thursday, January 10, 2002 7:24 PM

Re: [RamanaMaharshi] Digest Number 443

 

 

At 1/10/2002-02:48 PM RamanaMaharshi wrote:

>My point is that although UG felt nothing, he was transformed anyway. I

>hope it is the same for me. No one wants it more than I do. I will take

>any pain that ensues during the transformation. When I am finished with my

>family obligations I will give up everything and sit is meditation all

>waking hours, except for body maintenance issues.

>Aloha,

>Alton

 

Who wants it? Is it the mind? It is just another mind game isn't it?

 

ISN'T EVERYTHING HERE A MIND GAME? EVEN SEEKING REALIZATION?

 

How come westerners don't undergo these kundalini[?] pains?

 

WHO SAYS THAT WESTERERS DONT

UNDERGO KUNDALINI PAINS. I HAVE A FRIEND NOW THAT HAS HAD KUNDALINI PROBLEMS

AND THERE ARE SITES DEVOTED TO THAT. I THINK IT IS CALLED THE SPIRITUAL

REIMERGENCE NETWORK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HAS A GROUP ALSO.

 

Is it just a

mental expectation which comes true?

Why do we have to suffer to get it?

Your words,

LET SOMEONE SAY THEY DID NOT SUFFER THAT HAS "IT" AND I WILL ASK IF THEY HAVE

A SILENT MIND AND DO NOT PERCEIVE OBEJECTS AND THAT THEY DONT WANT ANYTHIING. IF

I REMEMBER CORRECTLY NISARDADATTA SAID THAT HEADACHES OR PRESSURE IS NATURAL IN

THE QUEST.

 

 

 

>"When I am finished with my family obligations"

perhaps show that you are not ready yet?

 

HEY, I LEFT A WIFE AN SON IN A PREVIOUS LIFE AND NOW I AM PAYING FOR IT WITH

SATURN RIGHT ON MY ASTROCARTOGRAPHY CHART HERE IN HAWAII. SO, DUTY TO ONE'S

FAMILY COMES FIRST. I TOLD MY WIFE THAT IF I SURVIVE HER I WILL NOT EVEN DRIVE A

CAR.

 

Just my two cents.

 

Thanks for the dialogue Jan.

Love,

Alton

 

Love You

Jan

 

ps: Guru love is good but guru worship?

 

 

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