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dear brothers,

being completely foolish, i have a unique problem. i have samagri

for some prayogs lying at home for years now, but i do not know what

to do with it as i do not have the required procedures. if anyone

with old issues can help me i will be grateful.

 

1)sarva karya siddhi yantra, i think moonga mala i think from

bhaoutik sadhana and safalta --what is this for and whats the

procedure. if anyone has any other procedure using sarva karya

siddhi yantra, i will be grateful as then i can send the yantra

where it rightly belongs--in the river.

 

2) mahakaal yantra, some mala -what is this for? whats the

procedure. no clue about any issue.

 

3)kamroopini yantra, ratya ramya safed hakeek mala. from the name it

looks like it is some love beauty sadhana. what is it for? and

should be in an isuue older than 98. no other idea about its usage.

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

also since i read some comment sometime back --dhoomavati siddhi

diwas falls on 19th december this friday.

for the rest. my best wishes to all of you. and i dont think i am

coming back yet.

 

jai gurudev

anu

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if u r using the samagri, sent them to me

my adress is:-

 

Mrs Mohitesswurree Jeeneea

Major Road

Bois Mangue

Plaine des Papayes

Mauririus

 

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, devi_bhagat wrote:

in the river.

>

> 2) mahakaal yantra, some mala -what is this for? whats the

> procedure. no clue about any issue.

>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply>>>>dear gurubehen,

if ur mahakaal samagri has a"mrithunjay

gutika" then this is the procedure

february 2003

"om hlaum hlaum hum hum mahakaalaya phat" with hakeek mala and

mahakaal yantra and mrithyunjay gutika

duration =3 mondays ,101 rosary on each of the three mondays , this

is for victory over death

accomplished by bhishma pitamah

 

 

jai gurudev

soham

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dear mohitesswurree

i dont think it is a good idea to take samagri lying at someone

else's place for so long even if it is unused. i suggest that you

first zero in on why you want to do a sadhana ie for what do you

wish to achieve from it, then decide on one and only one sadhana.

and then according to capacity and time, chant 5, 11 21 rosaries

daily without stop till your job is done. the other alternative is

to take asankalp (water in hand and an oath) and follow the regime

for 21, 32 or 40 days and disperse the samagri in water after that.

 

small prayogs are not for beginners. i have not yet met a single

person who got up and chanted a few mala one fine day and changed

his life drastically. there has to be a regualr regime. it is a new

way of life and that alone will work. we chant guru, chetna and

gayatri daily. apart from that i have a personal regime where this

is followed by 1 mala of a ganapati mantra and then 1 for all 9

planets- brahma muraristripurant...as a mark of respect to them, and

to empty my head of teh astrology i filled it with.

then i worship my ishta (which is subject to change from time to

time:)-but is always form of divine mother.

for a beginner, the first sadhana(s) should involve driving away the

negative energies. they may take the form of tantra badha -

obsessions, possessions, negative planetary influences whatever.

they are usually manifestations of our own negative

tendencies/thoughts/actions cumulated over time. i think this is

very important.

my suggestions are bhuvaneshwari or mahakali or shiva simply aum

namah shivaaya to start or mrtyunjaya. BUT, then you have to find

who appeals to you and what works for you.

 

best wishes

jai gurudev

anu

 

 

In , Kumari J <kumaree1958> wrote:

> dear sister,

> if u r using the samagri, sent them to me

> my adress is:-

>

> Mrs Mohitesswurree Jeeneea

> Major Road

> Bois Mangue

> Plaine des Papayes

> Mauririus

>

> thanks.

>

>

>

>

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dear brother,

i wasnt so interested in victory over death -i dont think i am

dying for atleast the next 50 years! but then maybe i will perform

it as i have the samagri. i was hoping for something which will make

me a master of my own time efficient and productive as a human being-

-a complete opposite to what i am today. thank you very much in

anycase.

we know each other -- don't we? if you/someone else can provide me

with the other two i will be grateful. especially, the kamroopini

one as i am on 6 month beauty mission these days-starting this

minute:)but then, to stick to it i will have to start the mahakal

sadhana first.

 

best wishes and affection,

more some other time

love to all

 

jaigurudev

 

anu

 

 

In , tantrasiddhi wrote:

> , devi_bhagat wrote:

> in the river.

> >

> > 2) mahakaal yantra, some mala -what is this for? whats the

> > procedure. no clue about any issue.

> >

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply>>>>dear gurubehen,

> if ur mahakaal samagri has a"mrithunjay

> gutika" then this is the procedure

> february 2003

> "om hlaum hlaum hum hum mahakaalaya phat" with hakeek mala and

> mahakaal yantra and mrithyunjay gutika

> duration =3 mondays ,101 rosary on each of the three mondays ,

this

> is for victory over death

> accomplished by bhishma pitamah

>

>

> jai gurudev

> soham

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, devi_bhagat wrote:

> ---

>

> dear brother,

> i wasnt so interested in victory over death -i dont think i am

> dying for atleast the next 50 years! but then maybe i will perform

> it as i have the samagri. i was hoping for something which will

make

> me a master of my own time efficient and productive as a human

being-

> -a complete opposite to what i am today. thank you very much in

> anycase.

 

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>r>>>>>>gurudev has explained about this sadhana as"saans

leene se bhi zaroori sadhana" and one becomes successful in every

spheres of life on succesful accomplishment of this sadhana.

 

 

> we know each other -- don't we? if you/someone else can provide me

> with the other two i will be grateful. especially, the kamroopini

> one as i am on 6 month beauty mission these days-starting this

> minute:)but then, to stick to it i will have to start the mahakal

> sadhana first.

 

>>>>>>>>>>>>r>>>>>>no we dont know each other i joined just a year

back to this forum but i know u from all that messages u posted here.

i have magazines of 2001 onwards and i dont think i have the

kaamroopini sadhana.good luck from me for ur mission.

>

> best wishes and affection,

> more some other time

> love to all

 

>>>>>double the best wishes and affection to u

 

 

jaigurudev

soham

>> In , tantrasiddhi wrote:

> > , devi_bhagat wrote:

> > in the river.

> > >

> > > 2) mahakaal yantra, some mala -what is this for? whats the

> > > procedure. no clue about any issue.

> > >

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply>>>>dear gurubehen,

> > if ur mahakaal samagri has a"mrithunjay

> > gutika" then this is the procedure

> > february 2003

> > "om hlaum hlaum hum hum mahakaalaya phat" with hakeek mala and

> > mahakaal yantra and mrithyunjay gutika

> > duration =3 mondays ,101 rosary on each of the three mondays ,

> this

> > is for victory over death

> > accomplished by bhishma pitamah

> >

> >

> > jai gurudev

> > soham

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one shouldn't use someone else's samaagri.

 

Once we get saamagri in our name, our feelings/ thoughts get associated with it.

So they might not turn out be that beneficial for someone else.

 

Such i came to know recently.

 

Jai Gurudev

Kumari J [kumaree1958 (AT) (DOT) co.uk]Sent:

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:30 PMSubject: Re:

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dear sister,

if u r using the samagri, sent them to me

my adress is:-

 

Mrs Mohitesswurree Jeeneea

Major Road

Bois Mangue

Plaine des Papayes

Mauririus

 

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devi_bhagat wrote:

---dear brother,i wasnt so interested in victory over death -i dont think i am

dying for atleast the next 50 years! but then maybe i will perform it as i have

the samagri. i was hoping for something which will make me a master of my own

time efficient and productive as a human being--a complete opposite to what i

am today. thank you very much in anycase. we know each other -- don't we? if

you/someone else can provide me with the other two i will be grateful.

especially, the kamroopini one as i am on 6 month beauty mission these

days-starting this minute:)but then, to stick to it i will have to start the

mahakal sadhana first.best wishes and affection,more some other timelove to

alljaigurudevanuIn , tantrasiddhi wrote:> --- In

,

devi_bhagat wrote:> in the river.> > > > 2) mahakaal yantra, some mala

-what is this for? whats the > > procedure. no clue about any issue.> > >

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply>>>>dear gurubehen,> if ur

mahakaal samagri has a"mrithunjay > gutika" then this is the procedure >

february 2003> "om hlaum hlaum hum hum mahakaalaya phat" with hakeek mala and >

mahakaal yantra and mrithyunjay gutika> duration =3 mondays ,101 rosary on each

of the three mondays , this > is for victory over death > accomplished by

bhishma pitamah > > > jai gurudev> sohamJay Gurudev/

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If u r in the habbit of changing ISHTA which is termed as the father of devotee

than u will be empty-handed at the end of the day. give it a thought.

devi_bhagat wrote:

---dear mohitesswurreei dont think it is a good idea to take samagri lying at

someone else's place for so long even if it is unused. i suggest that you first

zero in on why you want to do a sadhana ie for what do you wish to achieve from

it, then decide on one and only one sadhana. and then according to capacity and

time, chant 5, 11 21 rosaries daily without stop till your job is done. the

other alternative is to take asankalp (water in hand and an oath) and follow

the regime for 21, 32 or 40 days and disperse the samagri in water after

that.small prayogs are not for beginners. i have not yet met a single person

who got up and chanted a few mala one fine day and changed his life

drastically. there has to be a regualr regime. it is a new way of life and that

alone will work. we chant guru, chetna and gayatri daily.

apart from that i have a personal regime where this is followed by 1 mala of a

ganapati mantra and then 1 for all 9 planets- brahma muraristripurant...as a

mark of respect to them, and to empty my head of teh astrology i filled it

with.then i worship my ishta (which is subject to change from time to

time:)-but is always form of divine mother. for a beginner, the first

sadhana(s) should involve driving away the negative energies. they may take the

form of tantra badha -obsessions, possessions, negative planetary influences

whatever. they are usually manifestations of our own negative

tendencies/thoughts/actions cumulated over time. i think this is very

important.my suggestions are bhuvaneshwari or mahakali or shiva simply aum

namah shivaaya to start or mrtyunjaya. BUT, then you have to find who appeals

to you and what works for you.best wishesjai gurudevanuIn

, Kumari J

<kumaree1958> wrote:> dear sister,> if u r using the samagri, sent them to

me> my adress is:-> > Mrs Mohitesswurree Jeeneea> Major Road> Bois Mangue>

Plaine des Papayes> Mauririus> > thanks.> > > >

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If u r in the habbit of changing ISHTA which is termed as the father of devotee

than u will be empty-handed at the end of the day. give it a thought.

devi_bhagat wrote: ---dear mohitesswurreei dont think it is a good

idea to take samagri lying at someone else's place for so long even if it is

unused. i suggest that you first zero in on why you want to do a sadhana ie for

what do you wish to achieve from it, then decide on one and only one sadhana.

and then according to capacity and time, chant 5, 11 21 rosaries daily without

stop till your job is done. the other alternative is to take asankalp (water in

hand and an oath) and follow the regime for 21, 32 or 40 days and disperse the

samagri in water after that.small prayogs are not for beginners. i have not yet

met a single person who got up and chanted a few mala one fine day and changed

his life drastically. there has to be a regualr regime. it is a new way of life

and that alone will work. we chant guru, chetna and gayatri daily.

apart from that i have a personal regime where this is followed by 1 mala of a

ganapati mantra and then 1 for all 9 planets- brahma muraristripurant...as a

mark of respect to them, and to empty my head of teh astrology i filled it

with.then i worship my ishta (which is subject to change from time to

time:)-but is always form of divine mother. for a beginner, the first

sadhana(s) should involve driving away the negative energies. they may take the

form of tantra badha -obsessions, possessions, negative planetary influences

whatever. they are usually manifestations of our own negative

tendencies/thoughts/actions cumulated over time. i think this is very

important.my suggestions are bhuvaneshwari or mahakali or shiva simply aum

namah shivaaya to start or mrtyunjaya. BUT, then you have to find who appeals

to you and what works for you.best wishesjai gurudevanuIn

, Kumari J

<kumaree1958> wrote:> dear sister,> if u r using the samagri, sent them to

me> my adress is:-> > Mrs Mohitesswurree Jeeneea> Major Road> Bois Mangue>

Plaine des Papayes> Mauririus> > thanks.> > > >

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dear dhiraj,

first of all thank u for expressing ur veiw uninihibited

it is not all that impossible and unrealistic.if u are a shishya

nothing is impossible for u.gurudev has said that if u have no darpa

and josh in ur life then what is the use of being my shishya.i just

follow what he says if he has said conquer death(which has various

forms)then i will definately do that if he has said it then how can

it be unrealistic.

 

jai gurudev

soham

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, dhiraj sharma <dhiraj4uonly>

wrote:

>

> Dear Friend what do u think that u can win DEATH???? with some

small prayog or with some samagri??? Be realistic man, it will pay.

Best of luck.

>

>

> devi_bhagat wrote:

> ---

>

> dear brother,

> i wasnt so interested in victory over death -i dont think i am

> dying for atleast the next 50 years! but then maybe i will perform

> it as i have the samagri. i was hoping for something which will

make

> me a master of my own time efficient and productive as a human

being-

> -a complete opposite to what i am today. thank you very much in

> anycase.

> we know each other -- don't we? if you/someone else can provide me

> with the other two i will be grateful. especially, the kamroopini

> one as i am on 6 month beauty mission these days-starting this

> minute:)but then, to stick to it i will have to start the mahakal

> sadhana first.

>

> best wishes and affection,

> more some other time

> love to all

>

> jaigurudev

>

> anu

>

>

> In , tantrasiddhi wrote:

> > , devi_bhagat wrote:

> > in the river.

> > >

> > > 2) mahakaal yantra, some mala -what is this for? whats the

> > > procedure. no clue about any issue.

> > >

> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply>>>>dear gurubehen,

> > if ur mahakaal samagri has a"mrithunjay

> > gutika" then this is the procedure

> > february 2003

> > "om hlaum hlaum hum hum mahakaalaya phat" with hakeek mala and

> > mahakaal yantra and mrithyunjay gutika

> > duration =3 mondays ,101 rosary on each of the three mondays ,

> this

> > is for victory over death

> > accomplished by bhishma pitamah

> >

> >

> > jai gurudev

> > soham

>

>

>

>

> Jay Gurudev

>

 

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if u dont want to perform mahakaal sadhana . its ok. put all sadhana saamagri

either ur pooja sthan or drop in water(river).

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1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya saafalya

2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting successintantra

3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp

if u r intrested i will tell u process.

gaurav shrimali

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sure gaurav,

please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please mention

the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time etc.

 

no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi posted a

procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i will

check which mala i have.

thank you

jai gurudev

anu

--

 

- In , gaurav shrimali

<gaurav_nikhil26> wrote:

> jay gurudev,

> 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya

saafalya

> 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting successintantra

> 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp

> if u r intrested i will tell u process.

> gaurav

shrimali

>

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also gaurav,

if you have any sadhan procedure for

1 improving concentration

and

2 to get rid of laziness

please let me know.

 

 

and just a question out of curiosity. since you have the same last

name as gurudev, are you related to him or is it a coincidence?

anyway, i will be grateful for the procedures.

 

 

jaigurudev

anu- In , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat>

wrote:

> sure gaurav,

> please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please mention

> the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time etc.

>

> no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi posted a

> procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i will

> check which mala i have.

> thank you

> jai gurudev

> anu

> --

>

> - In , gaurav shrimali

> <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote:

> > jay gurudev,

> > 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya

> saafalya

> > 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting successintantra

> > 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp

> > if u r intrested i will tell u process.

> > gaurav

> shrimali

> >

> >

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Funny!!! Now, people need sadhana procedures for getting rid of

laziness. What would be next? Sadhana procedure for eating food,

drinking water and breathing?

 

I am sorry for making fun of it. Get real, brother. God is not going

to do everything for you. You must do something for yourself. If you

are unable to get rid of laziness, you are not allowed to talk about

sadhana procedure.

 

Tantra Shakti

mantra_tantra_yantra

 

, "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat>

wrote:

> --

>

> also gaurav,

> if you have any sadhan procedure for

> 1 improving concentration

> and

> 2 to get rid of laziness

> please let me know.

>

>

> and just a question out of curiosity. since you have the same last

> name as gurudev, are you related to him or is it a coincidence?

> anyway, i will be grateful for the procedures.

>

>

> jaigurudev

> anu- In , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat>

> wrote:

> > sure gaurav,

> > please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please

mention

> > the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time

etc.

> >

> > no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi posted

a

> > procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i will

> > check which mala i have.

> > thank you

> > jai gurudev

> > anu

> > --

> >

> > - In , gaurav shrimali

> > <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote:

> > > jay gurudev,

> > > 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya

> > saafalya

> > > 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting

successintantra

> > > 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp

> > > if u r intrested i will tell u process.

> > > gaurav

> > shrimali

> > >

> > >

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Thank you very much for your comments. I am honored that GUrudev

chose to speak to me in your voice when i was making amistake.

thanks again.

 

 

 

jai gurudev

 

anu

In , "tantra_shakti" <tantra_shakti>

wrote:

> Funny!!! Now, people need sadhana procedures for getting rid of

> laziness. What would be next? Sadhana procedure for eating food,

> drinking water and breathing?

>

> I am sorry for making fun of it. Get real, brother. God is not

going

> to do everything for you. You must do something for yourself. If

you

> are unable to get rid of laziness, you are not allowed to talk

about

> sadhana procedure.

>

> Tantra Shakti

> mantra_tantra_yantra

>

> , "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat>

> wrote:

> > --

> >

> > also gaurav,

> > if you have any sadhan procedure for

> > 1 improving concentration

> > and

> > 2 to get rid of laziness

> > please let me know.

> >

> >

> > and just a question out of curiosity. since you have the same

last

> > name as gurudev, are you related to him or is it a coincidence?

> > anyway, i will be grateful for the procedures.

> >

> >

> > jaigurudev

> > anu- In , "devi_bhagat"

<devi_bhagat>

> > wrote:

> > > sure gaurav,

> > > please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please

> mention

> > > the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time

> etc.

> > >

> > > no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi

posted

> a

> > > procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i

will

> > > check which mala i have.

> > > thank you

> > > jai gurudev

> > > anu

> > > --

> > >

> > > - In , gaurav shrimali

> > > <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote:

> > > > jay gurudev,

> > > > 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for

kaarya

> > > saafalya

> > > > 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting

> successintantra

> > > > 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp

> > > > if u r intrested i will tell u process.

> > > > gaurav

> > > shrimali

> > > >

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Gaurav,

 

I will specify again, that it is a pleasure that you are chosing to

give us sadhana procedures, we otherwise would not have got. But,

its just that only Gurudev can give sadhanas and mantras. Even in

Gurudham except people like shahtri ji nobody is qualified to give

sadhans and mantras and shatry ji does this by contacting Gurudev by

telepathy. I myself can vouch on the power of the sadhans given

through him. That is why here we always mention the source i.e. the

exact issue of MTY or say the sadhana shivir in which the mantra,

sadhana procedure was given to us.

 

You mentioned somewhere that you need Gurudev's permission before

revealing some sadhana. I asume by this statement that you are close

to him. It may either be becuase you are related to him -- a wild

guess because of your last name, or are an accomplished sadhak who

can contact Gurudev anytime. I myself met such a sadhak who spoke to

Gurudev every morning.

 

You are doing all of us a favor and a service to Gurudev we are

grateful for that. It will be nice to understand the source -thats

all.

It is totally up to you whether or not you wish to answer this. If

not then, it is totally upto the people here whether they chose to

practice what is given without quoting the excat source. I thank you

wholeheartedly in advance if i forget to do that later -for the

sadhanas you will so kindly type for me.

good wishes, and may the common chord that binds us be stronger

than the demons inside us in every form.

 

jai gurudev

 

anu

 

 

 

> > and just a question out of curiosity. since you have the same

last

> > name as gurudev, are you related to him or is it a coincidence?

> > anyway, i will be grateful for the procedures.

> >

> >

> > jaigurudev

> > anu- In , "devi_bhagat"

<devi_bhagat>

> > wrote:

> > > sure gaurav,

> > > please do. i will be grateful. also just to be sure please

> mention

> > > the rosary type. cloth colour, direction auspicious day, time

> etc.

> > >

> > > no, i have nothing against mahakaal sadhana. tantrasiddhi

posted

> a

> > > procedure too. but if you too know of one let me know and i

will

> > > check which mala i have.

> > > thank you

> > > jai gurudev

> > > anu

> > > --

> > >

> > > - In , gaurav shrimali

> > > <gaurav_nikhil26> wrote:

> > > > jay gurudev,

> > > > 1. sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for

kaarya

> > > saafalya

> > > > 2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting

> successintantra

> > > > 3. kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp

> > > > if u r intrested i will tell u process.

> > > > gaurav

> > > shrimali

> > > >

> > > >

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Very Funny!!!

If that man has the will to combat the laziness and is asking for help in that

field then i think HE IS ALLOWED to talk sadhna procedure.

 

It is a very easy thing to make fun of people and indeed some of our group

members are experts in that. If you cannot help anybody then better not pose

like an obstacle for a sain discussion.

 

Now who invented the rule about who is allowed to talk about sadhna and who not?

Tantra Shakti probably!

 

Another thing

"God is not going to do everything for you"

well this statement is not justified as God is doing everything for us and will

do everything for us always.

 

Now, there are so many mantra and tantra, some of them given by Lord Shiva and

others practiced and tested by our greta ancient sages. These mantras are used

in petty matters as well as very complicated issues. If laziness is a problem

then there is a solution.

 

Get real brother, don't make fun, if you know too much and think it must be kept

for yourself then you are most welcomed!

 

regards,

Prakash

-

tantra_shakti

 

Monday, December 22, 2003 9:56 PM

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Funny!!! Now, people need sadhana procedures for getting rid of laziness. What

would be next? Sadhana procedure for eating food, drinking water and

breathing?I am sorry for making fun of it. Get real, brother. God is not going

to do everything for you. You must do something for yourself. If you are unable

to get rid of laziness, you are not allowed to talk about sadhana

procedure.Tantra Shaktimantra_tantra_yantra--- In

, "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> wrote:> --> > also

gaurav,> if you have any sadhan procedure for > 1 improving concentration > and

> 2 to get rid of laziness> please let me know.> > > and just a question out of

curiosity. since you have the same last > name as gurudev, are you related to

him or is it a coincidence?> anyway, i will be grateful for the procedures.> >

> jaigurudev> anu- In , "devi_bhagat"

<devi_bhagat> > wrote:> > sure gaurav,> > please do. i will be grateful.

also just to be sure please mention > > the rosary type. cloth colour,

direction auspicious day, time etc.> > > > no, i have nothing against mahakaal

sadhana. tantrasiddhi posted a > > procedure too. but if you too know of one

let me know and i will > > check which mala i have.> > thank you > > jai

gurudev> > anu> > --> > > > - In , gaurav shrimali > >

<gaurav_nikhil26> wrote:> > > jay gurudev,> > > 1.

sarvkaaryasiddhi yantra,mala- for kaarya > > saafalya > > >

2.mahakaal yantra ,mala- for getting successintantra> > > 3.

kaamroopini yantra,mala- forkaayaakalp> > > if u r intrested i

will tell u process.> > >

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> If that man has the will to combat the

> laziness and is asking for help in that

> field then i think HE IS ALLOWED to talk

> sadhna procedure.

 

Will power is everything. Without will power, you can't properly do

you routine works let alone doing sadhanas. If that person had the

will to combat laziness, he/she would not be asking for sadhanas to

get rid of it. I was trying to explain to him/her that you can't

expect mantras/god/gurudev to do everything for you. Sure, I made

fun of him/her; but, apologized at the same time. Maybe, you forgot

to read and understand the whole message.

 

> It is a very easy thing to make fun of people

> and indeed some of our group members are

> experts in that. If you cannot help anybody

> then better not pose like an obstacle for

> a sain discussion.

 

I am extremely sorry for that.

 

> Now who invented the rule about who is allowed

> to talk about sadhna and who not? Tantra Shakti

> probably!

 

I am sorry again.

 

> Another thing "God is not going to do everything

> for you" well this statement is not justified as

> God is doing everything for us and will do

> everything for us always.

 

Certainly, you are not a disciple of Nikhileshwaranand otherwise you

would never have said that. But, if you are, it's a pity that you

failed to understand the teachings of our guru.

 

Once again, God is not going to do everything for you.

 

> These mantras are used in petty matters as

> well as very complicated issues. If laziness

> is a problem then there is a solution.

 

Then please, share the solution with us. There must also be mantras

for not making fun of people and not pose like an obstacle for a

sain discussion and getting evrything from god/guru without doing

anything. I am sure, you have those mantras and I would be delighted

to have them. Please, be kind and share them with this group.

 

> if you know too much and think it must be kept

> for yourself then you are most welcomed!

 

I wish, I knew a little bit about becoming one with my Guru. I would

be wasting my time in this filthy body and in this mortal world.

Maybe, you could give me a good sadhana procedure to become one with

my Guru in a second. In that case, I'll worship you a just as I

worship my Guru.

 

Thanks for you kind words and sorry once again.

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Will power is everything, yes it is. That person had the will to ask (not just

sit there and wait to get rid of laziness). He knows that he has a problem of

laziness, he is looking for a solution to that. you reply was not a solution!

 

well sadhnas and mantras are better given by a Guru and as you already have a

Guru then you must ask your Guru who will surely help you.

 

Isnt it funny, that you can hurt someone and immediately say you are sorry! If

you knew that your words will be followed by "sorry" then it surely means you

are trying to make fun and hurt someone deliberately. You are a disciple of

Guru Nikhileshwaranand, it is a good thing, but that does not give you the

license to make fun of anyone! I don't think Gurudev would agree with your

insulting and fun making attitudes.

 

I wish to point out that your "funny" replies will deter people to ask for a

solution to their problems in the future. You are aspiring to become one with

the Guru, your asipration is of high standard, but first try to understand

people and their problems and then if you think you can help mankind, do it.

the one who think about himself and his own aspiration all the time, is not

doing any good for mankind. Help mankind first and then if you have some time

remaining then help yourself.

 

If you maintain that God is not going to do everything for us, then i wish to

point out that up to now, everything that i did and achieved is due to the

grace of God. He is doing everything for me and i am very much grateful to Him.

God does everything. If YOU think YOU are doing what YOU are doing then YOU and

your attituides/replies are of the same standard which need an uplifting. Talk

to Gurudev about it!

 

 

A simple mantra for not making fun of others is "to start making fun of

yourself" and using the mirror to see what your problems are, before making

comments on others. Every piece of your replies are insulting, why don't you

make a print out and have someone (maybe your Guru) give their independent

opinion on what you wrote.

 

Mr tantra shakti, you seems to have a problem, ask the Gurudev to show you the

right path. There are some people who admit they have a problem while there are

others who do not admit at all. They think they have attain perfection alreaday.

 

Kind regards

and i am not sorry for anything that i have written here!

Prakash

-

tantra_shakti

 

Wednesday, December 24, 2003 11:14 AM

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> If that man has the will to combat the> laziness and is asking for help in

that> field then i think HE IS ALLOWED to talk> sadhna procedure.Will power is

everything. Without will power, you can't properly do you routine works let

alone doing sadhanas. If that person had the will to combat laziness, he/she

would not be asking for sadhanas to get rid of it. I was trying to explain to

him/her that you can't expect mantras/god/gurudev to do everything for you.

Sure, I made fun of him/her; but, apologized at the same time. Maybe, you

forgot to read and understand the whole message.> It is a very easy thing to

make fun of people> and indeed some of our group members are> experts in that.

If you cannot help anybody> then better not pose like an obstacle for> a sain

discussion.I am extremely sorry for that.> Now who invented the rule about who

is allowed> to talk about sadhna and who not? Tantra Shakti> probably!I am

sorry again.> Another thing "God is not going to do everything> for you" well

this statement is not justified as> God is doing everything for us and will do>

everything for us always.Certainly, you are not a disciple of Nikhileshwaranand

otherwise you would never have said that. But, if you are, it's a pity that you

failed to understand the teachings of our guru.Once again, God is not going to

do everything for you.> These mantras are used in petty matters as> well as

very complicated issues. If laziness> is a problem then there is a

solution.Then please, share the solution with us. There must also be mantras

for not making fun of people and not pose like an obstacle for a sain

discussion and getting evrything from god/guru without doing anything. I am

sure, you have those mantras and I would be delighted to have them. Please, be

kind and share them with this group.> if you know too much and think it must be

kept> for yourself then you are most welcomed!I wish, I knew a little bit about

becoming one with my Guru. I would be wasting my time in this filthy body and

in this mortal world. Maybe, you could give me a good sadhana procedure to

become one with my Guru in a second. In that case, I'll worship you a just as I

worship my Guru.Thanks for you kind words and sorry once again.Jay Gurudev/

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" jab sadhak yah nishchay kar leta hai ki muze is jivan main

hi poorta praapt kar leni hai aur jis prakar se ek machali bina

paani ke rah hi nahi paati, jis prakar se ek shisya bina guru ke

jivan ki kalpana hi nahi kar pata . aur nirantar is tathya ka

chintan karata hai ki kaise mere ek ek kshann ka upyog

sadhana hatu ho . yah nishchay hi manusya ko devtva se

yukt banaataa hai."

u have to perform chetana mantra sadhana.

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sorry but u can't say it funny. because of laziness can be result of

past sins, tanra prayog or shaap.

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> Isnt it funny, that you can hurt someone and

> immediately say you are sorry!

 

If you could calm down for a second and read my post again, you may

understand what I meant. You may understand what was the motive

behind that fun making.

 

I know devi_bhagat very well. I know for sure that she (yes, she; I

always knew that) is hard working person, a great shishya of Swami

Nikhileshwaranand (no matter whether she admits or not) and my

sister. The name of Swami Nikhileshwaranand is enough to energize

the entire universe still his shishya is looking for a mantra to

loose laziness. So, was I making fun of devi_bhagat or was telling

her not to make fun of her and my Guru? And no, I am not asking for

your judgement.

 

Initial, I thought that you were a high level sadhak; that's why I

wrote a personal, sorry mail to you. Now, i regret that. In the

mantra_tantra group, I wrote you making fun of some pbfsg over some

mantra.

 

I surely made a mistake though unknowingly. I was careless about

choosing my words.

 

I've been in this group right from it's conception and I know, that

real sadhaks like Arvind Sharma and Anurag Goel have taken back

seats. Maybe, it is time for me to follow them. Devi_bhagat has been

trying to tell me just that for a long time. I am sorry devi_bhagat,

I should have listened to you. But, no harm done.

 

> If you knew that your words will be followed

> by "sorry" then it surely means you are trying

> to make fun and hurt someone deliberately.

 

You are free to think what you wish. Is laughing banned here? It has

been done here before and it will be done here again. There is

nothing wrong is laughing and on something that should be laughed

on. Had I known that Mr. Vishwa Dev is going to use my joke against

me because I had kicked him out of my group, then I wouldn't have

done it.

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