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Hi,

 

This is Ravindranath. I am a regular reader of this discussion

forum, even though I don't participate or involve any discussions. I

have been doing dhumavati saadhana for almost 2 months as advised by

Gurudevs (for riddance from evil spiritis tormenting my sister). In

a couple of days the deeksha is going to end.

 

Can anyone tell me if there is any special ritual to do on the last

day like homa etc. My sincere thanks to birendra_m ( i don't know if

this birendra_m is the same person (birendra_m_singh) who spoke to me

some 3 months ago over telephone). I also would like to know when

the results may be shown. The going is very very tough for me, to

see my sister daily in a chaotic condition. Untill now she is only

getting indications that everything will be ok. Perhaps a little of

effect is also there (a few of the spirits have left it seems, but

the remaining one [or two] are very tough. They cause breating

trouble to her constantly almost 24 hrs, and she keeps hitting

herself over the neck and back saying that it will hit that entity

which is constantly hovering over her). I had put in a lot of effort

and also indebted to a noble person here in Bangalore, who got done

lot of background work like chanting of mantras by a group of people

for a specific num of days.

 

But, I am most worried and eager to see the final clearance.

 

Can anyone who has performed this saadhana tell me more info.

 

regards...

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, "rv_nath" <rv_nath> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> This is Ravindranath. I am a regular reader of this discussion

> forum, even though I don't participate or involve any discussions.

I

> have been doing dhumavati saadhana for almost 2 months as advised

by

> Gurudevs (for riddance from evil spiritis tormenting my sister).

In

> a couple of days the deeksha is going to end.

 

 

 

 

raghu,

there is no such thing as a deeksha ending. i assume your required

chant is ending. but why do you stop now when the problem is not yet

completely solved? why not do it till your sister is perfectly OK?

>

> Can anyone tell me if there is any special ritual to do on the last

> day like homa etc.

 

it depends entirely on you. there is book in hindi called yagya vidhan

if you can perform homa- by all means perform it give ahuti of both

guru and dhoomavatii mantra

but if you cannot i suggest taking some water in your palm and taking

a sankalpa for havan poorna ahuti, then chant 10 percent of the total

chant you performed in the past 2 months. 25 percent is even better

end it by making your sister make some donations in the name of

divine mother. brahmin / kanya bhojan can also be performed.

 

My sincere thanks to birendra_m ( i don't know if

> this birendra_m is the same person (birendra_m_singh) who spoke to

me

> some 3 months ago over telephone).

 

 

yes he is the same. he is kind and helpful and will be happy to see

your problem solved.

 

I also would like to know when

> the results may be shown.

 

raghu,

i really apreciate the task and challenge you have taken.

i have discused this result business with arun bhaiyya who used to

answer queries. he used to say after the yantra as been dispersed in

water. but this can mean a gap of a few weeks or even during the

time you are chanting depeneding entirely upon the severity of the

problem and the force of your sadhana.

let us say some one performs sadhana for a job or marraige etc in

that case a gap between the end of sadhana and fufilment of task does

not will not really matter. but here it is not something welcome at

all. i would recommend chanting 1 or 5 or 11 malas of dhoomavati at

least daily till you see your sister is 100 percent fine. get her to

do something! if not dhoomavati she can chant guru mantra or gayatri.

see raghu the truth is diseases affect your system only if you alllow

to. so there has to be a constant yearning inside her to be perfectly

OK

doing some small pooja etc is the manifestation of this will. i

understand she is not in a state to perform sadhana. but even

chanting the name of GOD lying in bed or litstening to chants is good

enough

 

The going is very very tough for me, to

> see my sister daily in a chaotic condition.

 

 

GOD bless you. may our guru bless you and may everything be fine

bravo to you.

till now she is only

> getting indications that everything will be ok. Perhaps a little

of

> effect is also there (a few of the spirits have left it seems, but

> the remaining one [or two] are very tough. They cause breating

> trouble to her constantly almost 24 hrs, and she keeps hitting

> herself over the neck and back saying that it will hit that entity

> which is constantly hovering over her). I had put in a lot of

effort

> and also indebted to a noble person here in Bangalore, who got done

> lot of background work like chanting of mantras by a group of

people

> for a specific num of days.

 

 

this is really nice. who is this noble person?

>

> But, I am most worried and eager to see the final clearance.

 

it will come, take heart.

>

GOD bless nad jai gurudev

anu

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Hi anu,

 

Its ravindra not raghu who asked this question. how r

u. did u know anything about kritya. please ask

birendra ji to help me in this regard.

 

raghu

--- anu <devi_bhagat wrote:

> , "rv_nath" <rv_nath>

> wrote:

> > Hi,

> >

> > This is Ravindranath. I am a regular reader of

> this discussion

> > forum, even though I don't participate or involve

> any discussions.

> I

> > have been doing dhumavati saadhana for almost 2

> months as advised

> by

> > Gurudevs (for riddance from evil spiritis

> tormenting my sister).

> In

> > a couple of days the deeksha is going to end.

>

>

>

>

> raghu,

> there is no such thing as a deeksha ending. i assume

> your required

> chant is ending. but why do you stop now when the

> problem is not yet

> completely solved? why not do it till your sister is

> perfectly OK?

> >

> > Can anyone tell me if there is any special ritual

> to do on the last

> > day like homa etc.

>

> it depends entirely on you. there is book in hindi

> called yagya vidhan

> if you can perform homa- by all means perform it

> give ahuti of both

> guru and dhoomavatii mantra

> but if you cannot i suggest taking some water in

> your palm and taking

> a sankalpa for havan poorna ahuti, then chant 10

> percent of the total

> chant you performed in the past 2 months. 25 percent

> is even better

> end it by making your sister make some donations in

> the name of

> divine mother. brahmin / kanya bhojan can also be

> performed.

>

> My sincere thanks to birendra_m ( i don't know if

> > this birendra_m is the same person

> (birendra_m_singh) who spoke to

> me

> > some 3 months ago over telephone).

>

>

> yes he is the same. he is kind and helpful and will

> be happy to see

> your problem solved.

>

> I also would like to know when

> > the results may be shown.

>

> raghu,

> i really apreciate the task and challenge you have

> taken.

> i have discused this result business with arun

> bhaiyya who used to

> answer queries. he used to say after the yantra as

> been dispersed in

> water. but this can mean a gap of a few weeks or

> even during the

> time you are chanting depeneding entirely upon the

> severity of the

> problem and the force of your sadhana.

> let us say some one performs sadhana for a job or

> marraige etc in

> that case a gap between the end of sadhana and

> fufilment of task does

> not will not really matter. but here it is not

> something welcome at

> all. i would recommend chanting 1 or 5 or 11 malas

> of dhoomavati at

> least daily till you see your sister is 100 percent

> fine. get her to

> do something! if not dhoomavati she can chant guru

> mantra or gayatri.

> see raghu the truth is diseases affect your system

> only if you alllow

> to. so there has to be a constant yearning inside

> her to be perfectly

> OK

> doing some small pooja etc is the manifestation of

> this will. i

> understand she is not in a state to perform sadhana.

> but even

> chanting the name of GOD lying in bed or litstening

> to chants is good

> enough

>

> The going is very very tough for me, to

> > see my sister daily in a chaotic condition.

>

>

> GOD bless you. may our guru bless you and may

> everything be fine

> bravo to you.

> till now she is only

> > getting indications that everything will be ok.

> Perhaps a little

> of

> > effect is also there (a few of the spirits have

> left it seems, but

> > the remaining one [or two] are very tough. They

> cause breating

> > trouble to her constantly almost 24 hrs, and she

> keeps hitting

> > herself over the neck and back saying that it will

> hit that entity

> > which is constantly hovering over her). I had put

> in a lot of

> effort

> > and also indebted to a noble person here in

> Bangalore, who got done

> > lot of background work like chanting of mantras by

> a group of

> people

> > for a specific num of days.

>

>

> this is really nice. who is this noble person?

> >

> > But, I am most worried and eager to see the final

> clearance.

>

> it will come, take heart.

> >

> GOD bless nad jai gurudev

> anu

>

>

 

 

 

 

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, kaps raghunath <kaps_nath> wrote:

> Hi anu,

>

> Its ravindra not raghu who asked this question.

 

i am sorry, looks like my brain is not functioning properly again

like the rest of me. ravindranath ji i am sorry.

 

.. how r u.

 

so so.

 

did u know anything about kritya.

 

absolutely nothing.

 

please ask

> birendra ji to help me in this regard.

 

 

ok. birendra ji please tell raghu about kritya sadhana. please

explain the process and other things in great detail.also birendra

ji, why is it that on your profile your second third and fourth

hobbies are mentioned but your first hobby has been kept a closely

guarded secret. please tell us all about it, we want to know.

 

rest is fine. on clearing my drafts today i found several unsent

mails to several peope. i think it is really a good documrntationon

my personal history, but also found 2 jokes

 

so am posting them

jai gurudev

anu

 

The man was in no shape to drive, so he wisely left his car

parked and walked home. As he was walking unsteadily along, he

was stopped by a policeman.

 

"What are you doing out here at 2 A.M.?" said the officer.

 

"I'm going to a lecture." the man said.

 

"And who is going to give a lecture at this hour?"the cop asked.

 

"My wife." said the man.

 

``````````````````````````````

 

A father, who worked away from home all week, always

made a special effort with his family at the weekends.

Every Sunday morning he would take his daughter out

for a drive in the car.

 

One particular Sunday however, he had a bad cold that

he really didn't feel like driving at all. Luckily,

his wife came to the rescue and decided that for this

week she would take their daughter out.

 

They returned just before lunch and the little girl

ran upstairs to see her father. "Well" the father

asked, "did you enjoy your ride with mommy?"

 

"Oh yes Daddy" the girl replied, "and do you know

what... we didn't see a single bastard!"

 

 

 

 

>

> raghu

> --- anu <devi_bhagat> wrote:

> > , "rv_nath" <rv_nath>

> > wrote:

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > This is Ravindranath. I am a regular reader of

> > this discussion

> > > forum, even though I don't participate or involve

> > any discussions.

> > I

> > > have been doing dhumavati saadhana for almost 2

> > months as advised

> > by

> > > Gurudevs (for riddance from evil spiritis

> > tormenting my sister).

> > In

> > > a couple of days the deeksha is going to end.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > raghu,

> > there is no such thing as a deeksha ending. i assume

> > your required

> > chant is ending. but why do you stop now when the

> > problem is not yet

> > completely solved? why not do it till your sister is

> > perfectly OK?

> > >

> > > Can anyone tell me if there is any special ritual

> > to do on the last

> > > day like homa etc.

> >

> > it depends entirely on you. there is book in hindi

> > called yagya vidhan

> > if you can perform homa- by all means perform it

> > give ahuti of both

> > guru and dhoomavatii mantra

> > but if you cannot i suggest taking some water in

> > your palm and taking

> > a sankalpa for havan poorna ahuti, then chant 10

> > percent of the total

> > chant you performed in the past 2 months. 25 percent

> > is even better

> > end it by making your sister make some donations in

> > the name of

> > divine mother. brahmin / kanya bhojan can also be

> > performed.

> >

> > My sincere thanks to birendra_m ( i don't know if

> > > this birendra_m is the same person

> > (birendra_m_singh) who spoke to

> > me

> > > some 3 months ago over telephone).

> >

> >

> > yes he is the same. he is kind and helpful and will

> > be happy to see

> > your problem solved.

> >

> > I also would like to know when

> > > the results may be shown.

> >

> > raghu,

> > i really apreciate the task and challenge you have

> > taken.

> > i have discused this result business with arun

> > bhaiyya who used to

> > answer queries. he used to say after the yantra as

> > been dispersed in

> > water. but this can mean a gap of a few weeks or

> > even during the

> > time you are chanting depeneding entirely upon the

> > severity of the

> > problem and the force of your sadhana.

> > let us say some one performs sadhana for a job or

> > marraige etc in

> > that case a gap between the end of sadhana and

> > fufilment of task does

> > not will not really matter. but here it is not

> > something welcome at

> > all. i would recommend chanting 1 or 5 or 11 malas

> > of dhoomavati at

> > least daily till you see your sister is 100 percent

> > fine. get her to

> > do something! if not dhoomavati she can chant guru

> > mantra or gayatri.

> > see raghu the truth is diseases affect your system

> > only if you alllow

> > to. so there has to be a constant yearning inside

> > her to be perfectly

> > OK

> > doing some small pooja etc is the manifestation of

> > this will. i

> > understand she is not in a state to perform sadhana.

> > but even

> > chanting the name of GOD lying in bed or litstening

> > to chants is good

> > enough

> >

> > The going is very very tough for me, to

> > > see my sister daily in a chaotic condition.

> >

> >

> > GOD bless you. may our guru bless you and may

> > everything be fine

> > bravo to you.

> > till now she is only

> > > getting indications that everything will be ok.

> > Perhaps a little

> > of

> > > effect is also there (a few of the spirits have

> > left it seems, but

> > > the remaining one [or two] are very tough. They

> > cause breating

> > > trouble to her constantly almost 24 hrs, and she

> > keeps hitting

> > > herself over the neck and back saying that it will

> > hit that entity

> > > which is constantly hovering over her). I had put

> > in a lot of

> > effort

> > > and also indebted to a noble person here in

> > Bangalore, who got done

> > > lot of background work like chanting of mantras by

> > a group of

> > people

> > > for a specific num of days.

> >

> >

> > this is really nice. who is this noble person?

> > >

> > > But, I am most worried and eager to see the final

> > clearance.

> >

> > it will come, take heart.

> > >

> > GOD bless nad jai gurudev

> > anu

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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why is it that on your profile your second third and fourth

> hobbies are mentioned but your first hobby has been kept a closely

> guarded secret. please tell us all about it, we want to know.

 

 

anu,

 

i dont remember exactly this was 2-3 yrs back, it was some thing to

do with "business", i wanted to tell that i was interested in

doing /being a businessman, so people on the internet started sending

me offers from africa/asian countries,biz forums, telling that they

have business proposition for me/something like that.., they even got

into my chat to discuss business , they were very serious abt

the business matters, so i thougt that it was a bad idea to put the

business thing there , so i removed it.

 

Jai Gurudev

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> did u know anything about kritya. please ask

> birendra ji to help me in this regard.

>

 

 

raghu,

 

iam amazed by your persistence,i really dont understand as to why you

are behind kritya sadhanas, i dont think you would get many people

doing this type of sadhana, i believe it is more of "sannyasi" type

of sadhanas than being a "grihasth" type of sadhana.

 

it is my understanding that all mantra sadhana would/should create a

form, if it has to be succesful, i dont know what is really

motivating you to go behind this kritya sadhana, but why dont you

think of doing your "ishta devta "mantra sadhana, he/she would bring

lot of benefit than the kritya.

 

Jai Gurudev

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ravindranath,

 

please keep chanting the mantra until your sisters problem is

solved,i recomend you take the "dhyan of the divine mother" seriously

before you start the chant,

 

have faith in the divine mother, she will never fail you,get more

personal in the sadhana, dont think sadhana as a business

transaction, where you chant only the required no of mantra,and demand

results, if you be business oriented, god also will be business

oriented, as you are prone to err while sadhana, he/she will not give

you result, instead i recommend to approach lord in more personal way,

say like a mother, you will start enjoying sadhana,at the same time

you will develop lot of faith in her ,due to the mother son

relationship.

 

as long as one has not cleared your bad karma list,until that time,

you cant question lord for granting results in sadhana, instead more

better perspective is to do sadhana by taking it more

personal/emotional way, beleive me no effort goes waste, though it

takes time to materaialise,(becos you are dealing with nature) until

that time ,persist to you sadhana, its more easy to persist if you

take her as your mother than not.

 

hope you got the message

 

May divine mother bless you with sucess, which iam sure she will,this

is my faith in HER.

 

Jai Gurudev

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Birendra...

 

Thank u very much for your words of wisdom.

 

Believe me, my intention in putting the query was "just to know" if

there was anything spl ritual to be done, apart from chanting. I

have read some articles posted under "Read others experiences", where

it was mentioned like "On 14 April she offered oblations in the holy

fire...". (This prev line is a copy-paste from the web site) Because

of this only, I am asking.

 

The other issue is that the black hakik mala that was sent to me, is

in the final stages. One of the layers of the thread (it consists of

2 layers of threads) got worn out at two places, and I am handling it

carefully. I plan to drop it in water soon, but continue with

chanting with some other mala.

 

Thirdly, I had never demanded or would ever demand for my own

personal sake. All this I am doing is for my sister. I had gone

through the toughest of financial troubles five years ago. Inspite

of it I never begged from divinity anything for myself.

 

On the far side of these issues, I would like to know if u r the same

birendra who spoke to me some 6 months ago. But then the name was

birendra_m_singh. Pls clarify.

 

sincere regards

Jai Gurudev.

 

, "birendra_m" <birendra_m> wrote:

> ravindranath,

>

> please keep chanting the mantra until your sisters problem is

> solved,i recomend you take the "dhyan of the divine mother"

seriously

> before you start the chant,

>

> have faith in the divine mother, she will never fail you,get more

> personal in the sadhana, dont think sadhana as a business

> transaction, where you chant only the required no of mantra,and

demand

> results, if you be business oriented, god also will be business

> oriented, as you are prone to err while sadhana, he/she will not

give

> you result, instead i recommend to approach lord in more personal

way,

> say like a mother, you will start enjoying sadhana,at the same time

> you will develop lot of faith in her ,due to the mother son

> relationship.

>

> as long as one has not cleared your bad karma list,until that time,

> you cant question lord for granting results in sadhana, instead

more

> better perspective is to do sadhana by taking it more

> personal/emotional way, beleive me no effort goes waste, though it

> takes time to materaialise,(becos you are dealing with nature)

until

> that time ,persist to you sadhana, its more easy to persist if you

> take her as your mother than not.

>

> hope you got the message

>

> May divine mother bless you with sucess, which iam sure she

will,this

> is my faith in HER.

>

> Jai Gurudev

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Jay Gurudev

Dear Brother

> The other issue is that the black hakik mala that was sent to me,

is

> in the final stages. One of the layers of the thread (it consists

of

> 2 layers of threads) got worn out at two places, and I am handling

it

> carefully. I plan to drop it in water soon, but continue with

> chanting with some other mala.

 

U can continue using the same sadhna material and mala upto 3 times.

In case the thread is got worn just make it again using synthetic

thread or even that janeu or the yagyopavit thread, available at any

good grossary shop.

 

Jay Gurudev

Charanjit

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