Guest guest Report post Posted January 23, 2002 Hello. I have a few more questions on the Divya Drishti Sadhna again. I wanted to ask you guys a few questions on Divya Drishti Sadhna, which I have decided to try do. I recieved a reply that stated I should recite one of god's name while I meditate on my sixth chakra, or I can recite a guru mantra in reply for my other messages. So my question is what do I do when meditating, do I imagine my chakra spinning, or what? And is there any other mantra which I can chant while doing the meditation? Can I chant the Aaagya Chakra Jaagram Mantra? If any of you think I am ready for that mantra, please provide me with it! THANK YOU for listening to what I have to say, and for all you replies! Have a great day Jai Shri KRSNA, Kashyap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 23, 2002 JAI GURUDEV Dear Kashyap... > Jai Shri KRSNA, What you are trying to write is written as "KRISHNA" and not as "KRSNA". Ashish... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 25, 2002 kashyapji in magazine it has been said that sadhana articles for Agyaa Chakraa will only be sent after Pujya Gurudev approves it. So i guess to get this sadhana you have to first get permission from Pujya Gurudev. In one of the magazine (MTYV , i don't remeber which issue) one small sadhana is given for Agyaa Chakra activation u can do that. After Anaahat chakra the activation of rest 3 chakras is not that easy. One needs to have strong devotion in Pujya Gurudev to make it happen. Also for the activation of Shasrar chakra it was given in magazine that chant mantra only once but pray to him to make this happen. Activation shasrar and the other two chakraas can only happen succesfully only when one has devotion towards ones Guru. > >kashyap2165 [kashyap2165] >Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:26 AM > > Divya Drishti Sadhna > > >Hello. > >I have a few more questions on the Divya Drishti Sadhna again. > > >I wanted to ask you guys a few questions on Divya Drishti >Sadhna, which I have decided to try >do. I recieved a reply that stated I >should recite one of god's name while I >meditate on my sixth chakra, or I can recite a guru >mantra in reply for my other messages. > >So my question is what do I do when meditating, do I >imagine my chakra spinning, or >what? > >And is there any other mantra which I can chant while >doing the meditation? Can I chant >the Aaagya Chakra Jaagram Mantra? If any of you think I am >ready for that mantra, please >provide me with it! > > >THANK YOU for listening to what I have to say, and for all you >replies! > >Have a great day > >Jai Shri KRSNA, >Kashyap > > >------------------------ Sponsor >---------------------~--> >Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck >Monitoring Service trial >http://us.click./ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/wpWolB/TM >------------------------------ >------~-> > >Jay Gurudev > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify us immediately, return the original mail to the sender and delete the message from your system." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 25, 2002 > sadhana articles for Agyaa Chakraa will only > be sent after Pujya Gurudev approves it. So i > guess to get this sadhana you have to first > get permission from Pujya Gurudev. i do not at all agree. getting permission means paying for diksha. some might get angry ... pls do not mind. but take it as a fact... it really hurts to see someone in grave problem with a chit for diksha that he cant afford instead of a solution ... according to one of my masters only pseudogurus practice this. i dont know abt kailashji but in some ways it is greed ... probably u may not agree with this... but i cant live with lies anymore. either i must speak the truth or i will leave this group and never return ... dear kashyap, contact me personally ... affectionately Jai Gurudev Great stuff seeking new owners in Auctions! http://auctions. ----- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 25, 2002 Birendra it seems you are talking about Paramhansa Sawmi Nikhileshwaranandji and his 3 sons. It seems birendra you have already drawn your conclusions. Is there anyone on this list who has been to Guru Poornima Shivir of 1995. I came to know about this from a disciple who attended the shivir. I don't remember the exact things but in summary this is what happened. In the Guru Porrnima Shivir of Panipat 1995. It seems Income Tax people came to shivir and wanted to know frm where does so much money comes. Gurudev said these people want to know about money. Gurudev said tumhari jintaa ichha ho unta dhan is chaddar par rakh do. After everyone has donated money it was quite a huge amount of money. I think after that the respective amounts were given back and when everyone returned to their home they found that whatever amount they had given it got doubled. In shivir the dhan vyay for sadhanas is around 600/- if this had been greed it would have remained the same price amount which one has to give for taking dikshaas separately and i have seen that gurudev have given dikshaas to people even without money and how will one account for the dikshaas which Pujya Gurudev give in dream. All the amount that is taken in invested for building a research institute in Manali, Aarogaya Dham in Delhi and also for the temple which was being built in Jodhour and also for organising shivirs. I know only about these there can be similar other activities too. What will this money give him who has all kind of siddhis (51) has ever been known. He himself is capable of generating as much money as he wants. I can't say abt other two sons of Pujya Gurudev ( i haven't had much interacvtiojn with them ) but if you the same ideas about Pujya Gurudev and Gurudev Kailash Chandra Shrimaliji then i straight away deny your allegations and ask you to be more careful before you allege someone. If you have many Gurus thats good for you. But that doens't give you the right to utter disgraceful words towards your Guru. If you think Prama Pujya Gurudev is not right then leave his discipleship. Its more great a sin to accept someone as Guru and to think worng abt him than to leave the discipleship. This all is being done for the people and only the money given by them is in one form a Guru Dakshina. How do u think the publishing of a magazine, setting up shivirs, writting books, always be on a move from one part of the country to another can happen without any financial help. Do u think the tent person, the audio and video recording person will give his service without money. Don't forget if one is living is in this society then one has to live like a grihasth. He just can't create money and keep doing doing out of that money. If you want something u have give back in some way. In olden days shishyaas used to do every kind work for Guru. Do u think that is possible now in these modren times. Do people of this time have the time to devote major part of his life at the feet of Guru. This momentous task needs to happen in a organised way then to depend on donations. I don't know about you but he have given me a new life shown me how to be pure somehing which i don't know how it would have happened. Even if i have to spend all of my coming lives at his feet even that will not be enough to repay. How can ever succeed in repaying a Guru. he can do that by offering himself in all to Guru. When he becomes one with Guru there will be nothing left to offer and nothing left to be saved. Jai Gurudev Anurag birendra singh m [birendra_m ]Friday, January 25, 2002 3:34 PMTo: Subject: RE: Divya Drishti Sadhna> kashyapji in magazine it has been said that > sadhana articles for Agyaa Chakraa will only > be sent after Pujya Gurudev approves it. So i > guess to get this sadhana you have to first > get permission from Pujya Gurudev. i do not at all agree. getting permission means paying for diksha. some might get angry ... pls do not mind. but take it as a fact... it really hurts to see someone in grave problem with a chit for diksha that he cant afford instead of a solution ... according to one of my masters only pseudogurus practice this. i dont know abt kailashji but in some ways it is greed ... probably u may not agree with this... but i cant live with lies anymore. either i must speak the truth or i will leave this group and never return ... dear kashyap, contact me personally ... affectionately Jai Gurudev "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify us immediately, return the original mail to the sender and delete the message from your system." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 25, 2002 Mr. Birendra Singh, > i do not at all agree. getting permission means paying > for diksha. some might get angry ... pls do not mind. > but take it as a fact... it really hurts to see someone > in grave problem with a chit for diksha that he cant > afford instead of a solution ... according to one of my > masters only pseudogurus practice this. i dont know abt > kailashji but in some ways it is greed Are you out of your mind? Who, the hell, do you think you are? How dare you call Bade Gurudev and Trimurty Gurudevs greedy and pseudogurus? Have you ever even met them? They are great and their greatness does not need your or your master's certificate. As far as the money is concerned, everyone faces problems because of bad karmas of this and past lives. By making him pay for diksha, Guruji makes him pay for those karmas. Once the effect of bad karmas is gone, all problems are sorted out with the help of the divine energy transferred into sadhak by guruji. But, understanding this stuff requires a brain, something, I'm sure, you don't have. > ... probably u may not agree with this... but i cant live > with lies anymore. No, I do not and no real disciple of My Guruji would ever agree with you. How could you write all that? If we all are liers, who do you think you are; a saint. Damn you. You are no saint. You are a satan. I really curse the day when I considered you my friend, my brother. You are not even a human. If you can't live with this truth, you are free to die. > either i must speak the truth or i will leave this group > and never return ... This group belong to the disciples of bade guruji and trimurty gurujis. There is no place here for anyone who dares to insult them. LEAVE THIS GROUP RIGHT NOW AND DO NOT, EVER, COME BACK. > dear kashyap, contact me personally ... Don't listen to him Kashyap. He has lost his mind. > affectionately Affection? My foot. > Jai Gurudev JAI GURUDEV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 25, 2002 dear anurag amd ashish, tum log paagal ho gaye ho kya, Bade Gurudev is my love and my life why the hell i ll talk all this crap, why are u people getting into this maya stuff, some one has hacked into my account and send this mail, iam in US during the time the email was sent(303pm) i am in my house sleeping... some one in this group has got into my account becos my password is related to Gurudev so easy to hack, some one with a computer and lot of useless time and some stupid brain has who hates Gurudev has done this.... ill get back to u shrotly Jai Gurudev , "nikhilashish" <nikhilashish> wrote: > Mr. Birendra Singh, > > > i do not at all agree. getting permission means paying > > for diksha. some might get angry ... pls do not mind. > > but take it as a fact... it really hurts to see someone > > in grave problem with a chit for diksha that he cant > > afford instead of a solution ... according to one of my > > masters only pseudogurus practice this. i dont know abt > > kailashji but in some ways it is greed > > Are you out of your mind? Who, the hell, do you think you are? How > dare you call Bade Gurudev and Trimurty Gurudevs greedy and > pseudogurus? Have you ever even met them? They are great and their > greatness does not need your or your master's certificate. > > As far as the money is concerned, everyone faces problems because of > bad karmas of this and past lives. By making him pay for diksha, > Guruji makes him pay for those karmas. Once the effect of bad karmas > is gone, all problems are sorted out with the help of the divine > energy transferred into sadhak by guruji. But, understanding this > stuff requires a brain, something, I'm sure, you don't have. > > > ... probably u may not agree with this... but i cant live > > with lies anymore. > > No, I do not and no real disciple of My Guruji would ever agree with > you. How could you write all that? If we all are liers, who do you > think you are; a saint. Damn you. You are no saint. You are a satan. > I really curse the day when I considered you my friend, my brother. > You are not even a human. If you can't live with this truth, you are > free to die. > > > either i must speak the truth or i will leave this group > > and never return ... > > This group belong to the disciples of bade guruji and trimurty > gurujis. There is no place here for anyone who dares to insult them. > > LEAVE THIS GROUP RIGHT NOW AND DO NOT, EVER, COME BACK. > > > dear kashyap, contact me personally ... > > Don't listen to him Kashyap. He has lost his mind. > > > affectionately > > Affection? My foot. > > > Jai Gurudev > > JAI GURUDEV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 25, 2002 dear anurag amd ashish, tum log paagal ho gaye ho kya, Bade Gurudev is my love and my life why the hell i ll talk all this crap, why are u people getting into this maya stuff, some one has hacked into my account and send this mail, iam in US during the time the email was sent(303pm) i am in my house sleeping... some one in this group has got into my account becos my password is related to Gurudev so easy to hack, some one with a computer and lot of useless time and some stupid brain has who hates Gurudev has done this.... ill get back to u shrotly Jai Gurudev , "nikhilashish" <nikhilashish> wrote: > Mr. Birendra Singh, > > > i do not at all agree. getting permission means paying > > for diksha. some might get angry ... pls do not mind. > > but take it as a fact... it really hurts to see someone > > in grave problem with a chit for diksha that he cant > > afford instead of a solution ... according to one of my > > masters only pseudogurus practice this. i dont know abt > > kailashji but in some ways it is greed > > Are you out of your mind? Who, the hell, do you think you are? How > dare you call Bade Gurudev and Trimurty Gurudevs greedy and > pseudogurus? Have you ever even met them? They are great and their > greatness does not need your or your master's certificate. > > As far as the money is concerned, everyone faces problems because of > bad karmas of this and past lives. By making him pay for diksha, > Guruji makes him pay for those karmas. Once the effect of bad karmas > is gone, all problems are sorted out with the help of the divine > energy transferred into sadhak by guruji. But, understanding this > stuff requires a brain, something, I'm sure, you don't have. > > > ... probably u may not agree with this... but i cant live > > with lies anymore. > > No, I do not and no real disciple of My Guruji would ever agree with > you. How could you write all that? If we all are liers, who do you > think you are; a saint. Damn you. You are no saint. You are a satan. > I really curse the day when I considered you my friend, my brother. > You are not even a human. If you can't live with this truth, you are > free to die. > > > either i must speak the truth or i will leave this group > > and never return ... > > This group belong to the disciples of bade guruji and trimurty > gurujis. There is no place here for anyone who dares to insult them. > > LEAVE THIS GROUP RIGHT NOW AND DO NOT, EVER, COME BACK. > > > dear kashyap, contact me personally ... > > Don't listen to him Kashyap. He has lost his mind. > > > affectionately > > Affection? My foot. > > > Jai Gurudev > > JAI GURUDEV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Guest guest Report post Posted January 25, 2002 ashsish anurag tum log paagal ho gaye ho kya why the hell i would write that, some one is misutilising my name and having lot of funtime. until now pls show me a mail where i have despised any of Gurudev's , atleast one of them, why do u react like that.... if u see the post its 303 pm and as iam iN US at that time i would be sleeping... besides the name should appear as birendra_m and if u see the name appears in full...(birendra singh m) so the mail to kashyap is not sent by me,pls be in ur senses ,pls dont loose common sense, i love Bade Gurudev, he is more than my life to me, i have atleast the same bhakti to Bade Guurdev as u people have, pls think and act why the hell would i write all this ,do u think that iam gone mad or what i understand ur peoples intention , iam not angry but only i want u people to think and reeact after staying in 1 yr with the group is this all u learnt abt me.... great maya is great u people are great... iam staying in the group only out of my love for my Gurudev , and none else , who ever wants to leave the group can leave or if they want to remain will remain pls understand my dear ones. Jai Gurudev Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 25, 2002 some one with access rights to the issp list has done this, he has a very bad intention , Let God teach him a lesson, people think they are smart, and its the same smartness that drags them down! they dont realise that who ever has misutilised my name, i leave it to Lord to what ever action he wants to take ,i am for sure that this person is stupidest person in the world, he is lost in maya... if he thinks he is smart he gets a big zero from me, if the world recognises his smartness he and the world go to hell... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Guest guest Report post Posted January 25, 2002 JAI GURUDEV Birendra, > ashsish anurag tum log paagal ho gaye ho kya Nahin, Hum to nahin magar shaayad tum zaroor ho gaye ho. > why the hell i would write that That's I should be asking you. Why did you do that? Were you trying to be a great philosopher who justifies commenting on his own guru. > some one is misutilising my name and having lot of > funtime. Oh yeah! Someone is trying to defame you because you are the next Prime Minister of India!!! > until now pls show me a mail where i have despised any of > Gurudev's , atleast one of them, why do u react like that.... Because I, also, did not see any message where some member of this group is trying to defame another member. > if u see the post its 303 pm and as iam iN US at that time > i would be sleeping... That's not enough to prove that you are innocent. > besides the name should appear as birendra_m > and if u see the name appears in full...(birendra singh m) That's not a big deal. > pls be in ur senses ,pls dont loose common sense I am in my senses; but, apparently, you are not. > do u think that iam gone mad Yes, I am pretty sure about that. > is this all u learnt abt me.... No. After this incident, I am sure, I have a lot more to learn about you. Frankly speaking, I liked and respect you most in this group. I used to think that you are a divine soul born on this planet to do some good deeds. Unfortunately, I would never forgive you for what you have done. > iam staying in the group only out of my love for my Gurudev, and > none else None else? Are you refering to Trimurty Gurudevs? Please, leave nice and easy otherwise I would get you thrown out of this group. If you really love bade guruji, prove your love for him by leaving this group and never returning. You have disgraced us all. > who ever wants to leave the group can leave or if they want to > remain will remain No, no, no... You won't get rid of me that easy. Ashish... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 25, 2002 , "birendra_m" <birendra_m> wrote: > , "birendra_m" <birendra_m> wrote: > > test mail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Guest guest Report post Posted January 28, 2002 Hi birendra, before replying to birandra's mail i did observe the name against the email ID to see if its the same birendra. I found that the name was different but email ID's are same so i went ahead to write the email thinking its birendra. Birendra denies that he hasn't done so rather someone who has a wicked heart and has a know how of technology has done so. i don't have that much insight in to internet technology as to see if its the work of someone else. Its possible that someone can hack in if someone hates birendra. I have hated someone very much and was trying to see if i can hack in to that persons account to give him a nice reply to whatever that person has done to me but i never went about doing it. So if there is someone who hates birendra a great deal then i guess that person can do this. Birendra i have no other proof so on the grounds of benefit of doubt i do forgive you. Well i should say that person even forged the way you write. i will try to hack down on that person. In the the magazine one an article appeared abt a soul who got cursed to burn in this universe irrespective of where that person goes. This person while he was alive used to say bad words about Pujya Gurudev to one of his disciples. Now and again that person said bad words about Pujya Gurudev to that disciple. When that person died and its soul tried to enter the doors of heaven or hell. He was denied entry to either or any other place by the guards of that place saying that he has disgraced a divine soul. He was not allowed to enter any of the places in the universe and hs soul started started burning in this universe knowing not what to do he haunted some person who was close to that disciple to whom he used to say bad words abt Pujya Gurudev. This disciple has learnt from Pujya Gurudev hope to carte evil spirits. When this disciple made this evil spirit talk he uttered out the whole story and said that he no other go but to haunt this persons's body so that you could come. He said that he had been told that only you have the right to forgive him otherwise there is no other salvation for him. This disciple of Pujya Gurudev gave him some punishments and said that he ha forgiven him. Its only after that the came to peace and left the persons body whom he was haunting. Its not good to leave the group. This weekend even i was thinking of leaving the group. i was feeling sorry i didn't dealt with that person (who personified himself as birendra) more strongly. Ashish lets try to investigate who is behind this and throw that person away. Regards, Anurag Jai Gurudev. ps - I request ashish to join the group again and help in finding who did this. > >birendra_m [birendra_m] >Friday, January 25, 2002 8:31 PM > > Re: Divya Drishti Sadhna > > >dear anurag amd ashish, > >tum log paagal ho gaye ho kya, Bade Gurudev is my love and my life >why the hell i ll talk all this crap, why are u people getting into >this maya stuff, some one has hacked into my account and send this >mail, iam in US during the time the email was sent(303pm) i am in my >house >sleeping... > > >some one in this group has got into my account becos my password is >related to Gurudev so easy to hack, some one with a computer and >lot of useless time and some stupid brain has who hates Gurudev has >done this.... > > > >ill get back to u shrotly > > >Jai Gurudev > > > >, "nikhilashish" <nikhilashish> wrote: >> Mr. Birendra Singh, >> >> > i do not at all agree. getting permission means paying >> > for diksha. some might get angry ... pls do not mind. >> > but take it as a fact... it really hurts to see someone >> > in grave problem with a chit for diksha that he cant >> > afford instead of a solution ... according to one of my >> > masters only pseudogurus practice this. i dont know abt >> > kailashji but in some ways it is greed >> >> Are you out of your mind? Who, the hell, do you think you are? How >> dare you call Bade Gurudev and Trimurty Gurudevs greedy and >> pseudogurus? Have you ever even met them? They are great and their >> greatness does not need your or your master's certificate. >> >> As far as the money is concerned, everyone faces problems because of >> bad karmas of this and past lives. By making him pay for diksha, >> Guruji makes him pay for those karmas. Once the effect of bad karmas >> is gone, all problems are sorted out with the help of the divine >> energy transferred into sadhak by guruji. But, understanding this >> stuff requires a brain, something, I'm sure, you don't have. >> >> > ... probably u may not agree with this... but i cant live >> > with lies anymore. >> >> No, I do not and no real disciple of My Guruji would ever agree with >> you. How could you write all that? If we all are liers, who do you >> think you are; a saint. Damn you. You are no saint. You are a satan. >> I really curse the day when I considered you my friend, my brother. >> You are not even a human. If you can't live with this truth, you are >> free to die. >> >> > either i must speak the truth or i will leave this group >> > and never return ... >> >> This group belong to the disciples of bade guruji and trimurty >> gurujis. There is no place here for anyone who dares to insult them. >> >> LEAVE THIS GROUP RIGHT NOW AND DO NOT, EVER, COME BACK. >> >> > dear kashyap, contact me personally ... >> >> Don't listen to him Kashyap. He has lost his mind. >> >> > affectionately >> >> Affection? My foot. >> >> > Jai Gurudev >> >> JAI GURUDEV. > > >------------------------ Sponsor >---------------------~--> >Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck >Monitoring Service trial >http://us.click./ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/wpWolB/TM >------------------------------ >------~-> > >Jay Gurudev > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > "THIS E-MAIL MESSAGE ALONG WITH ANY ATTACHMENTS IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE ADDRESSEE and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly Prohibited. If you have received this message by error, please notify us immediately, return the original mail to the sender and delete the message from your system." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
