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Hello.

 

I have a few more questions on the Divya Drishti Sadhna again.

 

 

I wanted to ask you guys a few questions on Divya Drishti

Sadhna, which I have decided to try

do. I recieved a reply that stated I

should recite one of god's name while I

meditate on my sixth chakra, or I can recite a guru

mantra in reply for my other messages.

 

So my question is what do I do when meditating, do I

imagine my chakra spinning, or

what?

 

And is there any other mantra which I can chant while

doing the meditation? Can I chant

the Aaagya Chakra Jaagram Mantra? If any of you think I am

ready for that mantra, please

provide me with it!

 

 

THANK YOU for listening to what I have to say, and for all you

replies!

 

Have a great day

 

Jai Shri KRSNA,

Kashyap

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kashyapji in magazine it has been said that sadhana articles for Agyaa

Chakraa will only be sent after Pujya Gurudev approves it. So i guess to get

this sadhana you have to first get permission from Pujya Gurudev. In one of

the magazine (MTYV , i don't remeber which issue) one small sadhana is

given for Agyaa Chakra activation u can do that.

 

After Anaahat chakra the activation of rest 3 chakras is not that easy. One

needs to have strong devotion in Pujya Gurudev to make it happen.

 

Also for the activation of Shasrar chakra it was given in magazine that

chant mantra only once but pray to him to make this happen. Activation

shasrar and the other two chakraas can only happen succesfully only when one

has devotion towards ones Guru.

 

>

>kashyap2165 [kashyap2165]

>Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:26 AM

>

> Divya Drishti Sadhna

>

>

>Hello.

>

>I have a few more questions on the Divya Drishti Sadhna again.

>

>

>I wanted to ask you guys a few questions on Divya Drishti

>Sadhna, which I have decided to try

>do. I recieved a reply that stated I

>should recite one of god's name while I

>meditate on my sixth chakra, or I can recite a guru

>mantra in reply for my other messages.

>

>So my question is what do I do when meditating, do I

>imagine my chakra spinning, or

>what?

>

>And is there any other mantra which I can chant while

>doing the meditation? Can I chant

>the Aaagya Chakra Jaagram Mantra? If any of you think I am

>ready for that mantra, please

>provide me with it!

>

>

>THANK YOU for listening to what I have to say, and for all you

>replies!

>

>Have a great day

>

>Jai Shri KRSNA,

>Kashyap

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> sadhana articles for Agyaa Chakraa will only

> be sent after Pujya Gurudev approves it. So i

> guess to get this sadhana you have to first

> get permission from Pujya Gurudev.

i do not at all agree. getting permission means paying for diksha. some might

get angry ... pls do not mind. but take it as a fact... it really hurts to see

someone in grave problem with a chit for diksha that he cant afford instead of

a solution ...

according to one of my masters only pseudogurus practice this. i dont know abt

kailashji but in some ways it is greed ...

probably u may not agree with this... but i cant live with lies anymore. either

i must speak the truth or i will leave this group and never return ...

dear kashyap, contact me personally ...

affectionately

Jai Gurudev

 

 

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Birendra it seems you are talking about Paramhansa Sawmi Nikhileshwaranandji and his 3 sons.

It seems birendra you have already drawn your conclusions. Is there anyone on

this list who has been to Guru Poornima Shivir of 1995. I came to know about

this from a disciple who attended the shivir. I don't remember the exact things

but in summary this is what happened. In the Guru Porrnima Shivir of Panipat

1995. It seems Income Tax people came to shivir and wanted to know frm where

does so much money comes. Gurudev said these people want to know about money.

Gurudev said tumhari jintaa ichha ho unta dhan is chaddar par rakh do. After

everyone has donated money it was quite a huge amount of money. I think after

that the respective amounts were given back and when everyone returned to their

home they found that whatever amount they had given it got doubled.

In shivir the dhan vyay for sadhanas is around 600/- if this had been greed it

would have remained the same price amount which one has to give for taking

dikshaas separately and i have seen that gurudev have given dikshaas to people

even without money and how will one account for the dikshaas which Pujya

Gurudev give in dream.

All the amount that is taken in invested for building a research institute in

Manali, Aarogaya Dham in Delhi and also for the temple which was being built

in Jodhour and also for organising shivirs. I know only about these there can

be similar other activities too. What will this money give him who has all

kind of siddhis (51) has ever been known. He himself is capable of generating

as much money as he wants.

I can't say abt other two sons of Pujya Gurudev ( i haven't had much

interacvtiojn with them ) but if you the same ideas about Pujya Gurudev and

Gurudev Kailash Chandra Shrimaliji then i straight away deny your allegations

and ask you to be more careful before you allege someone.

If you have many Gurus thats good for you. But that doens't give you the right

to utter disgraceful words towards your Guru. If you think Prama Pujya Gurudev

is not right then leave his discipleship. Its more great a sin to accept

someone as Guru and to think worng abt him than to leave the discipleship.

This all is being done for the people and only the money given by them is in one

form a Guru Dakshina. How do u think the publishing of a magazine, setting up

shivirs, writting books, always be on a move from one part of the country to

another can happen without any financial help. Do u think the tent person, the

audio and video recording person will give his service without money. Don't

forget if one is living is in this society then one has to live like a

grihasth. He just can't create money and keep doing doing out of that money. If

you want something u have give back in some way. In olden days shishyaas used to

do every kind work for Guru. Do u think that is possible now in these modren

times. Do people of this time have the time to devote major part of his life at

the feet of Guru. This momentous task needs to happen in a organised way then to

depend on donations. I don't know about you but he have given me a new life

shown me how to be pure somehing which i don't know how it would have happened.

Even if i have to spend all of my coming lives at his feet even that will not be

enough to repay. How can ever succeed in repaying a Guru. he can do that by

offering himself in all to Guru. When he becomes one with Guru there will be

nothing left to offer and nothing left to be saved.

Jai Gurudev

Anurag

birendra singh m

[birendra_m ]Friday, January 25, 2002 3:34 PMTo:

Subject: RE: Divya Drishti Sadhna> kashyapji

in magazine it has been said that > sadhana articles for Agyaa Chakraa will only

> be sent after Pujya Gurudev approves it. So i > guess to get this sadhana you

have to first > get permission from Pujya Gurudev. i do not at all agree.

getting permission means paying for diksha. some might get angry ... pls do not

mind. but take it as a fact... it really hurts to see someone in grave problem

with a chit for diksha that he cant afford instead of a solution ... according

to one of my masters only pseudogurus practice this. i dont know abt kailashji

but in some ways it is greed ... probably u may not agree with this... but i

cant live with lies anymore. either i must speak the truth or i will leave this

group and never return ... dear kashyap, contact me personally ...

affectionately Jai Gurudev

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Mr. Birendra Singh,

> i do not at all agree. getting permission means paying

> for diksha. some might get angry ... pls do not mind.

> but take it as a fact... it really hurts to see someone

> in grave problem with a chit for diksha that he cant

> afford instead of a solution ... according to one of my

> masters only pseudogurus practice this. i dont know abt

> kailashji but in some ways it is greed

 

Are you out of your mind? Who, the hell, do you think you are? How

dare you call Bade Gurudev and Trimurty Gurudevs greedy and

pseudogurus? Have you ever even met them? They are great and their

greatness does not need your or your master's certificate.

 

As far as the money is concerned, everyone faces problems because of

bad karmas of this and past lives. By making him pay for diksha,

Guruji makes him pay for those karmas. Once the effect of bad karmas

is gone, all problems are sorted out with the help of the divine

energy transferred into sadhak by guruji. But, understanding this

stuff requires a brain, something, I'm sure, you don't have.

> ... probably u may not agree with this... but i cant live

> with lies anymore.

 

No, I do not and no real disciple of My Guruji would ever agree with

you. How could you write all that? If we all are liers, who do you

think you are; a saint. Damn you. You are no saint. You are a satan.

I really curse the day when I considered you my friend, my brother.

You are not even a human. If you can't live with this truth, you are

free to die.

> either i must speak the truth or i will leave this group

> and never return ...

 

This group belong to the disciples of bade guruji and trimurty

gurujis. There is no place here for anyone who dares to insult them.

 

LEAVE THIS GROUP RIGHT NOW AND DO NOT, EVER, COME BACK.

> dear kashyap, contact me personally ...

 

Don't listen to him Kashyap. He has lost his mind.

> affectionately

 

Affection? My foot.

> Jai Gurudev

 

JAI GURUDEV.

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dear anurag amd ashish,

 

tum log paagal ho gaye ho kya, Bade Gurudev is my love and my life

why the hell i ll talk all this crap, why are u people getting into

this maya stuff, some one has hacked into my account and send this

mail, iam in US during the time the email was sent(303pm) i am in my

house

sleeping...

 

 

some one in this group has got into my account becos my password is

related to Gurudev so easy to hack, some one with a computer and

lot of useless time and some stupid brain has who hates Gurudev has

done this....

 

 

 

ill get back to u shrotly

 

 

Jai Gurudev

 

 

 

, "nikhilashish" <nikhilashish> wrote:

> Mr. Birendra Singh,

>

> > i do not at all agree. getting permission means paying

> > for diksha. some might get angry ... pls do not mind.

> > but take it as a fact... it really hurts to see someone

> > in grave problem with a chit for diksha that he cant

> > afford instead of a solution ... according to one of my

> > masters only pseudogurus practice this. i dont know abt

> > kailashji but in some ways it is greed

>

> Are you out of your mind? Who, the hell, do you think you are? How

> dare you call Bade Gurudev and Trimurty Gurudevs greedy and

> pseudogurus? Have you ever even met them? They are great and their

> greatness does not need your or your master's certificate.

>

> As far as the money is concerned, everyone faces problems because of

> bad karmas of this and past lives. By making him pay for diksha,

> Guruji makes him pay for those karmas. Once the effect of bad karmas

> is gone, all problems are sorted out with the help of the divine

> energy transferred into sadhak by guruji. But, understanding this

> stuff requires a brain, something, I'm sure, you don't have.

>

> > ... probably u may not agree with this... but i cant live

> > with lies anymore.

>

> No, I do not and no real disciple of My Guruji would ever agree with

> you. How could you write all that? If we all are liers, who do you

> think you are; a saint. Damn you. You are no saint. You are a satan.

> I really curse the day when I considered you my friend, my brother.

> You are not even a human. If you can't live with this truth, you are

> free to die.

>

> > either i must speak the truth or i will leave this group

> > and never return ...

>

> This group belong to the disciples of bade guruji and trimurty

> gurujis. There is no place here for anyone who dares to insult them.

>

> LEAVE THIS GROUP RIGHT NOW AND DO NOT, EVER, COME BACK.

>

> > dear kashyap, contact me personally ...

>

> Don't listen to him Kashyap. He has lost his mind.

>

> > affectionately

>

> Affection? My foot.

>

> > Jai Gurudev

>

> JAI GURUDEV.

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dear anurag amd ashish,

 

tum log paagal ho gaye ho kya, Bade Gurudev is my love and my life

why the hell i ll talk all this crap, why are u people getting into

this maya stuff, some one has hacked into my account and send this

mail, iam in US during the time the email was sent(303pm) i am in my

house

sleeping...

 

 

some one in this group has got into my account becos my password is

related to Gurudev so easy to hack, some one with a computer and

lot of useless time and some stupid brain has who hates Gurudev has

done this....

 

 

 

ill get back to u shrotly

 

 

Jai Gurudev

 

 

 

, "nikhilashish" <nikhilashish> wrote:

> Mr. Birendra Singh,

>

> > i do not at all agree. getting permission means paying

> > for diksha. some might get angry ... pls do not mind.

> > but take it as a fact... it really hurts to see someone

> > in grave problem with a chit for diksha that he cant

> > afford instead of a solution ... according to one of my

> > masters only pseudogurus practice this. i dont know abt

> > kailashji but in some ways it is greed

>

> Are you out of your mind? Who, the hell, do you think you are? How

> dare you call Bade Gurudev and Trimurty Gurudevs greedy and

> pseudogurus? Have you ever even met them? They are great and their

> greatness does not need your or your master's certificate.

>

> As far as the money is concerned, everyone faces problems because of

> bad karmas of this and past lives. By making him pay for diksha,

> Guruji makes him pay for those karmas. Once the effect of bad karmas

> is gone, all problems are sorted out with the help of the divine

> energy transferred into sadhak by guruji. But, understanding this

> stuff requires a brain, something, I'm sure, you don't have.

>

> > ... probably u may not agree with this... but i cant live

> > with lies anymore.

>

> No, I do not and no real disciple of My Guruji would ever agree with

> you. How could you write all that? If we all are liers, who do you

> think you are; a saint. Damn you. You are no saint. You are a satan.

> I really curse the day when I considered you my friend, my brother.

> You are not even a human. If you can't live with this truth, you are

> free to die.

>

> > either i must speak the truth or i will leave this group

> > and never return ...

>

> This group belong to the disciples of bade guruji and trimurty

> gurujis. There is no place here for anyone who dares to insult them.

>

> LEAVE THIS GROUP RIGHT NOW AND DO NOT, EVER, COME BACK.

>

> > dear kashyap, contact me personally ...

>

> Don't listen to him Kashyap. He has lost his mind.

>

> > affectionately

>

> Affection? My foot.

>

> > Jai Gurudev

>

> JAI GURUDEV.

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ashsish anurag tum log paagal ho gaye ho kya why the hell i would

write that, some one is misutilising my name and having lot of

funtime. until now pls show me a mail where i have despised any of

Gurudev's , atleast one of them, why do u react like that....

 

 

if u see the post its 303 pm and as iam iN US at that time i would be

sleeping...

 

besides the name should appear as birendra_m

and if u see the name appears in full...(birendra singh m)

 

so the mail to kashyap is not sent by me,pls be in ur senses ,pls dont

loose common sense,

 

i love Bade Gurudev, he is more than my life to me, i have atleast

the same bhakti to Bade Guurdev as u people have,

 

 

pls think and act why the hell would i write all this ,do u think that

iam gone mad or what

i understand ur peoples intention , iam not angry but only i want u

people to think and reeact after staying in 1 yr with the group

is this all u learnt abt me....

 

 

great maya is great u people are great...

 

iam staying in the group only out of my love for my Gurudev , and none

else , who ever wants to leave the group can leave or if they want to

remain will remain

 

 

pls understand my dear ones.

 

Jai Gurudev

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some one with access rights to the issp list has done this,

he has a very bad intention , Let God teach him a lesson,

 

people think they are smart, and its the same smartness that drags

them down! they dont realise that

 

 

who ever has misutilised my name, i leave it to Lord to what ever

action he wants to take ,i am for sure that this person is stupidest

person in the world, he is lost in maya...

 

 

if he thinks he is smart he gets a big zero from me, if the world

recognises his smartness he and the world go to hell...

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JAI GURUDEV

Birendra,

> ashsish anurag tum log paagal ho gaye ho kya

 

Nahin, Hum to nahin magar shaayad tum zaroor ho gaye ho.

> why the hell i would write that

 

That's I should be asking you. Why did you do that? Were you trying

to be a great philosopher who justifies commenting on his own guru.

> some one is misutilising my name and having lot of

> funtime.

 

Oh yeah! Someone is trying to defame you because you are the next

Prime Minister of India!!!

> until now pls show me a mail where i have despised any of

> Gurudev's , atleast one of them, why do u react like that....

 

Because I, also, did not see any message where some member of this

group is trying to defame another member.

> if u see the post its 303 pm and as iam iN US at that time

> i would be sleeping...

 

That's not enough to prove that you are innocent.

> besides the name should appear as birendra_m

> and if u see the name appears in full...(birendra singh m)

 

That's not a big deal.

> pls be in ur senses ,pls dont loose common sense

 

I am in my senses; but, apparently, you are not.

> do u think that iam gone mad

 

Yes, I am pretty sure about that.

> is this all u learnt abt me....

 

No. After this incident, I am sure, I have a lot more to learn about

you. Frankly speaking, I liked and respect you most in this group. I

used to think that you are a divine soul born on this planet to do

some good deeds. Unfortunately, I would never forgive you for what

you have done.

> iam staying in the group only out of my love for my Gurudev, and

> none else

 

None else? Are you refering to Trimurty Gurudevs? Please, leave nice

and easy otherwise I would get you thrown out of this group. If you

really love bade guruji, prove your love for him by leaving this

group and never returning. You have disgraced us all.

> who ever wants to leave the group can leave or if they want to

> remain will remain

 

No, no, no... You won't get rid of me that easy.

 

Ashish...

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Hi birendra,

 

before replying to birandra's mail i did observe the name

against the email ID to see if its the same birendra. I found that the name

was different but email ID's are same so i went ahead to write the email

thinking its birendra. Birendra denies that he hasn't done so rather someone

who has a wicked heart and has a know how of technology has done so. i don't

have that much insight in to internet technology as to see if its the work

of someone else.

 

Its possible that someone can hack in if someone hates birendra. I have

hated someone very much and was trying to see if i can hack in to that

persons account to give him a nice reply to whatever that person has done to

me but i never went about doing it. So if there is someone who hates

birendra a great deal then i guess that person can do this.

 

Birendra i have no other proof so on the grounds of benefit of doubt i do

forgive you.

Well i should say that person even forged the way you write. i will try to

hack down on that person.

 

 

In the the magazine one an article appeared abt a soul who got cursed to

burn in this universe irrespective of where that person goes. This person

while he was alive used to say bad words about Pujya Gurudev to one of his

disciples. Now and again that person said bad words about Pujya Gurudev to

that disciple. When that person died and its soul tried to enter the doors

of heaven or hell. He was denied entry to either or any other place by the

guards of that place saying that he has disgraced a divine soul. He was not

allowed to enter any of the places in the universe and hs soul started

started burning in this universe knowing not what to do he haunted some

person who was close to that disciple to whom he used to say bad words abt

Pujya Gurudev. This disciple has learnt from Pujya Gurudev hope to carte

evil spirits. When this disciple made this evil spirit talk he uttered out

the whole story and said that he no other go but to haunt this persons's

body so that you could come. He said that he had been told that only you

have the right to forgive him otherwise there is no other salvation for him.

This disciple of Pujya Gurudev gave him some punishments and said that he ha

forgiven him. Its only after that the came to peace and left the persons

body whom he was haunting.

 

Its not good to leave the group. This weekend even i was thinking of leaving

the group. i was feeling sorry i didn't dealt with that person (who

personified himself as birendra) more strongly.

 

 

Ashish lets try to investigate who is behind this and throw that person

away.

 

 

Regards,

Anurag

 

Jai Gurudev.

 

ps - I request ashish to join the group again and help in finding who did

this.

>

>birendra_m [birendra_m]

>Friday, January 25, 2002 8:31 PM

>

> Re: Divya Drishti Sadhna

>

>

>dear anurag amd ashish,

>

>tum log paagal ho gaye ho kya, Bade Gurudev is my love and my life

>why the hell i ll talk all this crap, why are u people getting into

>this maya stuff, some one has hacked into my account and send this

>mail, iam in US during the time the email was sent(303pm) i am in my

>house

>sleeping...

>

>

>some one in this group has got into my account becos my password is

>related to Gurudev so easy to hack, some one with a computer and

>lot of useless time and some stupid brain has who hates Gurudev has

>done this....

>

>

>

>ill get back to u shrotly

>

>

>Jai Gurudev

>

>

>

>, "nikhilashish" <nikhilashish> wrote:

>> Mr. Birendra Singh,

>>

>> > i do not at all agree. getting permission means paying

>> > for diksha. some might get angry ... pls do not mind.

>> > but take it as a fact... it really hurts to see someone

>> > in grave problem with a chit for diksha that he cant

>> > afford instead of a solution ... according to one of my

>> > masters only pseudogurus practice this. i dont know abt

>> > kailashji but in some ways it is greed

>>

>> Are you out of your mind? Who, the hell, do you think you are? How

>> dare you call Bade Gurudev and Trimurty Gurudevs greedy and

>> pseudogurus? Have you ever even met them? They are great and their

>> greatness does not need your or your master's certificate.

>>

>> As far as the money is concerned, everyone faces problems because of

>> bad karmas of this and past lives. By making him pay for diksha,

>> Guruji makes him pay for those karmas. Once the effect of bad karmas

>> is gone, all problems are sorted out with the help of the divine

>> energy transferred into sadhak by guruji. But, understanding this

>> stuff requires a brain, something, I'm sure, you don't have.

>>

>> > ... probably u may not agree with this... but i cant live

>> > with lies anymore.

>>

>> No, I do not and no real disciple of My Guruji would ever agree with

>> you. How could you write all that? If we all are liers, who do you

>> think you are; a saint. Damn you. You are no saint. You are a satan.

>> I really curse the day when I considered you my friend, my brother.

>> You are not even a human. If you can't live with this truth, you are

>> free to die.

>>

>> > either i must speak the truth or i will leave this group

>> > and never return ...

>>

>> This group belong to the disciples of bade guruji and trimurty

>> gurujis. There is no place here for anyone who dares to insult them.

>>

>> LEAVE THIS GROUP RIGHT NOW AND DO NOT, EVER, COME BACK.

>>

>> > dear kashyap, contact me personally ...

>>

>> Don't listen to him Kashyap. He has lost his mind.

>>

>> > affectionately

>>

>> Affection? My foot.

>>

>> > Jai Gurudev

>>

>> JAI GURUDEV.

>

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