Regarding psychic attacks...

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

I am Ravindranath from Bangalore. I was inclined towards occult

sciences and spirituality since I read the book practical palmistry

and practical hypnotism written by Sri. N D Shrimali. I have also

read few theosophical manuals from the Theosophical society, Adyar.

These have improved my general understanding on spiritual matters.

 

But my vexing problem is my elder sister (aged about 35 yrs) is

suffering from sleep disturbances for more than 15 years now. She

gets wild dreams which generally involve torture, mocking, hitting,

blowing fierce winds etc on her. She feels that a group of evil

spirits haunt her regularly and wakes up with frustrated and panic

state of mind. Somehow she has tolerated them all these years.

 

This had gone worse in the month of May 2001, when she felt that

these spirits are possessing her during her waking consciousness

also. I had to join her in a psychiatry hospital. Probably you know

that psychiatry does not believe in the existence of hidden side of

nature. They attribute it to chemical imbalance in brain and give

sedatives to cool down the nervous system. But now, at the end of

her medical course, she is again to the same state without any relief.

Because of this she is very tense and disturbed state of mind.

 

I also visited some astrologers, faith healers and other persons

within my reach and knowledge.

- Astrologers say that she has naaga dosha. And they suggest some

naga pooja.

- Priests of some temples say that she is haunted by some wicked

spirit and suggest some pooja. In fact I and my sister had performed

pooja as suggested. She is also wearing talismans given by the

priests.

 

- I also went to church as suggested by neighbours.

 

But all these efforts didn't seem to have much effect or any effect.

Even I wrote to mtyv for help regarding this, a month

ago. I got a reply once saying that the details of my sister are

required once again, which I obliged promptly. Afterwards, there is

no reply.

 

I tried on net finding help sites for psychic attacks. Here again,

there are people who claim to possess clairvoyant capabilities and

ability to trace the origin of these problems to past life, and

others who do clinical hypnosis, etc. But these things come at a

price (the western currency is a huge amount for us Indians). It is

not that I am not willing to spend. I have already spent a lot on

her clinical treatment.

 

Some sites also show documented proofs of :

a) past life reasons for psychic attacks

b) black magic

 

They indicate that Past life regression technique (going back into

the past of the subject's life through hypnotism to trace the

origin of such attack, and persuading the attacking spirit to leave

the subject).

 

 

But India being the country of origin for spiritual knowledge, I am

sure I will be able to find a noble soul that can help me overcome

this trouble.

 

Is there any one to help us in this. I have lot of queries and

anxiety. Anxiety because of her condition and queries because of

confusion with so many versions of diagnosis. One more important

observation is my another syster also had psychic attacks in a

different way (as if somebody is listening and retorting/mocking her

constantly, during her office hours). Almost both of my sisters are

affected simultaneously. Unfortunately, the later is no more now.

 

i. Is it possible that somebody has cast black magic? If so, will it

be sustained for a very long period of more than 15 years.

 

ii. Is it some wandering spirit that has caught them and torturing

for nothing (or fun).

 

iii. Any trauma in the past (this or previous life) is resulting in

this kind of sleep disturbances? If so, then only one of my sisters

should have been affected.

 

 

Is there a way out of this situation....

 

Please help.

 

ravindranath

[Guest guest]

hi ravindra nath,

My name is M.Birendra Singh,

i feel that i can do something for u, can u personally contact me at

birendra_m

and give me 1 week of time, ill get back to u as to what i want to

do, meant time you can write to me wiht anything further u want to

tell in person, ill reply please have faith in the lord, i believe

that everything will be ok

 

 

Take care

[Guest guest]

hi ravindra nath,

My name is M.Birendra Singh,

i feel that i can do something for u, can u personally contact me at

birendra_m

and give me 1 week of time, ill get back to u as to what i want to

do, meant time you can write to me wiht anything further u want to

tell in person, ill reply please have faith in the lord, i believe

that everything will be ok

 

 

Take care

[Guest guest]

Hi Ravi,

 

Biru will be able to help u out but in addition to that i suggest

you to write about all this to Jodhpur Gurudham. Gurudev can look in to this

why exactly these things are happening. He will provide you with the right

solution. I suggest you to take a print out of Pujya Gurudev's Photograph

from internet and install with full devotion in every room of your house. My

experiences say if one loves him with true heart then it can never happen

that he won't come to ones rescue.

 

I suggest every member of this group to pray to Pujya Gurudev or their Ishta

Devtaas for the well being of the sisters of Ravindra. I don't if the

simultaneous prayers of ours will have more effect.

 

Ravi i think due to long duration of attacks we can't assign much priority

to someone doing black magic on her. But one can never know if there is some

fanatic than he can do this for this long time too.

 

It can be any of the three reasons that you have provided.

 

In the magazine i have come across some sadhanas to nullify the effect of

Muth Prayog but it can't be muth prayog because its very very intense. Even

then i will search for this mantra and send it to you. Give me your postal

address. I will take a photostat of that

and post it to you.

 

 

If your sisters are spiritually inclined and can have inclination towards

taking diksha from pujya gurudev then i suggest you to do this. Then they

themselves can chant Guru Mantra, Cheitanya Mantra and Gayatri Mantra. There

is no mantra grater than Guru Mantra its a universal solution to all

problems. Cheitanya Mantra will give them mental and physical strength and

divine energy to fight the evil and recitation of Gayatri Mantra Mantra will

nullify the effects of previous births.

 

Members of the list who have kavachs to ward off evils can share them with

ravindra.

 

don't worry ravindra many of the disciples of Pujya Gurudev are qualified

enough to ward off such evils. Also keep wirtting to Guru Dham don't give

up.

 

luv,

Anurag

 

 

>

>rv_nath [rv_nath]

>Sunday, January 20, 2002 2:33 AM

>

> Regarding psychic attacks...

>

>

>Hi,

>

>I am Ravindranath from Bangalore. I was inclined towards occult

>sciences and spirituality since I read the book practical palmistry

>and practical hypnotism written by Sri. N D Shrimali. I have also

>read few theosophical manuals from the Theosophical society, Adyar.

>These have improved my general understanding on spiritual matters.

>

>But my vexing problem is my elder sister (aged about 35 yrs) is

>suffering from sleep disturbances for more than 15 years now. She

>gets wild dreams which generally involve torture, mocking, hitting,

>blowing fierce winds etc on her. She feels that a group of evil

>spirits haunt her regularly and wakes up with frustrated and panic

>state of mind. Somehow she has tolerated them all these years.

>

>This had gone worse in the month of May 2001, when she felt that

>these spirits are possessing her during her waking consciousness

>also. I had to join her in a psychiatry hospital. Probably you know

>that psychiatry does not believe in the existence of hidden side of

>nature. They attribute it to chemical imbalance in brain and give

>sedatives to cool down the nervous system. But now, at the end of

>her medical course, she is again to the same state without any relief.

>Because of this she is very tense and disturbed state of mind.

>

>I also visited some astrologers, faith healers and other persons

>within my reach and knowledge.

> - Astrologers say that she has naaga dosha. And they suggest some

>naga pooja.

> - Priests of some temples say that she is haunted by some wicked

>spirit and suggest some pooja. In fact I and my sister had performed

>pooja as suggested. She is also wearing talismans given by the

>priests.

>

> - I also went to church as suggested by neighbours.

>

>But all these efforts didn't seem to have much effect or any effect.

>Even I wrote to mtyv for help regarding this, a month

>ago. I got a reply once saying that the details of my sister are

>required once again, which I obliged promptly. Afterwards, there is

>no reply.

>

>I tried on net finding help sites for psychic attacks. Here again,

>there are people who claim to possess clairvoyant capabilities and

>ability to trace the origin of these problems to past life, and

>others who do clinical hypnosis, etc. But these things come at a

>price (the western currency is a huge amount for us Indians). It is

>not that I am not willing to spend. I have already spent a lot on

>her clinical treatment.

>

>Some sites also show documented proofs of :

>a) past life reasons for psychic attacks

>b) black magic

>

>They indicate that Past life regression technique (going back into

>the past of the subject's life through hypnotism to trace the

>origin of such attack, and persuading the attacking spirit to leave

>the subject).

>

>

>But India being the country of origin for spiritual knowledge, I am

>sure I will be able to find a noble soul that can help me overcome

>this trouble.

>

>Is there any one to help us in this. I have lot of queries and

>anxiety. Anxiety because of her condition and queries because of

>confusion with so many versions of diagnosis. One more important

>observation is my another syster also had psychic attacks in a

>different way (as if somebody is listening and retorting/mocking her

>constantly, during her office hours). Almost both of my sisters are

>affected simultaneously. Unfortunately, the later is no more now.

>

>i. Is it possible that somebody has cast black magic? If so, will it

>be sustained for a very long period of more than 15 years.

>

>ii. Is it some wandering spirit that has caught them and torturing

>for nothing (or fun).

>

>iii. Any trauma in the past (this or previous life) is resulting in

>this kind of sleep disturbances? If so, then only one of my sisters

>should have been affected.

>

>

>Is there a way out of this situation....

>

>Please help.

>

>ravindranath

>

>

>

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, "rv_nath" <rv_nath> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I am Ravindranath from Bangalore.

>

> Is there a way out of this situation....

dear brother,

first i am not a realized soul. i am ordinary human being like you, i

cannot dare to say that whati say will help her cure herself totally.

but i believe it will. please do whatever anyone who is spiritually

realized suggests

 

i can only suggest a few points which will help,

 

1) get her to chant 4 mala guru mantra 1 mala chetna +1 mala gayatri

daily. but faith to a new guru does not happen just like that, i

suggest that she do this routine facing east twice daily. i also

suggest that personally recommend keeping a picture of shiv /your

family deity/ guruji near her. all the time with a lamp burnt for all

waking hours in her room-it can also be a simple candle, if she goes

somewhere she should do a pranaam and say that she is going and be

protected. the moment she is back, the first thing she should do is

light the lamp and pray. she will have to develop a habit of praying

to for forgiveness, and that she may be absolved of these things.

 

 

 

there is a particular kavach pertaining to shiva i chant which i have

got by the grace of our gurudev, and have found very useful. it is

swayam sidh and i recommend that she chnats it, 3 times morning and 3

times before she sleeps. she should also keep a copy and chant it as

and when she feels afraid. do you read devnagari sanskrit if yes, i

will scan it and send it to you.if not i ewill type it inenglish and

post it for you, but i am very busy for a week please excuse...you can

also do the same for her daily mentally meditating that you are

sending her strength and protection, and so can other members of the

family. let me know if you want it...

 

 

i also recommend that she chants some mantra all the time, it can be

guru mantra, it can be aum namah shivay and buying a fews cassettes of

cahnts will help. i have found sacred chants of shiva by art of living

foundation very useful. play it when she is about to sleep. i also

found mahamrityunjaya by shubha mudgal, and guru matra (available only

at delhi or jodhpur..) very useful

 

2) what does your sister do from morning to evening? what is her daily

activity? ask her to keep a record of every half an hour. it has to be

spent in a way that is constructive. it can be praying, it can be

reading a good book, it can be laughing AND JOKING,it can be cleaning

utensils while chanting a mantra of a deity that appeals to her, she

has to put in maximum activity in her day, the more productive it is

the better. teaching/playing with small children, learning musuc

anything that will put her mind of this spirit business. i think any

sicial asservice that appeals to her, if done by her will help

trmendously she can teach poor kids for e.g. she can voluteer to do

some seva in the local temple, anything that appeals to her.

 

3) then she as well as you have to monitor your thougts, remember one

thing, the more fear you allow in your head, the more will these

things gain control. the moment your/her head gets the idea that she

is being haaunted, replace it with the idea that she is strong that

God(to me shiv) or guruji is protecting her, vizualize him vizualise

his feet, bow down to them, take deep breaths chant a mantra let

go....

this mat haave to be done 10000 times day, do it slowly she will gain

strength, slowly she will recover.

 

all ghosts or tantric prayogs effect your mind through the

subconscious, the only solution is making the conscious and will

stronger. please stop discussing with each other her and all how

helpless the situation is, you really can cure it, have faith in the

almighty.

 

anything that makes the conscious stronger will help. even simple

anasaa and yoga will,. she has to consciously choose what she is doing

again and again and not let her tendencies (may be coming from the

spirits take over...)

 

i know it is easier said than done, i really feel sorry for her and

you BUT please make an honest attempt. the secret does not lie in

going here or there or doiing this pooja and that pooja, no doubt they

help. BUt true recovery occurs when you take charge of your actions

and your thoughts.

 

i can say this because i have faced similar things on a smaller scale

perhaps...

good wishes

jai GURUDEV

 

anu

[Guest guest]

Thank you Devi bhagat.

I am trying to do whatever I can...

regards.

 

, "devi_bhagat" <devi_bhagat> wrote:

> , "rv_nath" <rv_nath> wrote:

> > Hi,

> >

> > I am Ravindranath from Bangalore.

> >

> > Is there a way out of this situation....

> dear brother,

> first i am not a realized soul. i am ordinary human being like you,

i

> cannot dare to say that whati say will help her cure herself

totally.

> but i believe it will. please do whatever anyone who is spiritually

> realized suggests

>

> i can only suggest a few points which will help,

>

> 1) get her to chant 4 mala guru mantra 1 mala chetna +1 mala

gayatri

> daily. but faith to a new guru does not happen just like that, i

> suggest that she do this routine facing east twice daily. i also

> suggest that personally recommend keeping a picture of shiv /your

> family deity/ guruji near her. all the time with a lamp burnt for

all

> waking hours in her room-it can also be a simple candle, if she

goes

> somewhere she should do a pranaam and say that she is going and be

> protected. the moment she is back, the first thing she should do is

> light the lamp and pray. she will have to develop a habit of

praying

> to for forgiveness, and that she may be absolved of these things.

>

>

>

> there is a particular kavach pertaining to shiva i chant which i

have

> got by the grace of our gurudev, and have found very useful. it is

> swayam sidh and i recommend that she chnats it, 3 times morning and

3

> times before she sleeps. she should also keep a copy and chant it

as

> and when she feels afraid. do you read devnagari sanskrit if yes, i

> will scan it and send it to you.if not i ewill type it inenglish

and

> post it for you, but i am very busy for a week please excuse...you

can

> also do the same for her daily mentally meditating that you are

> sending her strength and protection, and so can other members of

the

> family. let me know if you want it...

>

>

> i also recommend that she chants some mantra all the time, it can

be

> guru mantra, it can be aum namah shivay and buying a fews cassettes

of

> cahnts will help. i have found sacred chants of shiva by art of

living

> foundation very useful. play it when she is about to sleep. i also

> found mahamrityunjaya by shubha mudgal, and guru matra (available

only

> at delhi or jodhpur..) very useful

>

> 2) what does your sister do from morning to evening? what is her

daily

> activity? ask her to keep a record of every half an hour. it has to

be

> spent in a way that is constructive. it can be praying, it can be

> reading a good book, it can be laughing AND JOKING,it can be

cleaning

> utensils while chanting a mantra of a deity that appeals to her,

she

> has to put in maximum activity in her day, the more productive it

is

> the better. teaching/playing with small children, learning musuc

> anything that will put her mind of this spirit business. i think

any

> sicial asservice that appeals to her, if done by her will help

> trmendously she can teach poor kids for e.g. she can voluteer to do

> some seva in the local temple, anything that appeals to her.

>

> 3) then she as well as you have to monitor your thougts, remember

one

> thing, the more fear you allow in your head, the more will these

> things gain control. the moment your/her head gets the idea that

she

> is being haaunted, replace it with the idea that she is strong that

> God(to me shiv) or guruji is protecting her, vizualize him

vizualise

> his feet, bow down to them, take deep breaths chant a mantra let

> go....

> this mat haave to be done 10000 times day, do it slowly she will

gain

> strength, slowly she will recover.

>

> all ghosts or tantric prayogs effect your mind through the

> subconscious, the only solution is making the conscious and will

> stronger. please stop discussing with each other her and all how

> helpless the situation is, you really can cure it, have faith in

the

> almighty.

>

> anything that makes the conscious stronger will help. even simple

> anasaa and yoga will,. she has to consciously choose what she is

doing

> again and again and not let her tendencies (may be coming from the

> spirits take over...)

>

> i know it is easier said than done, i really feel sorry for her and

> you BUT please make an honest attempt. the secret does not lie in

> going here or there or doiing this pooja and that pooja, no doubt

they

> help. BUt true recovery occurs when you take charge of your actions

> and your thoughts.

>

> i can say this because i have faced similar things on a smaller

scale

> perhaps...

> good wishes

> jai GURUDEV

>

> anu

[bobbydeb 0]

Hi Ravindranath,

 

Did you ever find solution to your sisters problem? I am suffering from similar problem for past 5 yrs, only thing is its a combination of what both ur sisters faced, as u mentioned. Ran from post to pillars in India but all in vain. If you found solution, will appreciate a lot if you can share it man!!

 

Regards,

Deb