Guest guest Report post Posted October 4, 2001 I just heard in place of using diffrent mantras in diffrent sadhanas you can use GURU MANTRA or GAYATRI MANTRA in their place. what is the procedure? please mail me at pranay_kum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 4, 2001 JAI GURUDEV Dear Pranay, > I just heard in place of using diffrent mantras in diffrent > sadhanas you can use GURU MANTRA or GAYATRI MANTRA in their > place. what is the procedure? As far as I know, this is NOT allowed. Every mantra has it's own sound, it's own significance. Each sadhana has it's own dimension since life is multi-dimensional and one can't be replaced with other. Guru Mantra is very versatile and Guru Sadhana can be used to tackle almost all situations, but still, you are not allowed to manipulate any sadhana's procedure on your own. Have a nice day. Ashish... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 4, 2001 , "Ashish Marathe" <nikhilashish> wrote: > > sadhanas you can use GURU MANTRA or GAYATRI MANTRA in their > As far as I know, this is NOT allowed. Every mantra has it's own Jai Gurudev. I too agree. Each Sadhana has its own mantras, yantra and specific process. U cant just replace the deity mantra with Guru Mantra. However, for maximum benefit, you may enclose the specific deity mantra within Guru Mantra by chanting 1 mala of Guru Mantra both before and after the deity's mantra. This will enhance the power of deity/sadhana Mantra. > a dakshinavarti shankh overnight one retains his youth and beauty goto http://www.siddhashram.org/s20000529.shtml > How to wear parad mudrika for the same abovementioned purpose read article in mtyv July 2000 issue Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 4, 2001 , "Ashish Marathe" <nikhilashish> wrote: > JAI GURUDEV > Dear Pranay, > > > I just heard in place of using diffrent mantras in diffrent > > sadhanas you can use GURU MANTRA or GAYATRI MANTRA in their > > place. what is the procedure? > > As far as I know, this is NOT allowed. Every mantra has it's own > sound, it's own significance. Each sadhana has it's own dimension > since life is multi-dimensional and one can't be replaced with other. > > Guru Mantra is very versatile and Guru Sadhana can be used to tackle > almost all situations, but still, you are not allowed to manipulate > any sadhana's procedure on your own. > > Have a nice day. Dear AAshish Thanks for the quick reply .Dear ashish,Do you allow me to argue at one point .GURU is the sum total of all the Gods and in GURU GEETA it says " MANTRA MOOLAM GURU VAKYAM" (GURU MANTRA IS THE ROOT OF ALL THE MANTRAS )and wont GURU bless us with SIDHHI on any mantra if we repeat the GURU MANTRA alone. now you confuse me totally dear please do reply. I really await your reply pal JAI GURUDEV Pranay > > Ashish... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 4, 2001 , desi_videshi wrote: > , "Ashish Marathe" <nikhilashish> wrote: > > > sadhanas you can use GURU MANTRA or GAYATRI MANTRA in their > > As far as I know, this is NOT allowed. Every mantra has it's own > > Jai Gurudev. > I too agree. Each Sadhana has its own mantras, yantra and specific > process. U cant just replace the deity mantra with Guru Mantra. > However, for maximum benefit, you may enclose the specific deity > mantra within Guru Mantra by chanting 1 mala of Guru Mantra both > before and after the deity's mantra. This will enhance the power of > deity/sadhana Mantra. > > > > a dakshinavarti shankh overnight one retains his youth and beauty > > goto http://www.siddhashram.org/s20000529.shtml > > > How to wear parad mudrika for the same abovementioned purpose > > read article in mtyv July 2000 issue Dear pal , Thanks for the prompt.reply.can you also tell how to encapsule a mantra with GURU MANTRA does the procedure infuse life into the chanted mantra .say if you have sidha the GURU MANTRA alone will it make the chanted mantra chaitanya.thanx for the reply for dakshinavarti shankha i am visiting the link right now.and thanks i have loads of MTYV in my house i will find out the july 2000 issue and may i know my freinds name please? JAI GURUDEV. Pranay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 4, 2001 , desi_videshi wrote: > , "Ashish Marathe" <nikhilashish> wrote: > > > sadhanas you can use GURU MANTRA or GAYATRI MANTRA in their > > As far as I know, this is NOT allowed. Every mantra has it's own > > Jai Gurudev. > I too agree. Each Sadhana has its own mantras, yantra and specific > process. U cant just replace the deity mantra with Guru Mantra. > However, for maximum benefit, you may enclose the specific deity > mantra within Guru Mantra by chanting 1 mala of Guru Mantra both > before and after the deity's mantra. This will enhance the power of > deity/sadhana Mantra. > > > > a dakshinavarti shankh overnight one retains his youth and beauty > > goto http://www.siddhashram.org/s20000529.shtml > > > How to wear parad mudrika for the same abovementioned purpose > > read article in mtyv July 2000 issue Dear freind you have mentioned about encapsulating the mantras with the GURU MANTRA how do you do it .say i have to repeat 10 malas of any mantra every day ,now do i chant only one mala of the GURU MANTRA before and after the total 10 malas or 1 mala before and after every mala.please do reply JAI GURUDEV Pranay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 4, 2001 JAI GURUDEV Dear Pranay, > GURU is the sum total of all the Gods and in GURU GEETA it says " > MANTRA MOOLAM GURU VAKYAM" (GURU MANTRA IS THE ROOT OF ALL THE > MANTRAS )and wont GURU bless us with SIDHHI on any mantra > if we repeat the GURU MANTRA alone. now you confuse me totally Very true. Just as most of our surroundings come from nature like food, clothes, air, water, furniture etc. Then, why not use any one of these for all purposes. How about eating air, drinking air, wearing air and living in air? Moreover, all of your body is made of same substance, then why use your eyes to see, nose to smell, mouth to speak and eat etc. Why not use any one organ for all works? I hope you now understand that every mantra, every thing; though originated from a single source, has it's own unique, non-negotiable function; it's own unique, non-negotiable importance. Have a great day. Ashish... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 4, 2001 JAI GURUDEV Dear Pranay, > you have mentioned about encapsulating the mantras with the > GURU MANTRA how do you do it .say i have to repeat 10 malas of any > mantra every day ,now do i chant only one mala of the GURU MANTRA > before and after the total 10 malas or 1 mala before and after > every mala. To encapsulate any mantra with Guru Mantra, first chant 1 mala of Guru Mantra, then chant the desired number of any mantra and lastly, chant 1 mala of Guru Mantra again. Hope it helps. Ashish... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 5, 2001 Jay Gurudev Dear Pranay Just relax. Whatever has been told till now by Ashish and Arvind is very correct. In a step by step procedure, it is like this that - In mornig you are supposed to perform Guru Pujan i.e. 4 rosary of Guru Mantra, 1 rosary of Chetna Mantra and 1 rosary of Gayatri Mantra (for pujan procedure you can go according to Dainik Sadhna Vidhi book) - If you have to perform any other sadhna in the morning itself, you can immediately start that after guru pujan. Chant to appropriate round of rosary of particular sadhna and after finishing that sadhna chant 1 rosary of Guru Mantra again. - If you are performing sadhna any other time like in night or evening, before starting any sadhna chant 1 rosary of Guru Mantra first and then do the particular sadhna and then again chant 1 rosary of Guru Mantra. Chanting more and more Guru Mantra is always good. In your free time you can chant Guru Mantra or whenever, wherever you feel you can go for mansik jap of guru mantra. I think this is enough to clear your doubts. Jay Gurudev Charanjit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 5, 2001 Jaya Guru Dev Pranaya's line is on Durlavopanishad and he is correct. There are many prerequisites or prequalifications to eb able to do GUru Sadhana and yes, thru Guru Sadhana you can attain all siddhis. Pls liston to Durlavopanishad Cassette in Param Pujya Guru Dev's Bani. If you believe you can attain that level. Yes Guru Siddhi will give you all 53 (?) siddhis in the world. Japa Tapa Tiratha Samyama (Sadhana) Dhyana bibidh ke je Guru bina Gyana Nahowe, Koti yatana kije Jaya Guru Dev bishnu Global Medicine Pvt. Ltd., 3/555 Harihar Bhavan P. O. Box 5659, Kathmandu, Nepal Fax 977 1 523282, Phone 977 1 528372 - <pranay_kum <> Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:51 AM Re: uses of GURU MANTRA > , "Ashish Marathe" <nikhilashish> wrote: > > JAI GURUDEV > > Dear Pranay, > > > > > I just heard in place of using diffrent mantras in diffrent > > > sadhanas you can use GURU MANTRA or GAYATRI MANTRA in their > > > place. what is the procedure? > > > > As far as I know, this is NOT allowed. Every mantra has it's own > > sound, it's own significance. Each sadhana has it's own dimension > > since life is multi-dimensional and one can't be replaced with > other. > > > > Guru Mantra is very versatile and Guru Sadhana can be used to > tackle > > almost all situations, but still, you are not allowed to manipulate > > any sadhana's procedure on your own. > > > > Have a nice day. > > Dear AAshish > Thanks for the quick reply .Dear ashish,Do you allow me to > argue at one point .GURU is the sum total of all the Gods and in GURU > GEETA it says " MANTRA MOOLAM GURU VAKYAM" (GURU MANTRA IS THE ROOT > OF ALL THE MANTRAS )and wont GURU bless us with SIDHHI on any mantra > if we repeat the GURU MANTRA alone. now you confuse me totally dear > please do reply. I really await your reply pal > JAI GURUDEV > Pranay > > > > Ashish... > > > > > Jay Gurudev > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 5, 2001 Dear Pranay > > Guru Mantra is very versatile and Guru Sadhana can be used to > tackle > > almost all situations, but still, you are not allowed to manipulate > > any sadhana's procedure on your own. Ashish was trying to tell you that Guru Mantra is a different issue and sadhanas of various dieties is totally another issue, he means to tell that sadhana procedure for a particlar diety has a its own unique mantra and its intended effect... if you sway away from procedure,results dont come...(spiritually scientific...) so we cant manipulate it. but to solve the same problem i believe that you can just chant Guru Mantram and get it solved instead of doing the whole procedure. As Bishnuji said of Durlabhoupnishad.... Its matter of faith in the path and idealogies that we believe.... the beauty of this world is diversity.... so everyone has choosen his own path.... so everyone is right in his own sense if he follows any of the path told by Shastharas or Gurudev if i am there i defenitely would not go any where beyond GURU Mantra for any of my problem solutions(immaterial of whether the problem is getting solved or not), such is my belief in Guru and GuruMantra. But at the same time i appreciate the beauty of other dieties and sadhanas ,as all are part of Gurudev, so even we can do sadhanas thinking diety as part of Gurudev..... >GURU is the sum total of all the Gods i believe only this principle. > and in GURU > GEETA it says " MANTRA MOOLAM GURU VAKYAM" (GURU MANTRA IS THE ROOT > OF ALL THE MANTRAS ) The right interpetation of this shloka in Guru Gita is..... SHLOKA FOLLOWS.... dhyanamulam¸ gurormoorti² poojamoolam¸ guro² padam | mantramoolam¸ gurorvakya¸ mokshamoolam¸ guro² kripah || INTERPRATATION FOLLOWS.... The form of Guru is the root of meditation. The feet of Guru are the root of worship. THE TEACHING OF THE GURU IS THE ROOT OF ALL MANTRAS. The Grace of Guru is the root of Salvation. This interpretation is of a realised soul, if i come across a different interpreatation from some other realised soul ill try to post it... >and wont GURU bless us with SIDHHI on any mantra > if we repeat the GURU MANTRA alone. bishnuji has repiled , and i too tried to reply... still if you have doubts post it.... >now you confuse me totally dear > please do reply. I really await your reply pal i hope you dont have any consfusion now... though iam not ashish but still replying. Nice to learn that you are reading/following GURU GEETA. Dont worry you cant remain confused. As a matter of fact i believe in the down slokha given in GURU GITA... saptakothimahamantra cittavibhramakaraka | eka eva mahamantro gururityaksharadvayam || The seven crores of great Mantras are all for the bewilderment of the mind. There is only one great Mantra, the two-lettered word "Gu-ru." For me the 2 lettered word is everything to me... iam lost in the 2 lettered ocean, i just cant think of going beyond this 2 letter word ,forget about the whole Guru Mantra. (i mean to say that 2 lettered word is itself sufficient to merge me in that infinity, you dont even in fact require the whole Guru Mantra) Warm Regards and best wishes love Jai Gurudev.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 5, 2001 , "birendra singh m" <birendra_m> wrote: > Dear Pranay > > > > Guru Mantra is very versatile and Guru Sadhana can be used to > > tackle > > > almost all situations, but still, you are not allowed to > manipulate > > > any sadhana's procedure on your own. > > > > Ashish was trying to tell you that Guru Mantra is a different issue > and sadhanas of various dieties is totally another issue, he means to > tell that sadhana procedure for a particlar diety has a its own unique > mantra and its intended effect... if you sway away from > procedure,results dont come...(spiritually scientific...) > so we cant manipulate it. Thanx for the so freindly reply pal i too respect other deities and believe that mantra is a science but instead of begging to other deities why dont we depend on Guru Kripa alone.It wll give us Bhoga as well as Moksha.after all after of 1000's of births of striving one gets a SADGURU. when one knows the Emperor why to go to a Minister. I beg my pardon to other deities BUT ARENT THEY PARTS AND PARCEL OF THE GURU MANDALA ITSELF after all how can you divide something AKHANDA MANDALAKAR into finite parts Havent you seen the universal Being picture in MTYV. JAI GURUDEV. Pranay > > but to solve the same problem i believe that you can just chant Guru > Mantram and get it solved instead of doing the whole procedure. > > As Bishnuji said of Durlabhoupnishad.... > Its matter of faith in the path and idealogies that we believe.... > > the beauty of this world is diversity.... > so everyone has choosen his own path.... so everyone is right in his > own sense if he follows any of the path told by Shastharas or Gurudev > > if i am there i defenitely would not go any where beyond GURU Mantra > for any of my problem solutions(immaterial of whether the problem is > getting solved or not), such is my belief in Guru and GuruMantra. > > But at the same time i appreciate the beauty of other dieties and > sadhanas ,as all are part of Gurudev, so even we can do sadhanas > thinking diety as part of Gurudev..... > > > > > > > > >GURU is the sum total of all the Gods > > i believe only this principle. > > > > and in GURU > > GEETA it says " MANTRA MOOLAM GURU VAKYAM" (GURU MANTRA IS THE ROOT > > OF ALL THE MANTRAS ) > > The right interpetation of this shloka in Guru Gita is..... > > SHLOKA FOLLOWS.... > dhyanamulam¸ gurormoorti² poojamoolam¸ guro² padam | > mantramoolam¸ gurorvakya¸ mokshamoolam¸ guro² kripah || > > INTERPRATATION FOLLOWS.... > > The form of Guru is the root of meditation. The feet of Guru are the > root of worship. THE TEACHING OF THE GURU IS THE ROOT OF ALL MANTRAS. > The Grace of Guru is the root of Salvation. > > This interpretation is of a realised soul, if i come across a > different interpreatation from some other realised soul ill try to > post it... > > > > > >and wont GURU bless us with SIDHHI on any mantra > > if we repeat the GURU MANTRA alone. > > bishnuji has repiled , and i too tried to reply... > still if you have doubts post it.... > > > > >now you confuse me totally dear > > please do reply. I really await your reply pal > > i hope you dont have any consfusion now... > though iam not ashish but still replying. > Nice to learn that you are reading/following GURU GEETA. > Dont worry you cant remain confused. > > > As a matter of fact i believe in the down slokha given in GURU GITA... > > saptakothimahamantra cittavibhramakaraka | > eka eva mahamantro gururityaksharadvayam || > > The seven crores of great Mantras are all for the bewilderment of the > mind. There is only > one great Mantra, the two-lettered word "Gu-ru." > > For me the 2 lettered word is everything to me... > iam lost in the 2 lettered ocean, > i just cant think of going beyond this 2 letter word ,forget about the > whole Guru Mantra. > (i mean to say that 2 lettered word is itself sufficient to merge me > in that infinity, > you dont even in fact require the whole Guru Mantra) > > > Warm Regards and best wishes > love > Jai Gurudev.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 5, 2001 , "C Kumar" <ckumar99> wrote: > Jay Gurudev > Dear Pranay > > Just relax. Whatever has been told till now by Ashish and Arvind is > very correct. In a step by step procedure, it is like this that > - In mornig you are supposed to perform Guru Pujan i.e. 4 rosary of > Guru Mantra, 1 rosary of Chetna Mantra and 1 rosary of Gayatri Mantra > (for pujan procedure you can go according to Dainik Sadhna Vidhi book) > - If you have to perform any other sadhna in the morning itself, you > can immediately start that after guru pujan. Chant to appropriate > round of rosary of particular sadhna and after finishing that sadhna > chant 1 rosary of Guru Mantra again. > - If you are performing sadhna any other time like in night or > evening, before starting any sadhna chant 1 rosary of Guru Mantra > first and then do the particular sadhna and then again chant 1 rosary > of Guru Mantra. > > Chanting more and more Guru Mantra is always good. In your free time > you can chant Guru Mantra or whenever, wherever you feel you can go > for mansik jap of guru mantra. > > I think this is enough to clear your doubts. > > Jay Gurudev > Charanjit Thanx Charanjit you have cleared all my doubts .Can you also tell me something about a book called GURU YAMAL TANTRA and where to get it. JAI GURUDEV Pranay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
