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Dear Gurubhai's,

Jai Gurudev!

I have a question: is it less powerful or useful to have Guru Diksha

from Trimurti Gurudevs than from SatGurudev, since he isn't

physically present now?

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Jai Gurudev

 

Dear Brother,

There is no difference in taking Guru Diksha from Trimurti Gurudevs

or from Sadgurudev. There is nothing like less or more powerful, the

shaktipat is shaktipat and Sad Gurudev himself has given charge to

Trimurti Gurudevs before leaving his physical body.

 

Jai Gurudev

Charanjit

 

, creativezeal@h... wrote:

> Dear Gurubhai's,

> Jai Gurudev!

> I have a question: is it less powerful or useful to have Guru

Diksha

> from Trimurti Gurudevs than from SatGurudev, since he isn't

> physically present now?

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Jai Gurudev,

Your query is a normal query which any new person is bound to ask.

However, u need to realise that Diksha is a continuation of

relationship of soul with Guru-tatva. The soul is eternal, and

changes bodies through various births.

Pujya Trimurti Gurudevs were elevated into Gurupad in 1993, and they

have been granting Diksha since. In many Sadhana Camps, both

SadGurudev and Trimurti Gurudevs have granted Diksha.

So, u need not be concerned about physical frame. The same Divine

energy flows thru pujya Trimurti Gurudevs.

Many instances have been published in mag when sadhaks have "seen"

form of SadGurudev merging together with Trimurti Gurudevs, during

Diksha, or during the Sadhana camps. It is the logical continuation.

You will receive same benefit by taking Diksha from pujya Trimurti

Gurudevs.

 

However, beware of the newly-fangled, copycat Gurus who are

profilerating in the society today. I am ashamed to admit it, but

some of our own fellow-disciples have declared themselves as Guru at

various places, and started giving Diksha, printing mag etc. to

achieve petty financial gains. These newbies have NOT been authorised

by Sadgurudev or Trimurti Gurudevs to grant Diksha etc. But then,

some people will do anything to make money, and misguiding others in

name of religion is a very easy task ! It is highly tempting to

inflate one's ego and think of oneself as a God after achieving

success in a few Sadhanas.

 

Moroever, it will not be totally accurate to say that "Gurudev isn't

physically present now"

Gurudev is always present whenever a disciple calls out to Him. It

might sound childish, but it is a fact. This relationship is founded

on trust and faith. Invoking Gurudev's name whenever in trouble is a

sureshot way to solve problem. If you perform Guru Sadhana in early

morning (brahmamuhurath) with full faith and conviction, then you

will yourself experience His presence. You can try it out yourself.

However, u need to have full faith & trust. Start doing it every

morning, and within few weeks , u will realise it.

Jai Gurudev

 

, creativezeal@h... wrote:

> Dear Gurubhai's,

> Jai Gurudev!

> I have a question: is it less powerful or useful to have Guru

Diksha

> from Trimurti Gurudevs than from SatGurudev, since he isn't

> physically present now?

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Very true Ashish. Yes Trimurti Pujya Gurudev and Gurudev used to give

Diksha in the same shivir. Pujya Gurudev gae them whatever was needed to

become a spiritual teacher to Trimurti Pujya Guurdev. And gurudev has said

that its not that they have a right to become Guru as they r my sons.

Any disciple of mine who follows me seriously and has the true intent will

have the right to become a spiritual leader.

 

Whoever becomes a disciple he is a disciple of Pujya Gurudev.

 

This body is like a cloth. Pujya Gurudev is still there in the universe

though in someother form. He will come to you if you call him in true

love and for the want of true knowledge.

 

He has said just give 6 months of sincere devotion and i will make you

someone.

 

luv,

 

 

On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 arvind_sharma wrote:

> Jai Gurudev,

> Your query is a normal query which any new person is bound to ask.

> However, u need to realise that Diksha is a continuation of

> relationship of soul with Guru-tatva. The soul is eternal, and

> changes bodies through various births.

> Pujya Trimurti Gurudevs were elevated into Gurupad in 1993, and they

> have been granting Diksha since. In many Sadhana Camps, both

> SadGurudev and Trimurti Gurudevs have granted Diksha.

> So, u need not be concerned about physical frame. The same Divine

> energy flows thru pujya Trimurti Gurudevs.

> Many instances have been published in mag when sadhaks have "seen"

> form of SadGurudev merging together with Trimurti Gurudevs, during

> Diksha, or during the Sadhana camps. It is the logical continuation.

> You will receive same benefit by taking Diksha from pujya Trimurti

> Gurudevs.

>

> However, beware of the newly-fangled, copycat Gurus who are

> profilerating in the society today. I am ashamed to admit it, but

> some of our own fellow-disciples have declared themselves as Guru at

> various places, and started giving Diksha, printing mag etc. to

> achieve petty financial gains. These newbies have NOT been authorised

> by Sadgurudev or Trimurti Gurudevs to grant Diksha etc. But then,

> some people will do anything to make money, and misguiding others in

> name of religion is a very easy task ! It is highly tempting to

> inflate one's ego and think of oneself as a God after achieving

> success in a few Sadhanas.

>

> Moroever, it will not be totally accurate to say that "Gurudev isn't

> physically present now"

> Gurudev is always present whenever a disciple calls out to Him. It

> might sound childish, but it is a fact. This relationship is founded

> on trust and faith. Invoking Gurudev's name whenever in trouble is a

> sureshot way to solve problem. If you perform Guru Sadhana in early

> morning (brahmamuhurath) with full faith and conviction, then you

> will yourself experience His presence. You can try it out yourself.

> However, u need to have full faith & trust. Start doing it every

> morning, and within few weeks , u will realise it.

> Jai Gurudev

>

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Arvind kindly save this email of urs beacuse this query will pop up a lot.

 

On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 arvind_sharma wrote:

> Jai Gurudev,

> Your query is a normal query which any new person is bound to ask.

> However, u need to realise that Diksha is a continuation of

> relationship of soul with Guru-tatva. The soul is eternal, and

> changes bodies through various births.

> Pujya Trimurti Gurudevs were elevated into Gurupad in 1993, and they

> have been granting Diksha since. In many Sadhana Camps, both

> SadGurudev and Trimurti Gurudevs have granted Diksha.

> So, u need not be concerned about physical frame. The same Divine

> energy flows thru pujya Trimurti Gurudevs.

> Many instances have been published in mag when sadhaks have "seen"

> form of SadGurudev merging together with Trimurti Gurudevs, during

> Diksha, or during the Sadhana camps. It is the logical continuation.

> You will receive same benefit by taking Diksha from pujya Trimurti

> Gurudevs.

>

> However, beware of the newly-fangled, copycat Gurus who are

> profilerating in the society today. I am ashamed to admit it, but

> some of our own fellow-disciples have declared themselves as Guru at

> various places, and started giving Diksha, printing mag etc. to

> achieve petty financial gains. These newbies have NOT been authorised

> by Sadgurudev or Trimurti Gurudevs to grant Diksha etc. But then,

> some people will do anything to make money, and misguiding others in

> name of religion is a very easy task ! It is highly tempting to

> inflate one's ego and think of oneself as a God after achieving

> success in a few Sadhanas.

>

> Moroever, it will not be totally accurate to say that "Gurudev isn't

> physically present now"

> Gurudev is always present whenever a disciple calls out to Him. It

> might sound childish, but it is a fact. This relationship is founded

> on trust and faith. Invoking Gurudev's name whenever in trouble is a

> sureshot way to solve problem. If you perform Guru Sadhana in early

> morning (brahmamuhurath) with full faith and conviction, then you

> will yourself experience His presence. You can try it out yourself.

> However, u need to have full faith & trust. Start doing it every

> morning, and within few weeks , u will realise it.

> Jai Gurudev

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Jai Gurudev!

 

Anurag Goel is right in stating that any disciple who

follows Sat Gurudev sincerely and seriously is liable

to become a spiritual leader one day. Also it is a

fact that if you chant Guru Mantra in Brahma Muhurth

i.e. in the early morning, SatGurudev will definitely

come to your rescue and your problems will get solved.

For instance, I am in Chennai. The teen Gurus are in

Jodhpur. I do not have any contact with them in any

form as I do not know Hindi. Nor I can spend so much

money to travel all the way to Jodhpur and meet them

to get any clarifications. I sincerely chant Guru

Mantra,Chaitanya Mantra and Gayathri Mantra daily

without any let up. I am personally a happy man.

 

Regarding taking Diksha from teen Gurus at Jodhpur, I

cannot comment as I am incompetent to make any

comments on such things. However, it is for the

individual to select his Guru. I am a firm believer

that if you are destined to get a good Guru, nothing

can stop you in this regard.

 

Regarding creating Website in Hindi, the South Indians

will get the real benefit of knowing about Sat Gurudev

and his preachings can be spread only if English

Website is also available to them.

 

Jai Gurudev!

 

Sankaran

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Very true Ashish. Yes Trimurti Pujya Gurudev and

Gurudev used to give<BR>

Diksha in the same shivir. Pujya Gurudev gae them

whatever was needed to<BR>

become a spiritual teacher to Trimurti Pujya Guurdev.

And gurudev has said<BR>

that its not that they have a right to become Guru as

they r my sons.<BR>

Any disciple of mine who follows me seriously and has

the true intent will<BR>

have the right to become a spiritual leader.<BR>

<BR>

Whoever becomes a disciple he is a disciple of Pujya

Gurudev.<BR>

<BR>

This body is like a cloth. Pujya Gurudev is still

there in the universe<BR>

though in someother form. He will come to you if you

call him in true<BR>

love and for the want of true knowledge.<BR>

<BR>

He has said just give 6 months of sincere devotion and

i will make you<BR>

someone.<BR>

<BR>

luv,<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 arvind_sharma

wrote:<BR>

<BR>

> Jai Gurudev,<BR>

> Your query is a normal query which any new person

is bound to ask.<BR>

> However, u need to realise that Diksha is a

continuation of<BR>

> relationship of soul with Guru-tatva. The soul is

eternal, and<BR>

> changes bodies through various births.<BR>

> Pujya Trimurti Gurudevs were elevated into

Gurupad in 1993, and they<BR>

> have been granting Diksha since. In many Sadhana

Camps, both<BR>

> SadGurudev and Trimurti Gurudevs have granted

Diksha.<BR>

> So, u need not be concerned about physical frame.

The same Divine<BR>

> energy flows thru pujya Trimurti Gurudevs.<BR>

> Many instances have been published in mag when

sadhaks have "seen"<BR>

> form of SadGurudev merging together with Trimurti

Gurudevs, during<BR>

> Diksha, or during the Sadhana camps. It is the

logical continuation.<BR>

> You will receive same benefit by taking Diksha

from pujya Trimurti<BR>

> Gurudevs.<BR>

><BR>

> However, beware of the newly-fangled, copycat

Gurus who are<BR>

> profilerating in the society today. I am ashamed

to admit it, but<BR>

> some of our own fellow-disciples have declared

themselves as Guru at<BR>

> various places, and started giving Diksha,

printing mag etc. to<BR>

> achieve petty financial gains. These newbies have

NOT been authorised<BR>

> by Sadgurudev or Trimurti Gurudevs to grant

Diksha etc. But then,<BR>

> some people will do anything to make money, and

misguiding others in<BR>

> name of religion is a very easy task !  It

is highly tempting to<BR>

> inflate one's ego and think of oneself as a God

after achieving<BR>

> success in a few Sadhanas.<BR>

><BR>

> Moroever, it will not be totally accurate to say

that "Gurudev isn't<BR>

> physically present now"<BR>

> Gurudev is always present whenever a disciple

calls out to Him. It<BR>

> might sound childish, but it is a fact. This

relationship is founded<BR>

> on trust and faith. Invoking Gurudev's name

whenever in trouble is a<BR>

> sureshot way to solve problem. If you perform

Guru Sadhana in early<BR>

> morning (brahmamuhurath) with full faith and

conviction, then you<BR>

> will yourself experience His presence. You can

try it out yourself.<BR>

> However, u need to have full faith & trust.

Start doing it every<BR>

> morning, and within few weeks , u will realise

it.<BR>

> Jai Gurudev<BR>

><BR>

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