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Jay Gurudev,

 

A lot of pple have answered your queries excellently. Just putting my

two-paisa worth!!

 

In my view, a sadhak a someone who performs sadhana. Of course, he

may or may not have taken Guru Diksha. However, it helps

tremendously, if one performs Sadhana after taking Diksha, as Diksha

provides a protective cover for the Sadhak.

Performing Sadhana requires one to be very careful, and is akin to

walking on blade of sword. However, after Guru Diksha, the divine

form of Gurudev stays with the Sadhak constantly, providing him with

protection, guidance and care.

 

Disciplehood is a very high form. Just taking Diksha, or performing

Sadhana , or touching revered Gurudev's feets do NOT just make one a

disciple. As an analogy, performing Sadhana is like learning

alphabets (a b c...), while disciplehood is like attaining PhD.

A disciple has to offer everything to his Guru, disciplehood requires

trues love to Gurudev, and is founded on tenets of service,

perseverance, patience, devotion and faith.

A disciple exists only for his Guru, and is everready to sacrifice

not just his tan (body), man (mind) and dhan (wealth), but also his

life at a moment notice.

It is a very high stage, and by offering everything, a disciple

attains everything. In short, he dips into the divine lake of love,

devotion & service, and obtains all the pearls of sadhanas,

spiritual and material upliftment.

It is a very tough process, but it is a very simple process also. You

might argue that if a disciple offers all his wealth to Guru, then

what is he left with, or live on. You should not forget that the

divien form of reverent Gurudev is always with the disciple,and

Guruji takes care of all his needs. simple "miracles" keep happening

in his life thru which he never faces the paucity of wealth, food or

other basic requirements. However, a true disciple knows in his heart

that everything, his life, wealth etc. all belong to Gurudev, and he

is just a temporary carer of these for his Guru.

 

There is no difference, not even a single inch, between a disciple

and his Guru. Disciplehood means coming near, nearer, nearest.. and

then merging with the Guru.

A disciple doesn't need to perform Sadhanas. He realises all the rare

Sadhanas just by doing Guru sewa. His kundalini awakens, and he is

forever near his Guru. Since the divine form of his Guru stays always

with the disciple, and he can communicate with Him all the time, so

the disciple is never alone, never in problems. Then he understands

the verse...

"Ab Soump diya is jeevan ka sab bhaar tumhaare haatho mein, hain jeet

tumhare haathon mey....."

 

Reverent Gurudev has explained about these topics in some excellent

cassettes like ... "Guru Aur Shisya", "Mein Kho gaya, tum bhi kho

jaao", "Sadhana path" etc.

 

hope it clarifies some of your doubts. It is a bit difficult to

explain these subtle processes, one understands it by experiencing

it. For example, there are some Sadhaks, who attended the 7 day Delhi

shivir in early nineties with empty pockets. They didn't have any

money, they just used to buy lottery ticket daily, win it, and use

the money in doing Sadhanas & taking Dikshas at the camp. And they

always used to select the winning tickets!!!

 

It is a fact of life, that the more one does Guru service, the more

one comes closer to Gurudev, and the more success (s)he achieves.

 

About siddhashram etc. -

 

Soul never dies. It is eternal. U see the body form thru physical

eyes. Physical eyes arent capable of going deeper than some sets of

molecules and compounds which form the body. As an analogy, when u

see someone in yr dream, thru your inner conscious, u dont see their

body, or physically touch them. however, in yr dream, u touch others,

talk with them, travel with them etc. u do a lot of things with your

inner conscious during sleep (when this outer conscious sleeps),

which u cant do with physical body.

Similarly, regardless of this physical body, u can go to Siddhashram.

Many grishasth disciples of revered Gurudev have gone with Him to

Siddhashram and come back in their physical body. The physical body

is just a carrier, like a car/scooter to transport soul. Just as a

human can walk and can also ride a scooter, similarly an activated

soul can travel with or without a body.

 

About celibacy etc. -

Of course, it is not possible not live a grihasth life in a celibate

state. However, it is a question of maintaining balance. One sud

maintain a balance between the two. It is a bit difficult task, but

is achievable. That is why grihasth is supposed to be the toughest

phase of life, and moroever, this cud be a reason why the grihasth

achieves faster success in sadhana compared to a yogi or ascetic.

Pujya Gurudev has devised some simple, short sadhanas so that the

grihashths can also achieve success in shorter timeframe.

 

just some of my humble views,

 

btw, A belated "Very Happy Birthday" to Ashishji. Many Happy Returns

of the day.

 

Jai Gurudev

PS: For non-hindi reader, grihasth means living a wordly, family life.

 

 

, Sanjay Dudeja <sanjaydudeja> wrote:

> Date : 12/05/2001

>

> Dear Guru Bhais & Bahans

>

> JAI GURU DEV !

>

> What is difference between SADHAK and DISCIPLE. Who

> is Sadhak and who is Disciple.

>

> Please Advice soon.

>

> Sadguru Dev Ki Jay

>

> Regards : Sanjay

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JAI GURUDEV

Dear Arvind,

> btw, A belated "Very Happy Birthday" to Ashishji. Many Happy

> Returns of the day.

 

Thanks a lot. Have a nice day.

 

Ashish Marathe

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