Yad Bhavam Tad Bhavati - Source?

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

 

I have been searching the internet for the source of the Sanskrit

saying "Yad Bhavam Tad Bhavati". All the web sites I found just

explain the meaning of the saying without actually providing the

source of it. If any one of you know the source of it (what Veda,

what Upanishad, what Bhashya etc ), please post it.

[Guest guest]

Namaste:

 

Your assessment that the source of the Sanskrit saying: "Yad Bhavam

Tad Bhavati" is not available in the internet is quite correct. It

is my opinion, that this saying as quoted is not directly from the

scripture.

 

First, the slogan, "Yad Bhavam Tad Bhavati" is widely used by the

Sathya Sai followers and institutions associated to Sri Sathya Sai.

The followers truly believe that whatever Sri Sathya Sai says that

will become the reality. In India lots of social welfare activities

have been initiated and successfully completed by Sathya Sai

organizations. This strengthens the beliefs and the followers were

able to keep strong conviction to Sri Sathya Sai's words, and obey

and complete the tasks and work ordained by him.

 

It should be pointed out that the statement, "Yad Bhavam Tad Bhavati"

can become truthful provided that the words come with the `Divine

Blessings.' In other words, this is conditional and this statement

will become the reality to those who have attained highest point of

spiritual maturity. In the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, the verse

(chapter 1;18) states the following:

 

prthivyai cainam agnes ca daiva

vag avisati, sa vai daiva vag, yaya

yad yad eva vadati, tad tad bhavati.

 

Here is the interpretation by Swami Krishnananda:

Source: http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/brdup/brhad_I-05e.html

"The speech becomes divine, the mind becomes divine, and the Prana

also becomes divine thereby, due to which the capacity of spoken

words increases infinitely, because the limitations imposed upon

speech by its connection with the present body are lifted on account

of the practice of this meditation. Thus, here, the divine speech

enters the person, which means to say that speech becomes an

expression of a cosmic intention. Sa vai daiva, vag, yaya yad yad eva

vadati, tad tad bhavati: What do you mean by divine speech as

differentiated from ordinary speech? Generally, words correspond to

existent facts. We speak whatever is there in fact in the external

world. When our expression corresponds to facts or situations in the

world outside, then that form of speech is called true speech,

otherwise it is false speech. The words, the utterances or the

expressions should correspond to existing situations or things in the

world. But, in divine speech, it is the other way round. Whatever one

speaks should materialize as a fact in the other external world. The

objects outside, the conditions or situations, are determined by the

words uttered, not the reverse, as is the case with ordinary speech.

When an expression takes place or a word is uttered or something is

said by a person, that materializes on account of the cosmic power

being there behind the word, which is also behind the object in

regard to which the expression is made. There is a correspondence

established, therefore, between the word uttered and the object to

which it is directed. The correspondence is established by a common

substratum which is behind the speech as well as the object. Such is

the power of affiliation with superior dimensions of a more inclusive

nature."

 

The bottom line is that if we serve with the Divine Feelings, it is

bound to yield Divine Results. Any Karma that is initiated and

completed with the "Yagna Spirit" will be successful and beneficial

to the entire society. If it fails, it is only because the "Kartha"

did not have the Divine Feelings, Divine Support and the Divine

Blessings!

 

Harih Om!

 

Ram Chandran

advaitin, "Saradhi_Cheruvu"

<saradhi_cheruvu> wrote:

>

> Hi All,

>

> I have been searching the internet for the source of the Sanskrit

> saying "Yad Bhavam Tad Bhavati". All the web sites I found just

> explain the meaning of the saying without actually providing the

> source of it. If any one of you know the source of it (what Veda,

> what Upanishad, what Bhashya etc ), please post it.

[Guest guest]

advaitin, "Ram Chandran" <ramvchandran>

wrote:

>

> Namaste:

>

> Your assessment that the source of the Sanskrit saying: "Yad

Bhavam

> Tad Bhavati" is not available in the internet is quite correct.

It

> is my opinion, that this saying as quoted is not directly from the

> scripture.

>

 

Namaste,

 

Is it possible that it is a modification of the 2nd RRik of

Rig-veda X:90:ii (Purusha Sukta) ?

 

yad bhUtaM yachcha bhavyam |

 

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

[Guest guest]

Sunder-ji!

 

i think your 'premise' is correct ! i sent this member a private

email saying it may be from the Rig Veda but i was not 100 % sure

because sai baba quoted this verse in a specific context ...

 

here it is :

 

"In the Ramayana, Rama symbolises Rig Veda. Lakshmana signifies Yajur

Veda, which contains mantras chanted during the performance of yajnas

and yagas. When Rama was away in the forest, Bharata stayed in

Nandigrama singing His divine Name day in and day out. Hence, he

symbolises Sama Veda. Satrughna was the one who annihilated the

satrus (enemies) and protected the pious. He was obedient to his

brothers. He stands for Atharvana Veda. The essence of Atharvana Veda

lies in destroying wickedness and fostering sacred feelings and

activities. "

 

and then Sai baba went on to say " Bharata became like Rama " and

quoted " yad bhavam tad bhavati"

 

and in another place , baba says the Vedas declare " yad bhavam tad

bhavati "

 

thanks sunder-ji !

 

sometimes the vedas are quoted but not in the exact way in which they

are written

 

regards

 

 

 

 

 

advaitin, "Sunder Hattangadi" <sunderh>

wrote:

>

> advaitin, "Ram Chandran" <ramvchandran>

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste:

> >

> > Your assessment that the source of the Sanskrit saying: "Yad

> Bhavam

> > Tad Bhavati" is not available in the internet is quite correct.

> It

> > is my opinion, that this saying as quoted is not directly from

the

> > scripture.

> >

>

> Namaste,

>

> Is it possible that it is a modification of the 2nd RRik of

> Rig-veda X:90:ii (Purusha Sukta) ?

>

> yad bhUtaM yachcha bhavyam |

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunder

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sunderji:

 

I agree that it is a modified version of a similar statement like

the one you have quoted from the Rig-veda.

 

Here are some more sayings similar to "Yad Bhavam Tad Bhavati," I

want to share with all.

 

In the very last verse of Gita, Sanjay declares the following

(chapter 18, verse 76):

"Yathara Yogeshwara, Krishno yathra Parto Dhanurdhara

Thatra SreerVijaya Bhoothir Dhruva Neethir Madhir Mama."

 

Wherever there is Krishna, the Lord of Yoga, wherever there is

Arjuna, the archer, there are prosperity, happiness, victory and firm

policy; such is my conviction.

 

Here is another common saying (source unknown)

 

Yathra Dharmo thatra Krishna Yathra Krishno thatra Jaya

meaning, where there is Dharma, there is Krishna, where there is

Krishna, there is victory

 

It is said that whenever Sri Tulsidasji recited Ramayana he used to

keep one of the front seats vacant and covered with silk cloth. He

used to keep the seat for his Lord Anjaneya who in keeping with the

saying "yathra yathra raghunatha keerthanam thathra thathra

kruthamasthakanjalim" was sure to come for listening the Rama

Charitham. To this day many kathakar follow this practice of keeping

a seat for Lord Hanumanji when reciting Ramayana.

 

It is an accepted fact that Sanskrit is a Divine language. In

appearance we see pair of words `Yad – Tad' ( or

equivalently `Yatra – Tatra') but in reality Tad is just a

reflection of Yad! Whenever `Yad' appears with the Divine

Presence `Yad' transforms into `Tad. When we have this conviction,

then the following will be always true

 

Yad Jiva Tad Brahman!! (With the blessings and Grace of the Lord)

 

Harih Om!

 

Ram Chandran

 

 

advaitin, "Sunder Hattangadi" <sunderh>

wrote:

>

> Is it possible that it is a modification of the 2nd RRik of

> Rig-veda X:90:ii (Purusha Sukta) ?

>

> yad bhUtaM yachcha bhavyam |

[indhar 0]

should it have been "Yad Bhavam, tat bhavati"? "What(ever) you be, that you become".

I know that the general usage tends to be "yad bhavam, tad bhavati"

But somehow, I find that "tad" does not sit in well with the meaning of the word.

But it sure does rhyme well with "yad".

[Ranganathan N.R 0]

sir,

 

Anyway this saying is not from any upanishad. I have gone through all the upanishads and do not find this in any one. Thanks

Ranganathan N.R