Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2002 Dear bhakthas, I got some questions.The world is created and each and every soul came to existence due to the Lord Narayana.In this context, how we can map this to a person who doesnt follow our religion, for ex - an american.He doesnt know anything about moksha.Human being's life is defined and how is it defined for animals?.Please clarify. Your's N.Vijayaraghavan. _______________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2002 Dear Narasimhan, Here is my opinion. Feel free to disagree. The material body evolves from from a combination of the three gunas - Sattva, Rajas and Tamas. The individual soul or jiva takes different bodies as result of its karma. The jiva acquires karma because of desires. Therefore depending on its karmas, jivas can embody as plants, animals, humans, Pitrs, Bhutas, Devas, Gandharvas, Apsaras etc. in any part of this universe or other parallel universes. Depending on the particular body that a jiva has taken, it may or may not have access to the Vedic literature that points to Lord Narayana as the supreme being. Just because the jiva is ignorant of this knowledge it does not change the supreme truth or the supreme being. For example just because a person is ignorant of the law of gravity, it does not imply he is exempt from the effects of gravity. Similarly the eternal law namely VEDIC DHARMA applies to all beings. - rohit --- Narasimhan Vijayaraghavan <wasimlara wrote: > Dear bhakthas, > I got some questions.The > world is created and each > and every soul came to existence due to the Lord > Narayana.In this > context, how we can map this to a person who doesnt > follow our religion, > for ex - an american.He doesnt know anything about > moksha.Human being's > life is defined and how is it defined for > animals?.Please clarify. > > > Your's > > > N.Vijayaraghavan. > > > > > > > > _______________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print > your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > ----------------------------- > - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - > To Post a message, send it to: > bhakti-list > Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ > > > Your use of is subject to > > > ===== Rohit Iyer email: iyer_rohit Home Phone: (408) 445-9693 Work Phone: (408) 543-6668 Great stuff seeking new owners in Auctions! http://auctions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2002 You try to say that they (non-indians) actually dont know their root which is Lord Narayana.Please clarify. >Rohit Iyer <iyer_rohit >Narasimhan Vijayaraghavan <wasimlara, >bhakti-list >Re: Please clarify. >Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:48:56 -0800 (PST) > >Dear Narasimhan, > >Here is my opinion. Feel free to disagree. > >The material body evolves from from a combination of >the three gunas - Sattva, Rajas and Tamas. > >The individual soul or jiva takes different bodies as >result of its karma. The jiva acquires karma because >of desires. > >Therefore depending on its karmas, jivas can embody as >plants, animals, humans, Pitrs, Bhutas, Devas, >Gandharvas, Apsaras etc. in any part of this universe >or other parallel universes. > >Depending on the particular body that a jiva has >taken, it may or may not have access to the Vedic >literature that points to Lord Narayana as the supreme >being. Just because the jiva is ignorant of this >knowledge it does not change the supreme truth or the >supreme being. For example just because a person is >ignorant of the law of gravity, it does not imply he >is exempt from the effects of gravity. Similarly the >eternal law namely VEDIC DHARMA applies to all beings. > >- rohit > > > >--- Narasimhan Vijayaraghavan <wasimlara >wrote: > > Dear bhakthas, > > I got some questions.The > > world is created and each > > and every soul came to existence due to the Lord > > Narayana.In this > > context, how we can map this to a person who doesnt > > follow our religion, > > for ex - an american.He doesnt know anything about > > moksha.Human being's > > life is defined and how is it defined for > > animals?.Please clarify. > > > > > > Your's > > > > > > N.Vijayaraghavan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print > > your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > > > > >----------------------------- > > - SrImate rAmAnujAya namaH - > > To Post a message, send it to: > > bhakti-list > > Archives: http://ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/ > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > >===== >Rohit Iyer > >email: iyer_rohit >Home Phone: (408) 445-9693 >Work Phone: (408) 543-6668 > > > >Great stuff seeking new owners in Auctions! >http://auctions. _______________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2002 I think the jiva is eternally knowledgable about the supreme soul Narayana, but this knowledge may be covered by gunas like rajas and tamas. Purification of the mind is required for the understanding the absolute truth. Purification means removal of lust, anger, greed etc. Then the light of the supreme being will shine by itself in the mind. Also let us remember that "Sarva deva namaskArah kesavam prati gacchati" (Salutation to every deity ultimately goes to srI Kesava) This is my humble opinion. Thanks, rohit --- Narasimhan Vijayaraghavan <wasimlara wrote: > You try to say that they (non-indians) actually dont > know their root which > is Lord Narayana.Please clarify. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 31, 2002 >Dear bhakthas, > I got some questions.The world is created and each >and every soul came to existence due to the Lord Narayana.In this >context, how we can map this to a person who doesnt follow our religion, >for ex - an american.He doesnt know anything about moksha.Human being's >life is defined and how is it defined for animals?.Please clarify. > > > Your's > > N.Vijayaraghavan. > Shree Vijayaraghavan, Here are my thoughts:. Every life form is looking for happiness - uninterrupted, unlimited absolute happiness - and that seems to be the purpose of life - whether American and Indian. All pursuits in life - pravR^itti or nivR^iit - that is gaining something or getting rid of something is only to accomplish this end. In the human, the intellect has evolved to the degree he cannot but ask questions at one stage in life or not - what is the purpose of life? -and this is what is stated in the Mu. Up. pariiksha lokaan karmachitaan brahmano .... . Philosophies - or dharshanaas have evolved to explain essentially this - what is jiiva? or individual? what is this world that one has to deal with -Is there a creator and if so what is His/her qualifications? why did He create? what is the relation between the Jiiva and the creator and Ultimately how one can achieve what one wants to achieve - the absolute uninterrupted, unlimited happiness. In answering the above questions, one becomes aware of why normal means of knowledge - pratyaksha and anumaana cannot lead to answers to these questions and why shabda or shaastra alone are the means of knowledge. This automatically lead to Veda and Vedanta as the ultimate means for knowledge. How achaarya-s interpreted the Vedic teachings and why you feel that Ramanuja's interpretation of the Vedic teaching is correct. The bottom line is - before one discusses these issues with American or anyone, one should one self be sure about the knowledge. Second way of teaching is living or leading the values and teachings of the Achaaryas by following strictly with complete faith and understanding - manasaa vaachaa karamana - and your life itself will be a teaching for those who would like to follow by seeing the virtuous life. Hari Om! Sadananda -- K. Sadananda Code 6323 Naval Research Laboratory Washington D.C. 20375 Voice (202)767-2117 Fax:(202)767-2623 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2006 Sunrise Kodavanti Subrahmanyam (12 May 2006) Sun rises in the east and sets at west Mid day sun is very hot an experience What is reality and what is false Is there any raise and fall of the sun? Around the sun, the planets are moving Earth's movement causing day and night None can imagine the earth stops moving All miracles, our mind is full of misery. Imagine when the earth has no movement Imagine when the earth has no spin Imagine when round the clock sun-shine Imagine when round the clock darkness. Just like this we are in the peril Just like this we are in the bondage Just like this we are in the darkness The indwelling Sun, to teach the truth. Meditate, Meditate, Meditate, Med-- Till the Ray of the Divinity in thee Till the Ray of Sunshine sparks in thee Worry not remain in MERRY HAPPINESS T A K E T I M E 1) Take time to MEDITATE. It is the price of POWER, to enjoy the BLISS of indwelling SUPER CONSCIOUSNESS for ever lasting peace and Happiness, the real Goal of human life. 2) Take time to sing a song since MUSIC means Melodious, Universal, Spiritual, Individual and Creativity. Learn Music not to earn money but to maintain long life with health and happiness. 3) Take time to LAUGH. It is the MUSIC OF THE SOUL. 4) Take time to SERVE. Service to humanity is service to GOD. (Manava sevaye Madhava Seva) 5) Take time to WORK. It is the price of SUCCESS. 6) Take time to PLAY. It is the secret of PERPETUAL YOUTH. 7) Take time to READ. It is the way to KNOWLEDGE. 8) Take time to be FRIENDLY. It is the road to HAPPINESS. 9) Take time to LOVE AND BE LOVED, it is the nature of being alive. Without this, we can scarcely live. (Created by: Subrahmanyam Kodavanti, Visakhapatnam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2006 EYE OF HURRICANE KODAVANTI SUBRAHMANYAM Hurricane horror spread miles and miles Hurry the people to move miles and miles Worry the people no matter rich and poor Bury' hard-earned assets make them roar. Hurricane's mind always works on destruction People's mind is always works on construction Hurricane shows no mercy of any religion People always embrace of their own religion. Surrounded by destruction, the eye is calm Even spread over miles Cyclone's eye is calm Shy not to say human is also having such eye Visible only to the enlightened, the Third Eye. Third Eye is quiet and calm, no disturbance at all Round around surrounded worries, care not at all Greed, games of politics, desires do not care at all Aground the mind to focus one or no thought at all. Third eye is full of mercy lull the body with mercy Skill is at will to kill the mind, view the full mercy Vanish religious mind, banish thought force thee View the THIRD EYE born like BRIGHT SUN IN THEE Third Eye is the God, the spirit all in one The happiness, enjoyment also all in one The Bliss Eternal, turning point all in one The Truth, the Sweet Fruit of life all in one. Attitude changed, Ideas changed really a wonder Work is changed, Worship is changed, a wonder Look is changed, Luck is changed, what a wonder Changed personality, is really a great wonder! ***** January 5th, 2006. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2006 “O M Y G O D !” Kodavanti Subrahmanyam smkodav@gmail.com Who are You, how are You and how old are You? Where are You and what is Your date of birth? What is your Mother tongue and who are your parents? Do you have fluency of languages of the world? What is your religion? Tell me, if You do not mind. Are You a Graduate, Professor, Engineer or Philosopher? Where is Your School? Is it on Earth or in Heaven? Name the School and University; Teacher and professor Do You have licence to drive on land, sea and air? Do You have learner licence? Tell me, if You do not mind. Are You a vegetarian, non-vegetarian or non-eating saint? Do You like sweet, hot, cool drink, hot drink or cocktail? Are You free from all diseases or in need of medical advice? Did You visit any hospital for heart and pulse check-up? Health is wealth, a fact. Tell me, if You do not mind. How much do You earn; how do You do, earning? Daily, monthly, yearly or earning while learning? Dollars, Dinars, Euros, Yens, Rupees, Riyals or what? Your wage, currency and purchasing power, tell me Are You a spend thrift? Tell me, if you do not mind. Are You married, having children and grand children? Are You having problems like your children and my children? Are You living in a rented house, own a flat or Bungalow? Is Your dwelling place fully furnished or un-furnished? Having place to park? Tell me, if You do not mind. Who are Your Bankers and what is Your account? Do You have Credit Cards, Master and Visa cards? Can You provide a Short Term Loan to any person? Worry not, repayment, may be, in easy instalments, I do not want that loan. Tell me, if you do not mind. Do You have any thing, which untouched with money? Give me that, purchase of which without money This aspect of money is not coming to the minds of many Kindly guide me; you have extraordinary, if any In what way I can impress You. Tell me, if you do not mind! ***** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 24, 2006 “O MY DEAR MIND, MIND YOURSELF” Subrahmanyam Kodavanti smkodav@gmail.com O my dear mind if you don’t mind, mind yourself It’s full of Super consciousness, bliss of your Self A Lead Kindly Light, Lead the goal of your Self Detachment Attachment, learn with ease yourself. O my dear mind- - Detach body consciousness, know the art of bliss Attach Inner Vision Consciousness, don’t miss Death of thoughts O God! Bliss Eternal is assured A bright spark tuned on to you, centres cured. O my dear mind- - Burden of the body bundled to heaven, not hell Misery of the mind also is not too late as well Merger of the mind with the Devine a good will Conscious sleep, beautiful boon with cosmic bell O my dear mind- - Inward journey, the habit you deserve to lead Good symptoms a proof you are in good mood Location and vacation of centres a good deed Calming down the mind always elderly heed O my dear mind- - Happiness, Happy moods elevating henceforth Sorrow, no question at all vanish thenceforth Religion, politics, man made ones whence forth Class and creed to care none at all to put forth O my dear mind- - Beyond religion, no doubt but, flow with religion A Golden River emerged really in every religion All are saints, no doubt creators of each religion Doubt not, the bliss with in, not to quit religion O my dear mind- - A Master’s mind, no doubt to respect, a must A Master’s wish, no doubt to lit lamp, a must A Master’s Vision, no doubt, emerge its best A Master, no doubt, guides thee till the last. O my dear mind- - Rich and poor, no matter, who ever are thee Your presence is a must to eliminate thee Forgive and forget me, Golden Eye, O thee A blissful motion, emerged to goodbye, thee O my dear mind- - O God, what is your religion? I don’t know O God, what is your profession? I don’t know O God, What is your nativity? I don’t know O God, What is your language? I don’t know O my dear mind- - *** *** *** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
