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Guess no one. There is no such a thing basically as "main".

Moreover, Nigamas can mean either division of Shakta-tantras (when Devi is Guru)

or Vedas

(as opposed to Agamas, Tantras).

In the first sense, Rudra-yamala (text we have now) and Kulachudamani are

Nigamas.

 

A

 

, "Llundrub" <llundrub wrote:

>

> Yes, I like that idea. It's been a long time since a scripture was discussed

here. I have a

question and that is could someone list the main nigamas?

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There's not a transliterated version of Rudrayamala is there? Besides SS site?

 

Yes, I'm thinking of the Devi-Guru tantras. I'm sure there's very many and also

the North South Indian have different as well.

 

Is there a nigama that Swami Amritananda reads?

 

 

 

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Arjuna Taranandanatha

Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:47 AM

Re: Kaula superior to vama [about Nigamas]?

 

 

93

 

Guess no one. There is no such a thing basically as "main".

Moreover, Nigamas can mean either division of Shakta-tantras (when Devi is Guru)

or Vedas

(as opposed to Agamas, Tantras).

In the first sense, Rudra-yamala (text we have now) and Kulachudamani are

Nigamas.

 

A

 

, "Llundrub" <llundrub wrote:

>

> Yes, I like that idea. It's been a long time since a scripture was discussed

here. I have a

question and that is could someone list the main nigamas?

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You can get Rudra-yamala (sanskrit in translit) from Muktabodha Online library.

It is free,

U just have to register there.

 

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, "Llundrub" <llundrub wrote:

>

> There's not a transliterated version of Rudrayamala is there? Besides SS site?

>

> Yes, I'm thinking of the Devi-Guru tantras. I'm sure there's very many and

also the

North South Indian have different as well.

>

> Is there a nigama that Swami Amritananda reads?

>

>

>

> -

> Arjuna Taranandanatha

>

> Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:47 AM

> Re: Kaula superior to vama [about Nigamas]?

>

>

> 93

>

> Guess no one. There is no such a thing basically as "main".

> Moreover, Nigamas can mean either division of Shakta-tantras (when Devi is

Guru) or

Vedas

> (as opposed to Agamas, Tantras).

> In the first sense, Rudra-yamala (text we have now) and Kulachudamani are

Nigamas.

>

> A

>

> , "Llundrub" <llundrub@> wrote:

> >

> > Yes, I like that idea. It's been a long time since a scripture was discussed

here. I have

a

> question and that is could someone list the main nigamas?

>

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On 3/31/06, Arjuna Taranandanatha <bhagatirtha wrote:

>

> You can get Rudra-yamala (sanskrit in translit) from Muktabodha Online

> library. It is free,

>

 

The only problem is that its in encoding

Velthius<http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/RudraYamalaVEL\

THIUS.txt>

Harvard-Kyoto<http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/RudraYama\

laHK.txt>

csxplus<http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/RudraYamalaCSX.\

txt>

 

And there is no way to translate it back to devnagri. I wonder why havent it

been translit in ITRANS... ?

 

 

A

>

> , "Llundrub" <llundrub wrote:

> >

> > There's not a transliterated version of Rudrayamala is there? Besides SS

> site?

> >

> > Yes, I'm thinking of the Devi-Guru tantras. I'm sure there's very many

> and also the

> North South Indian have different as well.

> >

> > Is there a nigama that Swami Amritananda reads?

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > Arjuna Taranandanatha

> >

> > Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:47 AM

> > Re: Kaula superior to vama [about Nigamas]?

> >

> >

> > 93

> >

> > Guess no one. There is no such a thing basically as "main".

> > Moreover, Nigamas can mean either division of Shakta-tantras (when Devi

> is Guru) or

> Vedas

> > (as opposed to Agamas, Tantras).

> > In the first sense, Rudra-yamala (text we have now) and Kulachudamani

> are Nigamas.

> >

> > A

> >

> > , "Llundrub" <llundrub@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Yes, I like that idea. It's been a long time since a scripture was

> discussed here. I have

> a

> > question and that is could someone list the main nigamas?

> >

>

>

>

>

Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

--

Thanks

Dp

[The force is feminine in nature]

 

 

 

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Devanagari fonts "velthius for tex package"

 

http://www.aczoom.com/itrans/dvng/node1.html

 

, "Dhirendra Pal Singh"

<dpal.singh wrote:

>

> On 3/31/06, Arjuna Taranandanatha <bhagatirtha wrote:

> >

> > You can get Rudra-yamala (sanskrit in translit) from Muktabodha

Online

> > library. It is free,

> >

>

> The only problem is that its in encoding

>

Velthius<http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/Rudr

aYamalaVELTHIUS.txt>

> Harvard-

Kyoto<http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/RudraYa

malaHK.txt>

>

csxplus<http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/Rudra

YamalaCSX.txt>

>

> And there is no way to translate it back to devnagri. I wonder why

havent it

> been translit in ITRANS... ?

>

>

> A

> >

> > , "Llundrub" <llundrub@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > There's not a transliterated version of Rudrayamala is there?

Besides SS

> > site?

> > >

> > > Yes, I'm thinking of the Devi-Guru tantras. I'm sure there's

very many

> > and also the

> > North South Indian have different as well.

> > >

> > > Is there a nigama that Swami Amritananda reads?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > Arjuna Taranandanatha

> > >

> > > Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:47 AM

> > > Re: Kaula superior to vama [about

Nigamas]?

> > >

> > >

> > > 93

> > >

> > > Guess no one. There is no such a thing basically as "main".

> > > Moreover, Nigamas can mean either division of Shakta-tantras

(when Devi

> > is Guru) or

> > Vedas

> > > (as opposed to Agamas, Tantras).

> > > In the first sense, Rudra-yamala (text we have now) and

Kulachudamani

> > are Nigamas.

> > >

> > > A

> > >

> > > , "Llundrub" <llundrub@>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Yes, I like that idea. It's been a long time since a

scripture was

> > discussed here. I have

> > a

> > > question and that is could someone list the main nigamas?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> --

> Thanks

> Dp

> [The force is feminine in nature]

>

>

>

>

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any 3 of these formats can be converted to ITRANS [first to balaram

format and then to itrans]. and then use Itranslator2003 for

devanagari display :)

 

convert to itrans here

http://convert.granthamandira.org/

 

, "Dhirendra Pal Singh"

<dpal.singh wrote:

>

> The only problem is that its in encoding

>

Velthius<http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/RudraYamalaVEL\

THIUS.txt>

>

Harvard-Kyoto<http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/RudraYama\

laHK.txt>

>

csxplus<http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/RudraYamalaCSX.\

txt>

>

> And there is no way to translate it back to devnagri. I wonder why

havent it

> been translit in ITRANS... ?

>

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Greetings,

 

It will take U some 10 minutes to change it into ITRANS. Any text editing

application

starting from TextEdit, Pages or Word and ending with InCopy/InDesign has

facility "Find

and Replace". Just U will have to change 51 letters from one encoding to

another, it's

simple.

 

A

 

, "Dhirendra Pal Singh" <dpal.singh

wrote:

>

> On 3/31/06, Arjuna Taranandanatha <bhagatirtha wrote:

> >

> > You can get Rudra-yamala (sanskrit in translit) from Muktabodha Online

> > library. It is free,

> >

>

> The only problem is that its in encoding

> Velthius<http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/

RudraYamalaVELTHIUS.txt>

> Harvard-Kyoto<http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/

RudraYamalaHK.txt>

> csxplus<http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/

RudraYamalaCSX.txt>

>

> And there is no way to translate it back to devnagri. I wonder why havent it

> been translit in ITRANS... ?

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Now thats what I am talking aobut.. man u rock..:) :) :)

 

Tons of thanks.. I am right now translating kularnava tantra.. wooo..

 

Now since we are here.. do you have any idea not use itrans on linux based

system. I have been trying to make it work for like 5 hrs.. with no luck..

:(

 

Thanks once again

Regards

Dp

 

 

On 3/31/06, Adwaith Menon <menonar wrote:

>

> any 3 of these formats can be converted to ITRANS [first to balaram

> format and then to itrans]. and then use Itranslator2003 for

> devanagari display :)

>

> convert to itrans here

> http://convert.granthamandira.org/

>

> , "Dhirendra Pal Singh"

> <dpal.singh wrote:

>

> >

> > The only problem is that its in encoding

> >

> Velthius<

>

http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/RudraYamalaVELTHIUS.txt

> >

> >

> Harvard-Kyoto<

> http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/RudraYamalaHK.txt

> >

> >

> csxplus<

> http://www.muktabodhalib.org/SECURE/MALAVIYA/RUDRAYAMALA/RudraYamalaCSX.txt

> >

> >

> > And there is no way to translate it back to devnagri. I wonder why

> havent it

> > been translit in ITRANS... ?

>

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Not really, but i guess , since tex is a cross platform application

and, if i am not mistaken, osx uses true type fonts , the Velthius

font package must be compatible, or at least the probability is high

that there is a osx version of velthius or any other transliteration

Devanagari font for tex is floating around somewhere in the net.

 

, "Arjuna Taranandanatha"

<bhagatirtha wrote:

>

> 93

>

> Have U got an idea how to set up TeX on MacOSX for usage of

devanagari?

> What is needed of software and fonts?

>

> Regards,

> A

>

> , "mahahradanatha"

<mahahradanatha@> wrote:

> >

> > Devanagari fonts "velthius for tex package"

> >

> > http://www.aczoom.com/itrans/dvng/node1.html

>

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OSX supports all fonts apart from Windows Type 1 — that is Mac TrueType, DFONT,

OpenType, Mac Type 1 and Windows TrueType.

 

And what is needed to install TeX? Which package is preferable?

 

 

, "mahahradanatha" <mahahradanatha

wrote:

>

> Not really, but i guess , since tex is a cross platform application

> and, if i am not mistaken, osx uses true type fonts , the Velthius

> font package must be compatible, or at least the probability is high

> that there is a osx version of velthius or any other transliteration

> Devanagari font for tex is floating around somewhere in the net.

>

> , "Arjuna Taranandanatha"

> <bhagatirtha@> wrote:

> >

> > 93

> >

> > Have U got an idea how to set up TeX on MacOSX for usage of

> devanagari?

> > What is needed of software and fonts?

> >

> > Regards,

> > A

> >

> > , "mahahradanatha"

> <mahahradanatha@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Devanagari fonts "velthius for tex package"

> > >

> > > http://www.aczoom.com/itrans/dvng/node1.html

> >

>

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I have been trying to beat my head with Tex and itrans on linux. Spent a lot

of time and i cant get it to work... If you are successful Arjuna ji then

please let me also know about it.. :)

 

BTW one more thing.. I have seen that using itrans in batch mode is much

faster then the normal gui mode. I was able to translate complete

JanarvaTantra much quicker in batch mode then it gui mode.

 

Thanks and Regards

Dp

 

On 4/1/06, Arjuna Taranandanatha <bhagatirtha wrote:

>

> OSX supports all fonts apart from Windows Type 1 — that is Mac TrueType,

> DFONT,

> OpenType, Mac Type 1 and Windows TrueType.

>

> And what is needed to install TeX? Which package is preferable?

>

>

> , "mahahradanatha"

> <mahahradanatha

> wrote:

> >

> > Not really, but i guess , since tex is a cross platform application

> > and, if i am not mistaken, osx uses true type fonts , the Velthius

> > font package must be compatible, or at least the probability is high

> > that there is a osx version of velthius or any other transliteration

> > Devanagari font for tex is floating around somewhere in the net.

> >

> > , "Arjuna Taranandanatha"

> > <bhagatirtha@> wrote:

> > >

> > > 93

> > >

> > > Have U got an idea how to set up TeX on MacOSX for usage of

> > devanagari?

> > > What is needed of software and fonts?

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > A

> > >

> > > , "mahahradanatha"

> > <mahahradanatha@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Devanagari fonts "velthius for tex package"

> > > >

> > > > http://www.aczoom.com/itrans/dvng/node1.html

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

--

Thanks

Dp

[The force is feminine in nature]

 

 

 

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BTW anyone worked with converting fonts from one format to another with

something like

FontLab or TransType? Was it successful?

 

And what is the best way to make devanagari appear in browser using unicode? We

tryed

but with partial success. Some browsers like Firefox and Opera (Mac-version) has

unicode

problems — it worked only on Safari and IE.

 

 

, "Dhirendra Pal Singh" <dpal.singh

wrote:

>

> I have been trying to beat my head with Tex and itrans on linux. Spent a lot

> of time and i cant get it to work... If you are successful Arjuna ji then

> please let me also know about it.. :)

>

> BTW one more thing.. I have seen that using itrans in batch mode is much

> faster then the normal gui mode. I was able to translate complete

> JanarvaTantra much quicker in batch mode then it gui mode.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Dp

>

> On 4/1/06, Arjuna Taranandanatha <bhagatirtha wrote:

> >

> > OSX supports all fonts apart from Windows Type 1 â€" that is Mac TrueType,

> > DFONT,

> > OpenType, Mac Type 1 and Windows TrueType.

> >

> > And what is needed to install TeX? Which package is preferable?

> >

> >

> > , "mahahradanatha"

> > <mahahradanatha@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Not really, but i guess , since tex is a cross platform application

> > > and, if i am not mistaken, osx uses true type fonts , the Velthius

> > > font package must be compatible, or at least the probability is high

> > > that there is a osx version of velthius or any other transliteration

> > > Devanagari font for tex is floating around somewhere in the net.

> > >

> > > , "Arjuna Taranandanatha"

> > > <bhagatirtha@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > 93

> > > >

> > > > Have U got an idea how to set up TeX on MacOSX for usage of

> > > devanagari?

> > > > What is needed of software and fonts?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > A

> > > >

> > > > , "mahahradanatha"

> > > <mahahradanatha@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Devanagari fonts "velthius for tex package"

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.aczoom.com/itrans/dvng/node1.html

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On 4/1/06, Arjuna Taranandanatha <bhagatirtha wrote:

>

>

> And what is the best way to make devanagari appear in browser using

> unicode? We tryed

> but with partial success. Some browsers like Firefox and Opera

> (Mac-version) has unicode

> problems — it worked only on Safari and IE.

 

 

It should work fine both firefox and IE. It depends more on the OS. For

example firefox on linux cant render correctly words that are supposed to be

half, "sh" in shyam. But when used to view on windows, firefox renders it

correctly.

 

You can test by seeing BBCHindi.com webpage. the link is as follows

http://www.bbc.co.uk/hindi/

 

I can see it correctly, both on firefox and ie on windows.

 

Hope this helps..

Dp

 

 

 

, "Dhirendra Pal Singh" <dpal.singh

> wrote:

> >

> > I have been trying to beat my head with Tex and itrans on linux. Spent a

> lot

> > of time and i cant get it to work... If you are successful Arjuna ji

> then

> > please let me also know about it.. :)

> >

> > BTW one more thing.. I have seen that using itrans in batch mode is much

> > faster then the normal gui mode. I was able to translate complete

> > JanarvaTantra much quicker in batch mode then it gui mode.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Dp

> >

> > On 4/1/06, Arjuna Taranandanatha <bhagatirtha wrote:

> > >

> > > OSX supports all fonts apart from Windows Type 1 â€" that is Mac

> TrueType,

> > > DFONT,

> > > OpenType, Mac Type 1 and Windows TrueType.

> > >

> > > And what is needed to install TeX? Which package is preferable?

> > >

> > >

> > > , "mahahradanatha"

> > > <mahahradanatha@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Not really, but i guess , since tex is a cross platform application

> > > > and, if i am not mistaken, osx uses true type fonts , the Velthius

> > > > font package must be compatible, or at least the probability is high

> > > > that there is a osx version of velthius or any other transliteration

> > > > Devanagari font for tex is floating around somewhere in the net.

> > > >

> > > > , "Arjuna Taranandanatha"

> > > > <bhagatirtha@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > 93

> > > > >

> > > > > Have U got an idea how to set up TeX on MacOSX for usage of

> > > > devanagari?

> > > > > What is needed of software and fonts?

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > A

> > > > >

> > > > > , "mahahradanatha"

> > > > <mahahradanatha@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Devanagari fonts "velthius for tex package"

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.aczoom.com/itrans/dvng/node1.html

Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

--

Thanks

Dp

[The force is feminine in nature]

 

 

 

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, "Dhirendra Pal Singh" <dpal.singh

wrote:

>

> On 4/1/06, Arjuna Taranandanatha <bhagatirtha wrote:

> >

> >

Given page of BBC can be viewed only in Safari/Shiira on Mac, while Opera and

Firefox

(both last versions) cannot display unicode devanagari. IE for Mac is total

crap.

Firefox on WinPC has problems in some cases, as well as Opera.

Thus, for unicode only Safari/Shiira and IE6 on PC work.

BTW what about Konquerer under Linux?

 

> > And what is the best way to make devanagari appear in browser using

> > unicode? We tryed

> > but with partial success. Some browsers like Firefox and Opera

> > (Mac-version) has unicode

> > problems â€" it worked only on Safari and IE.

>

>

> It should work fine both firefox and IE. It depends more on the OS. For

> example firefox on linux cant render correctly words that are supposed to be

> half, "sh" in shyam. But when used to view on windows, firefox renders it

> correctly.

>

> You can test by seeing BBCHindi.com webpage. the link is as follows

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/hindi/

>

> I can see it correctly, both on firefox and ie on windows.

>

> Hope this helps..

> Dp

>

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, "Arjuna Taranandanatha"

<bhagatirtha wrote:

>

> , "Dhirendra Pal Singh"

<dpal.singh@> wrote:

> >

> > On 4/1/06, Arjuna Taranandanatha <bhagatirtha@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> Given page of BBC can be viewed only in Safari/Shiira on Mac,

while Opera and Firefox

> (both last versions) cannot display unicode devanagari. IE for Mac

is total crap.

> Firefox on WinPC has problems in some cases, as well as Opera.

> Thus, for unicode only Safari/Shiira and IE6 on PC work.

> BTW what about Konquerer under Linux?

 

 

Now we do have many a times odd messages being posted. I thought ive

seen it all but nay!!!!! this is the most wierdest message ive ever

read.

 

What is this two guys talking about huh!

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I apologise for getting carried away in this discussion.

I can talk about Spirituality and Computers any time... :)

 

Perhaps we will take it off line.

 

Thanks for being patient..

Dp

 

 

On 4/2/06, NMadasamy <ashwini_puralasamy wrote:

>

> , "Arjuna Taranandanatha"

> <bhagatirtha wrote:

> >

> > , "Dhirendra Pal Singh"

> <dpal.singh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > On 4/1/06, Arjuna Taranandanatha <bhagatirtha@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > Given page of BBC can be viewed only in Safari/Shiira on Mac,

> while Opera and Firefox

> > (both last versions) cannot display unicode devanagari. IE for Mac

> is total crap.

> > Firefox on WinPC has problems in some cases, as well as Opera.

> > Thus, for unicode only Safari/Shiira and IE6 on PC work.

> > BTW what about Konquerer under Linux?

>

>

> Now we do have many a times odd messages being posted. I thought ive

> seen it all but nay!!!!! this is the most wierdest message ive ever

> read.

>

> What is this two guys talking about huh!

>

>

>

>

Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

--

Thanks

Dp

[The force is feminine in nature]

 

 

 

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