Guest guest Posted July 15, 2003 Report Share Posted July 15, 2003 Hari Om everyone I don't know exactly what is meant by unsterilizing eggs.That funda(that eggs are now unsterilised and not bad) may have been propagated by the stalwarts of the poultry industry who marketed it into the innocent minds(I am from India but I think that some kind of law suits were filed against the tobacco industry which had 'misled' the public).Some day the truth will be out but by then The Poultry man(for Marlboro man) would have sweeped many.By the way how 'bout justifying cigarrette as "vegeterian" . Well getting back to eggs, I know a vegetarian who loves to eat eggs. He says that he cares to buy eggs from a farmer who feeds his hen with vegetables only. He is convinced that he eats eggs which are laid by vegetarian hen only. There is some thinking required here,Why is he giving any explaination! However,I am going to pose a simple question- Is the human female egg vegeterian?. You just need to answer this to get enlightened. Swami Vivekanand once said that-"Control the sense of tongue,become if this one sense runs wild,all others will follow suit." By corrolary it is also possible to control all senses by controling the sense of tongue.One only has to try this to get his answer. Dear Mary I would suggest you the following link so you can know how harmful eggs are to your health- http://www.goveg.com/r-fact7.html You were very profound when you said that The Supreme IS and requires no belief. By belief is meant however the "feel" of the Almighty.Don't get confused with the words.They are just "the peel of banana,what is "Real" is the banana."-Sri Sri Ravi Shankar I am not here to teach anyone as I am myself a novice. I feel that one should not ponder much over the words and more to the "banana". Belief,on which I had stressed was the one for the virtues.How do you know that this thing which you have undertaken is goo or bad?.How do you "believe" that you are good?. Why is it that it is good not to hate?,Why it is good not to kill? To answer this we can safely 'Believe' in the experience of the Great Souls. In both Hinduism and Buddhism (and other religions)the essentials are the same(it is only that sometimes people twist things to suit there desires). So to know if what we are doing is good we can live life on their teachings. Hari Om Hiranyak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2003 Report Share Posted July 18, 2003 Om Hiranyak Som and All: , Hiranyak Som <heeranyak> wrote: > Hari Om everyone > > I don't know exactly what is meant by unsterilizing eggs.That funda(that eggs are now unsterilised and not bad) may have been propagated by the stalwarts of the poultry industry who marketed it into the innocent minds(I am from India but I think that some kind of law suits were filed against the tobacco industry > which had 'misled' the public) .... > However,I am going to pose a simple question- Is the human female egg vegeterian?. You just need to answer this to get enlightened. I meant "unfertilized" eggs, not "unsterilized," as in no possibility of a chick hatching. I don't really know how to describe what human eggs are composed of, but I do know that if it is unfertilized, it comes out during menstruation, and that does not equal the death of a child. I also know that if you reduce flesh and plant material down to their essential elements, the same substance is produced: gelatin. I looked up gelatin in a dictionary due to a friend's dream about sliding into a pool of it about a month ago, and here are the definitions I found: 1a) The basis of the jellies into which certain animal tissues (skin, tendons, ligaments, etc.) are converted by prolonged boiling. 1b) vegetable: One of the constituents of gluten, identical with animal gelatin. I checked out the link you posted about chickens. I have the video of Diet for a New America, so I'm not unfamiliar with the material. Still, so many humans eat meat, it seems that if it is evolutionary to move away from doing so, holistic, organic means, including raising animals with love and care on a small basis rather than the mass marketing that has led to atrocities you are well aware of, seem at least to be steps in the right direction. On the topic of vegetarianism, I ate dinner at an amazing restaurant last night called Juliano's Raw, which serves all raw vegetarian cuisine. It was so delicious and interesting, I wanted to share it with the group. I'm considering buying Juliano's "uncookbook," though I'm sure it's a lot of work to prepare the foods, they were so delicous and beautiful, as well as inventive. There are reviews of it available on http://www.amazon.com, if you search for "Juliano's Raw" for more info about the food and the book. According to USA Today: "Food fads come and go, Pan Asian, Haute Southern, Pacific Rim fusion, but the latest dining trend is actually the oldest: eating food raw." > Swami Vivekanand once said that-"Control the sense of tongue,become if this one sense runs wild,all others will follow suit." Could this have also (or instead) have referred to bringing sense to how we use our tongues in communication, and in other contact with each other? > You were very profound when you said that The Supreme IS and requires no belief. Thank you. By belief is meant however the "feel" of the Almighty.Don't get confused with the words.They are just "the peel of banana,what is "Real" > is the banana."-Sri Sri Ravi Shankar > I am not here to teach anyone as I am myself a novice. I feel that one should not ponder much over the words and more to the "banana". Have you ever tried eating a banana without removing the peel? The peel is also real, though not food. (However, according to Juliano, bananas are hybrids to be avoided, as is soy.) >How do you know that this thing which you have undertaken is goo or bad?.How do you "believe" that > you are good?. Why is it that it is good not to hate?,Why it is good not to kill? To answer this we can safely 'Believe' in the experience of the Great Souls. Not sure about "safely." Lots of beliefs lead to wrongly judging, and wrongly disregarding certain kinds of information out of fear. > > In both Hinduism and Buddhism (and other religions)the essentials are the same(it is only that sometimes people twist things to suit there desires). > So to know if what we are doing is good we can live life on their teachings. One thing I have noticed lately that is the same between Hinduism and Buddhism: A Hindu swami that a friend of mine follows said that human beings cannot understand the Ardhanareshwari because it is beyond their comprehension. I also read that the Buddhists have said that humanity cannot comprehend that the male and female are one. These statements do not further human comprehension, but limit it. For this reason, I know that it isn't "safe" to believe in or to live life on the teachings of others. Self-inquiry is a must. Om namah Shaktaya! (I know this is incorrect grammatically, but if male and female are One, why use different rules in grammer?) Love, Mary Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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