wat is good and what is bad???

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i was confused and couldnt get the answer to my question...

"what is good and what is bad??" is this term only defined by the

society?? and according to the book of karmas if everything is fate

and decided by god then why we define what is good and what is bad??

 

for e.g. worst come to worst... a one man kills a another man, the

first has done the crime agaist killing but according to karmas the

second had to die with the hands of the first then how do we define

that this deed done by the first is bad?, maybe its good for the

second to die as he's finished one of its karmas!!!???

 

similarly, why do we eat non-veg?? is it bad? cause we are killing a

body?? and is it good for us if we eat veg which is infact killing of

a body too..!!! is it good??? plants are also living creatures and it

has a soul too then why do we differciate between good and bad??

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Hi KR,

 

 

Karma Rama <dreamaker_77 wrote:

 

i was confused and couldnt get the answer to my question...

"what is good and what is bad??"

 

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Whatever you define, them to be

 

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is this term only defined by the

society??

 

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Well, there exists nothing like society.

 

Individuals exist.(so to say)

 

And individual(s) with certain attributes, are able to form groups of

invididuals and get them to carry his or values, vision,conceived goals,

.....hiding their agenda, under the name of this fictitious entity named

"society"

 

Which then decides the moral, cultural, ethical ethos of this "society"

 

Values, visions, conceived goals, which then establishes what this "society"

considers "good" and "bad".

 

Values, visions, conceived goals,are all expressions of the

conditioning-in-the-moment of the psycho-somatic apparatus, in question.

 

Which keeps on changing.

 

And thus your "good" and "bad" keeps changing.

 

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and according to the book of karmas if everything is fate and decided by god

then why we define what is good and what is bad??

 

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LOL

 

Indeed.

 

The whole theory of karma and karmic legacy, is one big spucatum tauri.

 

For it rests on the assumption of the existential reality of an independent

self, an entity, call it soul or whatever term,.......which moves through from

one life to another, carrying it's baggage.

 

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for e.g. worst come to worst... a one man kills a another man, the

first has done the crime agaist killing but according to karmas the

second had to die with the hands of the first then how do we define

that this deed done by the first is bad?, maybe its good for the

second to die as he's finished one of its karmas!!!???

 

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Absolutely.

Nature itself does not to care - about the man-made opposites or about this

world of opposites.

 

Nature seems perfectly satisfied and happy to produce a world of infinite,

rapturous variety that knows nothing about anything pretty or ugly, ethical or

unethical.

 

Nature never apologizes, never sees the need of it...

 

There is only "eventing", in the moment, .......there is no entity doing the

event, in the moment.

 

Eventing as an effect in the moment, which is the culmination of all causes.

 

And all effects, .....all events,..... being the cause in turn of all the

causes.

 

Even fundamental Science, has now debunked the notion of a linear cause-effect

continuum, something which the mystics averred, some five thousand years back.

 

But Organized Religion,...needs this notion of a linear continuum and an

indenpendent self to walk that linera continuum, in order to establisha nd

perpetuate it's power.

 

A holographic Whole....

 

A holographic whole, which is both the saint and the sinner, SIMULTANEOUSLY.

 

A holographic Whole, which is the Alpha and the Omega and the apparent notional

movement-in-between,...........all .....

 

......SIMULTANEOULSY.

 

With nothing...not being the holographic Whole,....

 

.....what bad karma,..

 

..what good karma, .....

 

......what karma at all.

 

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similarly, why do we eat non-veg?? is it bad? cause we are killing a

body?? and is it good for us if we eat veg which is infact killing of

a body too..!!! is it good??? plants are also living creatures and it has a soul

too then why do we differciate between good and bad??

 

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Again spot on.

 

Life, lives, gets perpetuated,..... by feeding on life.

 

Whether that life has legs or not.

Whether that life grows above the soil, below the soil.

 

On the gates of the Game Reserve in Tanzania, known as Serengeti, hangs a worn

out wooden plackard,.....

 

...."In the Serengeti, there is no malice, nor any remorse."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

onsdagen den 16 juli 2003 11.21 skrev Karma Rama:

> for e.g. worst come to worst... a one man kills a another man, the

> first has done the crime agaist killing but according to karmas the

> second had to die with the hands of the first then how do we define

> that this deed done by the first is bad?, maybe its good for the

> second to die as he's finished one of its karmas!!!???

 

You might be allowed by karma to have to kill another person, but you still

will get karma from the killing. Every act like this is due to the karma of

the receiving person, and by the act, the karma of the receiving person is

anilhiated. But you will create new karma for yourself by doing the killing,

and then you in turn will stand in queue to be killed by that person.

 

This is why samsara is seen like a rotating wheel. There is just no end to it.

The way to get out of the rotating wheel of samsara, is to stop creating

karma. So while still are letting old karma burn up, you stop creating new.

And then finally the wheel will come to a stop due exhaustion of your karma.

(this is simplified)

 

Some think that you by meditation can burn "bad" karma, but that is not true.

If you have created such karma as that I have the right to kill you, no

amount of meditation on your point can make me avoid doing it if I want to.

The way to deal with this is to either let yourself get killed, and not

retaliate, or simply make another offering to me so that I am pleased and

won't kill you.

(again simiplified, as any description of karma is. You can make prayers to

your god, that can intervene and break or modify karma.)

 

One way of getting rid of karma is to transfer it to someone else. That's

always possible. People who are couples share the karma with each other, so

things might happen to both of them, which is karma only for one of them.

 

Prisni