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Hello my dear Jill,

 

You always say things so well balanced:

> The outward activity in the world must take a form;

 

Exactly, and he {Gandhi) did not resist this "form."

> it is/was the work of others to define

> Gandhi's service in political terms.

 

Exactly, nor did he resist this "service" or 'function' (which is

actually a better translation for the term 'seva') - Krishna's wisdom

indeed realized.

 

May we all eventually fit 'form' and 'function', being 'empty', not

being the 'doer'.

 

Love,

Wim

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, "Wim Borsboom"

<wim_borsboom> wrote:

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> Hello my dear Jill,

>

> You always say things so well balanced:

> > The outward activity in the world must take a form;

>

> Exactly, and he {Gandhi) did not resist this "form."

>

> > it is/was the work of others to define

> > Gandhi's service in political terms.

>

> Exactly, nor did he resist this "service" or 'function' (which is

> actually a better translation for the term 'seva') - Krishna's

wisdom

> indeed realized.

>

> May we all eventually fit 'form' and 'function', being 'empty', not

> being the 'doer'.

>

> Love,

> Wim

 

:) ramana's function was 'his' apparent presence... being all in all,

there was no seva nor anyone serving (or to serve) there. only the

truth apparently responding instantly according to time, place and

people, without any plan, design or purpose.

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I like what you say about Ramana

> :) ramana's function was 'his' apparent presence... being all in all,

> there was no seva nor anyone serving (or to serve) there. only the

> truth apparently responding instantly according to time, place and

> people, without any plan, design or purpose.

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Hello Yosy,

 

Thank you for your reply. I can't think of Ramana and the Mahatma in

terms of 'categories', or make comparisons. I know looking at a

picture of either of them makes me fall down. :)

 

I was thinking earlier of the same quote you have copied. I am sure

Gandhi would agree with the quote entirely, and his life centered in

rigorous self-reform is the proof of my assertion. "Renounce and

rejoice", he said in response to a question asking him to summarize his

philosophy. The outward activity in the world must take a form; it

is/was the work of others to define Gandhi's service in political

terms.

 

Jill

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> :) dear jill, i meant in no way any disrespect to the mahatma, "great

> soul", whose exalted spiritual status was proven even at the the

> moment of death, while he uttered "ram, ram..." and whom i hold in

> highest regard.  being a trained lawyer, skillful politician and

> leader does not contradict it.

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> yet in order to act as he did in this world, the mahatma had to

> retain some trace of identification and duality to motivate and be

> motivated.

>

> but ramana mahar'shi, totally devoid of any trace of duality and

> illusion, belongs to entirely different category. even as the quote

> recently posted shows:

>

> >> When asked "What are your opinions about social reform,"  Sri

> Ramana Maharshi replied: "Self-reform automatically brings about

> social reform. Confine yourself to self-reform.  Social reform will

> take care of itself."<<

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> with sincere respect

>

> yosy

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