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> Hideeho Kheyala,

>

> > A little inquiry, here:

> >

> > Isn't the rebelliousness to the ignorance just further ignorance?

> > And isn't the fact that we already know that, the true reason for

> our

> > anger?

>

> Facts cannot make us angry. Judgements can make us angry.

> Judgements are not facts.

>

> > So it really isn't the ignorance of others that is so painful....it

> > is actually our own resistance to it, right?

>

> Yeah, to allowing others to just be who they are.

> But that ain't no fun when we don't allow ourself to be who we are

> too. :-)

>

> And if we can observe

> > our own resistance (even when it's enormous, 'cause Silence is

> always

> > bigger and always wins in the end),

>

> Not always.

> Sometimes silence is golden.

> Sometimes silence is yellow.

>

> which is Wisdom, then we don't

> > have to perpetuate the ignorance by broiling internally or saying

> or

> > doing anything that we will later regret.

>

> Right! Usually (always?) when we say something in anger, we regret

> it. But we don't have to broil internally at all. What's to get mad

> at with the ignorance of others? There are sooo many things we all

> are ignorant of. Like I was just at the advaitan list checking it

> out, and boy did I feel dumb. :-)

>

> Recognizing ignorance in another doesn't have to press our buttons.

> It just is what it is. If it's important for you to speak up about

> another's ignorance, then say it. There's a lot of places and things

> I've experienced, but also a lot I haven't.

>

> > Just discovering this in this moment, myself,

>

> And where else would you be?

 

 

hi Teegee,

 

ignorance pere se, leaves me cold

I can skip it, but when it is bullied

drilled and trolled in, and I see

its damage within a group: I see it

parakeeted by unsuspecting newbies,

or when I notice, that the ignorant

remarks were made with the knoledge

to their falsity, just to make a

point oh!!! that is when I am furious

and I went my anger in full force

untill the BS is revoked

 

oh god help me! <grin>

 

Karta

>

> Hugs,

> xxxtg

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