Murlidhar

The proof is He Himself, His divine work, His life, His millions of followers today and at His time, His ablity to give samadhi, His words, Many scriptures, The Vedas, Purans, Upanishads etc. All glorify Him.

 

Read His works and divine acts before questioning such my friend. Reaad Vasudev Mahatmyam in Skand Puran.

Swaminarayan devotees number about 5 million, out of nearly 1 billion Hindus. Only five million deluded Hindus consider this hoax to be god.

Jay Shri Krishna

Jay Swaminarayan

 

BAPS are wrong anyway. I follow the original worls of Bhagwan Swaminarayan.

 

By the way teh VAchnamrut if your read it for yourself.. You can see that i cannot be spoken by normal people. Also if you look tat he divine acts of Swaminarayan you will see that He is not a mere mortal. He Himself stated that He was Bhagwan. He is shri krishna he is Shri Raam. All abodes are His and He lives in these in different forms.

 

If you read about what He did in His human form you will come to realise that HE was Bhagwan Himself.

 

All avtaars are Him. To insult an avtaar is insulting Bhagwan Purshottam Narayan Himself. Such people never get to serve Bhagwan in His abode.

 

Many believe that Swaminarayan was a great devotee, but if the ybelieve such then why dont they look at what this "great devotee" did. look at his works as a human.. and you will clearly see His divinity.

 

Jay Swmainarayan

Jay Dwarika Dheesh

Jay Gopinath

Jay Girivar Dhaari

Jay Shri Krishna, has Sahajanand Swami been predicted in the Puranas like Kalki or Buddha? What is your position on Lord Krishna, do you think of him as Dev? Do you think Swaminarayan is greater than Krishna, why do you call Lord Krishna avataar and Swaminaryan 'avataari'? Why have all Swaminarayan "saints" accquired such a bad reputation as businessmen and having sex with prostitutes? Also where are the "original" Swaminarayan temples then and how are you different from BAPS?

Yeah and the beautiful thing is that the Acharyas state the same about Gopalanand Swami. This occured in Kariyani.

 

Acharyas stated that Swami is Biggest, and Swami stated that Acharyas are big. This was as they were nirmaani. But truth is Swami was like a mother figure to them. He was like their parent just like the Acharays today have big saints like a guardian.

 

Yes Gopalanand swami was Akshardhaam and Gunatitanand swami was too very samarth and he was the incarnarnation of Kapil Muni. Prasadanand swami the shishya of Bhagwan witnessed this and wrote it in His Vatus as well. This is just another wider reference. Many other referencs too state this. Such as Adbhutanand Swami ni vato.

 

And Gunatitanand Swami Himself states such in His vatus that:

 

"Olya Akshar pan Purshottam sathe padharya".

 

But BAPS version changes this. The original Vignandasji swamis (Shishya of Gunatitanand swami) hand written copy is available to view in Rajkot mandir under Vadtal Gadi.

 

Gunatitanand Swami refers (olya Akshar) to Gopalanand Swami as Akshar. 'Olya' meaning 'That one or HE' (masculine term).

 

Tejendra Prasadji Maharajs guru was Dharmkishordasji of Bhuj. Just like this.

 

People should read the origianal Scriptures or they will be lead away from the Sampraday that Bhagwan Swaminarayan Himself established.

Interesting, the BAPS believes Gopalanad Swami was an incarnation of

Krishna Bhagwan:ponder:

Okay people here is the true Swaminarayan philosophy (BAPS)

There are five eternal realities:

Jiva (soul)

Ishwar(lord like Shri Krishna)

Maya(illusion)

Brahma or Akshar(Gods divine abode personified in Pramukh Swami)

Parabrahma-Supreme God Swaminarayan

This in effect they put their Guru and Swaminarayan above our Lord SHri Krishna Bhagwan:mad2: . They believe those who believe in Krishna, VIshnu, etc will go to one of the infinite Golokas or Vaikunthas in the whole universe, but at Maha Pralaya, all the MULTIPLE GOLOKAS AND VAIKUNTHAS WILL BE DESTROYED ALONG WITH THEIR DIETIES LIKE SHRI KRISHNA ONLY SWAMINARAYAN AND HIS FOLLOWERS IN AKSHARDHAM WILL REMAIN!!!

In the BAPS mandirs they call Shri Krishna a dev and his murti is always much smaller than Swaminarayans. The BAPS devotees and sadhus always find ways of demeaning Shri Krishna and Bhagwaan Rama and so forth. Have you seen their Delhi Akshardham which obviously is a huge project in showing off! The statues of Swaminarayan and their Guru Parampara is IN GOLD while those of Shri Krishna and the other 'devs' are in marble and MUCH MUCH SMALLER! In the houses of BAPS devotees you will only find the pictures of Swaminarayan and their gurus who they worship as if they are also god. You will not find any other murtys of Shri Krishna or Ram or any other 'avatars'. To them Lord Krishna is just an avatar, an ishwar who is BELOW MAYA. It really pisses me off when they go to INDIAN FAMILIES ASKING FOR DONATION FOR THEIR LATEST MANDIR-which look more like palaces for their "saints".

Jai Shri Krishna