niche

prabhu am going too ...pretty excited as for me its gonna be first time !!

maybe you need to introduce yourself lil better !!

haribol !!

niche !

prabhu its hare krishna !!

well if its other traditions then i wudnt care..

BTW whats the reason behind not cliping tulsi on dvadasi ??

do we not have any awards for the ticklers !!??

Those who are actually advanced in knowledge are able to appreciate the essential value of this age of Kali. Such enlightened persons worship Kali-yuga because in this fallen age all perfection of life can easily be achieved by the performance of sańkīrtana.

clear enough.....sankirtana is seen as easier compared to the difficult forms of worship practiced in the earlier ages..

chant and be happy !!

hi,

my humble advice to mr. Tirisilex .... please be very careful of what you read .

particularly if internet is going to be your prime source of information.

it is very important to stick to one direction and understand it thoroughly before comparing or studying others.

it is ofcourse but natural that you're attracted to Krishna... as HE is ALL attractive. also consider yourself lucky..

but just be careful........if you are new and you stick to these forums here...you might end up wondering for long ,pulled between shiva and krishna's supremacy..... which somehow seems the most beloved SPIRITUAL discussion (argument) here.

all the best

pray to radharani if its krishna you feel for

hare krishna !!

niche !

so no tulsi on sundays is just a myth !!??

I fully agree with you,

Any one who want to know who is Krishna and Shiv Mahdev.

Please follow the verdict of Supereme Court in India the case between Shiva Devotees and Ramanand sagar's Ramayan. When Ramayan was released Mahadev Shiv ji was shown as praying to Ram. Shiv Bhakta's felt offended and took the issue to court and Supereme Court appointed saintly learned scholars and studied the scriptures them selves and concluded that it is not only correct but fitting as per scriptiures.

To be Frank I see Mahadev's temple, I make sure I should go and bow down at his feets and take his blessings because he is Mahadev but my pujnia is Krishna and Ram.

Vyasdev ji wrote all veda's and Purana's. But in the last when he was not satisfied he was directed by Narada Muni to write nectar of all vedas and Purans which is Srimad Bhagwatam. So latest version of all puran's and veda's is Srimad Bhagwatam. So we should follow Srimad Bhagwatam. Because when ever you find a product in the market with instructions you follow the instructions but when that product is modifed and new instructions released you would not like to follow the old instructions because it will not work.

Please I am not trying to offend any Shiv Bhakta's but trying to prove don't waste time in arguing too much but be humble and accept what is right and wrong.

few comments:

Lord Ram broke the Bow of Mahadev to get married with Sita mata. If, Mahadev is supreme Lord Ram could never Brake the bow.

We should understand very clearly that there is no body above or equal to GOD! If, we undersatnd this all our confusions will go away.

Lord Brahma said in Braham Samihta that

Ishvera perma Krsna

sat chit anand vigrah

Anadir adi Gobinda

Serv karan karnam

He is the cause of all causes and cause of him self. We should conside Lord Brahma as an authority.

There are lot of other facts which we should read and understand with devotion and we will know who is Supreme. Not with arrogance and anger. Mahadev Shiv and Krishna! will reamin mystery for one who try to read Srimad Bhagwatm with arrogance.

Second:

People think that when Lord Ram was praying to Mahadev at Rameshwaram means Mahadev is supreme. But if, Mahadev is Supreme how com Ram killed Ravana. Who was blessed by Mahadev. Dongre ji Maharaj wrote in Srimad Bhgwatam that Mahadev even gave his consort Parvati to Ravana because Ravana asked for it but it was Lord Vishnu who brought back Uma devi to Mahadev.

Lord was praying to Mahadev because Lord Ram is Mahadev's east dev. So Lord Ram has to inform Mahadev that now time has come that I have to kill your devotee because he is following irreligion. But we think that Lord Ram is praying to Mahadev but in fact as a respect to his devotee Lord Ram has to follow vedic principles.

Mahadev gave boon to Bhasmasur and Bhasmasur first wanted to kill Mahadev only and no body could save Mahadev but Lord Vishnu.

So Please if, some one wants to Pray Lord Shiva let him and want to follow Shiv Puran does not mean the truth will change. It will never change.

SO THERE IS NO NEED FOR FIGHTING AND ABUSING EACH OTHER> WHO EVER IS ABUSING CAN NEVER BE A SHIV OR KRISHNA DEVOTEE> THAT IS SURE BECAUSE NEITHER MAHADEV OR KRISHNA TEACHES THESE THINGS>

JAI SRI KRISHNA!

very well put fwd.

if nothing else then few people can surely learn how to pen down their thoughts with no arrogance or almost abusive tone

hari bol

most of the threads on these forums turn into debates.... rather arguments of almost no spiritual value.

am surprized ..actually confused............. is this what spirtiuality brings to you ??

then whats the point ??........arent we doin' just the same in our non spiritual lives... showing down others .. arguing / fighting / claiming ??!!

am honestly stuck.......when i started going through these forums i thought i cud learn from all you people who claim to be realized and intelligent..

but as i said ..so often these conversations turn into anything but spitiual or intelligent ... probably am not intelligent enough or was expecting too much

looking at the situation... am almost on the verge of loosing faith.

feelslike kalyug is winning over my aspirations to win over it !

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cute joke !!

now this is what makes everything lookes like a fairytale more than a legend.... there must be one well supported reason no ??!! why have so many stories .am sure we'll have more and more such reasons ... certainly great to ponder but whts the truth ?

can anyone underline the FACT ??!!

thankyou

hare krishna

i heard somewhere before that one shudnt pluck tulsi leaves on sundays ..!!?? is this a fact or a ..??!!

since nothing should be offered to the lord without tulsi leaves .. it is important for me to find out.

plz advice

thanks in advance !!

niche !

how can one explain 'pain' ... i mean the physical pain and not mental. that what we experiance when the body is subjected to physical abuse.

since body is material it shudnt feel pain ... and since soul (eternal and made of bliss )is different from body ,why is that we are subject to pain.

this question troubles me when i want to realize myself different from the material body and the subtle body... obviously at the beginners level i feel this pain which "i" feel due to this body is what makes 'me' consider this body almost same as "me".

actually just to know that RAMA is a valid name for krishna is enough for me to chant peacefully now !!

thanks everybody

hare krishna

no prabhu ..not uncertainity

just that i was hoping for someone else also to underline what you said.. coz i havent heard this from ne other source so far neither do i remember reading it anywhere else.

as i said this bothers me ...i wanted to be doubtfree about this whole thing for once and ever .

amslightly surprized maybe that no one else came forwrd to guide me on this....

certainly i am thankful to you for the explanation..which makes complete sense to me . was just hoping for a second opinion.

hope am not being offensive seeking this

thanks and regards

hare krishna !!

[quote=ragaEkanta-bhakti means worship of one ista-devata, not many -- even if they be different aspects of Visnu.

The meaning of Rama as either Balarama or Ramacandra is impossible when Hare is read as the vocative for Harā, or Rādhā -- neither are together with her by her side.

say what? If the moon is twice as far away as the sun, please tell me how our astronauts landed upon it?

 

Where does the SB state this? and lets see the context.

well just like you believe that 'our' astronauts landed on moon.... there are a lot of people who believe they never did ...

didnt you know ??!!

haribol !!

am sure there can be little more clarification on this.

i agree that the gadgets are used in sync with KC but yes they often give a wrong inmpression to the new devotees which can be harmful .

i one might question the usage of funds in this way... rather than providing i pods and expensive cell phones to brahmacharis they can be utilzed in better ways ..!!??

i have faced this question many times... but never cud think of convincing answer for myself.

u mean 2 say dat its wrong to be a gay/lesbian?

maybe you need to read it over again........ its pretty enlightening...

no where it says right or wrong !!??

so the rama in the mahamantra means krishna ??!! and not the ram avatar ??!

didnt know this ... how come no body told this to me before ..??!! i myself have read the meaning and explanation but dont think i ever read this view !!

can somebody doubly confirmthis ??!! i'll be truly grateful !

thanks !

seems i've posted this in the wrong place........!!??

plz excuse me as this was my first post !

advice me if i should move this

i wonder why do we glorify rama with krishna in the maha mantra ?!!

isnt krishna the greatest and ultimate alone ??!!

i remember asking this question once in the temple .... and i was told why not ..they are both d same!! .... but didnt find this logical enough .

i mean it sometimes bothers me to follow something i dont understand deep.

kindly enlighten ....... hopefully theres no offence done ??!!

niche !

i've wondered if there are no hogs and dogs in golok vrindavan ?? !!

as in, wudnt his only concern then be to serve the lord ??!!

with respect and regards for everybody on this forum am posting my first question ... hope i dont offend anyone.

coming to the point.... i 've started wondering that why should one worship / pray to a spiritual master who has departed from the world. considering that as a realized soul, he wud 've had achieved god's supreme adobe and must be fixed in pure service after leaving this material world. how wud then he be able to show mercy or bless those who pray to him..??

we cant deny his grace while alive as then he only can guide us, but after having reached the final destination how or why shud we think that praying to him will deliver us ?!!

this is my humble querry.... please enlighten me !

niche