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    Pranams to all.

     

    I am wondering what are the differences between Gaudiya Vaisnava line and Sri Vaishnava and Ramanuja lines.

     

    May vaishnavas here forgive me any offenses I might do in this thread.

    Namaste to all.

     

    Anyone, please?

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    Babji is supposed to be the 'Kalpa avatar' of Lord Krishna who is consequently also supposed to be Govindapada, the guru of Shankara. Sometimes Yogananda refers to him as "Babaji Krishna" He works in the background serves the purpose of educating the and purifying the monks at the highest level. It was he that told Lahiri Mahasaya to send Yogananda to the west to unite hinduism and christianity. It is said that he is at least 2500 years old and that he made a promise to his sister Mataji that he would never cast off his body.

     

    Any references from sastras on Sri Babaji being Kalpa avatara?

     

     

    Well, Sri Babaji has been seen by some devotees as manifestation of Sadasiva and Sri Krsna.

     

    Take a look at His website at:

    www.SriBabaji.org

     

    and personal experiences of His disciples and devotees:

    - Sri Babaji manifestation of Sri Krsna: http://www.sribabaji.org/portal/article.php?story=mahendra

    - Sri Babaji and Sadashiva: http://www.sribabaji.org/portal/article.php?story=sadasiva

    - Sri Sri Sitaram Das Omkaranathji Meets Sri Babaji: http://www.sribabaji.org/portal/article.php?story=sitaram_das

    - Sri Babaji is Lord Siva: http://www.sribabaji.org/portal/article.php?story=lama_baba

    - Sri babaji hints about His identity: http://www.sribabaji.org/portal/article.php?story=anadi

     

    Bhole Baba ki JAI!!

    Om namah Shivaya

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    There is, many mantras about the gopal mantras.. i think.

    ALso have seen but never that thank you is a superexcelent mantra, but first the Guru shall speek it on-to the Right side ear to his disciple´s ear.

    After being receiving iniciation, and hari-nama iniciation, then the dsciple shall hear the acme formula, jeje trough the Gurus - grace.

     

    If you can kinddly PM me this in a perfect mood to my inbox, it is interesting

    I am now readding the harinama maha mantra iniciation booklet, it is nice all about the holy names.

     

    I been entering static moods i can not even imagine whats on from now this.

     

    Gopala tapani upanisad.

    Allright namaste servant------ :eek3:

     

    I have heard at it when it is spoken to Gopa Kumar, and now Brahmä, Interesting.

    There are lots of references to Gopala mantra, as the highest of mantras of them all, in various sastras:

    - Brahma samhita

    - Sri Hari Bhakti Vilasa

    - Gopala Tapani Upanishad

    - Sri Brhad bhagavatamritam

    - etc...

     

    Run a search for these texts, you can get most of them for free...

     

    hari bol

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    hare Krsna,

    i do not want to hurt anyone's feeling but i have this quote from padma puranam

     

    A person who considers demigods like Brahma and Shiva to be on an equal

    level with Narayana is to be considered an offender and an atheist.

    Padma Purana

    Actually, the translation, direct word to word translation of this verse form Padma Purana goes:

     

    "Anyone who sees difference between the attributes, names etc of Śiva and Śri

    Visnu is certainly doing harm to the holy name of Hari."

    or

    "To see difference between the attributes and names of Śiva and Visnu is not doing

    good to the holy name of Lord Hari."

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    Kamalasana Das, namaste.

     

    Gopala mantra from Brahma Samhita and Gopala Tapani Upanisad seem to differ form the one in your signature.

     

    See:

     

    Sri Brahma Samhita, 5.24

    "Then the goddess of learning Sarasvatī, the divine consort of the Supreme Lord, said thus to Brahmā who saw nothing but gloom in all directions, "O Brahmā, this mantra, viz., klīḿ kṛṣṇāya govindāya gopī-jana-vallabhāya svāhā, will assuredly fulfill your heart's desire."

     

    Purport by Bhaktisiddhanta Swami

    The mantra, consisting of the eighteen divine letters prefixed by the kāma-bīja, is alone superexcellent. It has a twofold aspect. One aspect is that it tends to make the pure soul run after all-attractive Śrī Kṛṣṇa, the Lord of Gokula and the divine milkmaids. This is the acme of the spiritual tendency of jīvas. When the devotee is free from all sorts of mundane desires and willing to serve the Lord he attains the fruition of his heart's desire, viz., the love of Kṛṣṇa. But in the case of the devotee who is not of unmixed aptitude this superexcellent mantra fulfills his heart's desire also. The transcendental kāma-bīja is inherent in the divine logos located in Goloka; and the kāma-bīja pervertedly reflected in the worldly affairs satisfies all sorts of desires of this mundane world.

     

    Also, take a look at Gopala Tapani Upanisad.

     

    namaste

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    Hmm.

     

     

     

    We should be careful not to equate Vishnu with the demigods, including Lord Siva. Vishnu is non-different from the Personality of Godhead (Krsna). Lord Siva is in the marginal position between Vishnu and the jivas; he is the via media, and chief of the demigods, Mahadeva.

     

    Laghu Bhagavatamrita

    by Rupa Gosvami

    31

    Śiva's form named Sadāśiva, who is a direct expansion of the Personality of

    Godhead, is the cause of all causes, is free from the slightest scent of the mode of

    ignorance, and resides in Śivaloka, is described in the Vayu Purana and other

    scriptures.

     

     

     

    However, though they are not exactly the same, he (Siva) is a plenary portion of Vishnu. This can be understood by the example of milk and curd—one is simply a transformation of the other. Curd is very nice (as every devotee will agree), but milk is the origin, and fundamental constitution of the transformation.

    Gaura Ganoddesa Dipika

    by Śrila Kavi Karnapura

    76.

    Lord Sadāśiva, who formerly appeared as an avesa-incarnation in Vrajabhumi,

    appeared in Lord Caitanya's pastimes as Lord Advaita Gosvami, who is nondifferent

    from Lord Caitanya Himself.

     

    Caitanya Caritamrita (Adi-lila, 6.)

    by Krisnadas Kaviraja Goswami

    6.4

    Lord Advaita Ācārya is the incarnation of Mahā-Visnu, whose main function is to

    create the cosmic world through the actions of māyā.

    6.5

    Because He is nondifferent from Hari, the Supreme Lord, He is called Advaita, and

    because He propagates the cult of devotion, He is called Ācārya. He is the Lord and

    the incarnation of the Lord's devotee. Therefore I take shelter of Him.

     

     

     

    In addition, Lord Vishnu is never under the influence of Maya; He is her master. Only He can give freedom to the conditioned souls from her clutches.

     

    Who is that Maya? That is Durga, the external potency of Vishnu, and wife of Lord Siva. In His (Vishnu’s) transformation as Siva, he (Siva) is her controller. She is the personified material energy (mother), and Siva is the father. Lord Siva, as explained in the Brahma-samhita, is another form of Maha-Vishnu. As such, he is the father, and she (Durga) is the mother. This union is represented in the siva-linga. Siva is the form through which Lord Vishnu impregnates the living beings into material nature.

     

     

    Laghu Bhagavatamrita

    by Rupa Gosvami

    31

    Śiva's form named Sadāśiva, who is a direct expansion of the Personality of

    Godhead, is the cause of all causes, is free from the slightest scent of the mode of

    ignorance, and resides in Śivaloka, is described in the Vayu Purana and other

    scriptures.

     

    Vayu-Purana

    "But Śri Mahadeva's planet is outside of the seven layers of matter that cover the

    universe. It is eternal, blissful, real and attainable by His greatest devotees."

     

    Skanda Purana

    "Just as Lord Visnu is pervaded by Lord Śiva, similarly, in Śiva's heart Visnu resides

    and Visnu's heart is the abode of Śiva."

     

    Padma Purana

    "Anyone who sees difference between the attributes, names etc of Śiva and Śri

    Visnu is certainly doing harm to the holy name of Hari."

    or

    "To see difference between the attributes and names of Śiva and Visnu is not doing

    good to the holy name of Lord Hari."

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    Is this an offense ?

     

    Hare Krsna

     

    Sri Caitanya Mangala

    Madhya-khanda

    Why did Lord Caitanya Accept Śiva Prasada

     

    Once Damodara Pandita asked Murari Gupta, "Murari, why did Lord Caitanya

    accept the nirmalya [prasada] of Lord Śiva? According to a curse of Bhrgu Muni,

    Śiva's prasada is not acceptable. Yet why did Gauranga accept it? Mahaprabhu is

    Himself the Lord of the brahmanas. So, why did He violate the Vedic injunctions?

    Hare Kṛṣṇa Hare Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa Hare Hare || Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare

    The glories of Harihara 62

    Murari Gupta said, "Listen, Damodara. How can I know the mind of the Lord? I'll answer you according to my understanding. If you find it acceptable, then take it

    into your heart. If someone differentiates between Hari [Krsna} and Hara [Śiva] when he worships Lord Śiva, and therefore refuses to accept Śiva's prasada, he Commits an offense and suffers the curse of Bhrgu Muni.

    "Why? Because his consciousness is contaminated. He doesn't understand the

    glories of Lord Śiva. But he who accepts both Hari and Hara as one, and faithfully

    accepts Śiva's prasada becomes beloved to both Lord Krsna and Śiva.

    "One certainly pleases Lord Śiva with his food offerings, if he remembers that Lord

    Śiva is the greatest Vaisnava. One becomes free from material bondage by taking

    such remnants. Actually, when Lord Śiva saw Lord Caitanya taking his darsana, he

    joyfully accepted Gauranga as his guest.

    "The curse of Bhrgu is meant for materialists devoid of Krsna consciousness. If

    someone worships Lord Śiva in a friendly mood, he certainly develops his love for

    Śri Krsna. Śri Gauranga Mahaprabhu came to teach the proper path of perfection

    for people in general ."

    Damodara Pandita said, "Murari, you have kindly removed all my misgivings, and

    made everyone else happy too."

    Thus Locana Dasa describes the transcendental pastimes of Śri Caitanya

    Mahaprabhu.

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    Which is best to use?

    What is each of them used for?

     

    Śri Krsna Karmritam (2. 24)

    by Shri Lilashuka Bilvamangala Thakura

     

    “I have always belonged to the 'Śaiva Sect' and I have been sincerely chanting the

    "Śiva Pancaakshari Mantra" - "Om Namah Śivaya" all along.

    But I have no idea why this Young Sweetheart of Gopis is following me and my

    heart is also enjoying the remembering of His Smiling, Beautiful Blue face!"

     

    hari bol

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    Namaskar,

    We never do anything by us. we are controlled by God. He controls us and we do what he wants us to do. As what we want, we cannot do if God do not want. Although what we are thinking is also controlled by God. Then if this happen , then why do we do bad karma? Why we don't obey Sri Krishna.

    When we cannot do what we want, we give our cause to fate. then why we are not taking the name of Krishna. Does he not want some people to obey him.

    Is it really our fate or it is our Karma?

    Shuvo Roy

    BG. 5.15

    nādatte kasyacit pāpaḿ

    na caiva sukṛtaḿ vibhuḥ

    ajñānenāvṛtaḿ jñānaḿ

    tena muhyanti jantavaḥ

    TRANSLATION

    Nor does the Supreme Lord assume anyone's sinful or pious activities. Embodied beings, however, are bewildered because of the ignorance which covers their real knowledge.

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    I did not write with the intention of accusing you, I was just speaking generally. Siva is the greatest devotee of Lord Visnu therefore we should not associate him with the Devil.

    Hare Bol

    I believe that Shiva should be respected as Sri Krsna's dearest bhakta and His expansion.

     

     

    Laghu Bhagavatamrita

    by Rupa Gosvami

     

    31

    Śiva's form named Sadāśiva, who is a direct expansion of the Personality of

    Godhead, is the cause of all causes, is free from the slightest scent of the mode of ignorance, and resides in Śivaloka, is described in the Vayu Purana and other scriptures.

     

    namaste

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    Krsnas greatest devoutee is Shiva, and both are pleased if u pray for pure bhalti

    Yes, it seems so:

     

    Visnu purana (5.33.46)

    "Whoever is Lord Hari, He Himself is Lord Śiva indeed. Whoever is manifesting as

    Lord Śiva, He Himself is Lord Hari. Any human being mistakes both the Lords to be different, he/she surely goes to hell.”

     

     

    Vayu-Purana

    "But Śri Mahadeva's planet is outside of the seven layers of matter that cover the universe. It is eternal, blissful, real and attainable by His greatest devotees."

     

     

    Skanda Purana

    "Just as Lord Visnu is pervaded by Lord Śiva, similarly, in Śiva's heart Visnu resides and Visnu's heart is the abode of Śiva."

     

     

    Padma Purana

    "Anyone who sees difference between the attributes, names etc of Śiva and Śri

    Visnu is certainly doing harm to the holy name of Hari."

    or

    "To see difference between the attributes and names of Śiva and Visnu is not doing

    good to the holy name of Lord Hari."

     

    namaste

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    If the prayer is for spiritual upliftment and Krishna bhakti then praying to Lord Shiva is also pleasing to Krishna. The best example is the Gopis of Vrindaavana who prayed to Katyaayani devi so that they could get Krishna as their husband.

    Another example seems to be in Sri Brhad Bhagavatamritam by Srilla Sanatana Gosvami.

     

    Therein we read about poor brahman who prayed to Kama devi (wife of Lord Shiva) for wealth. She then appeared in his dreams and gave him Gopala mantra.

    By this mantra and by Her grace, this brahmana met Gopa-kumara (Sri Sarupa), who gave him everything...

     

    namaste

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    i do all for Krsna and the devoutees, and i chant hare krsna, still i have no hari bhakti, only shiva bhakti.. but i do have love for God in more a abstract way, but not directly to Krsna.. why is that?

    i meen, i have love for God in the jewish and muslim way, God without form, but ive have problems attaining love for Krsnas Form

    You will get there, I believe.

     

    See:

     

    Śri Krsna Karmritam (2. 24)

    by Shri Lilashuka Bilvamangala Thakura

    “I have always belonged to the 'Śaiva Sect' and I have been sincerely chanting the

    "Śiva Pancaakshari Mantra" - "Om Namah Śivaya" all along.

    But I have no idea why this Young Sweetheart of Gopis is following me and my

    heart is also enjoying the remembering of His Smiling, Beautiful Blue face!"

  24. Posted · Report reply

    Yes, He is.

     

    Gaura Ganoddesa Dipika

    by Śrila Kavi Karnapura

    76.

    Lord Sadāśiva, who formerly appeared as an avesa-incarnation in Vrajabhumi,

    appeared in Lord Caitanya's pastimes as Lord Advaita Gosvami, who is nondifferent from Lord Caitanya Himself.

     

     

    Please, do PM me for complete file on Sastra pramana on Siva tattwa as I can not send you message yet...

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