Dreamtime

Nekozuki wrote: I am not aware of any scientific data that contradicts the currently estimated age of the earth. Redhead estimated that Brahma is trillions of years old. I would not propose to put an age on God, however for the purpose of putting time into a mortal perspective, if we say that God is atleast trillions of years old, then life almost certianly has existed on some other planet prior to life on Earth. If a fragment of one of these ancient planets arrive on Earth carrying some of that life, then we could have a life form here older than the planet. There has been a rock fragment found that is said to have come from Mars that carries indicators of possible life there, but that fragment has been estimated to be much younger than Earth. This might also be the source of the origin all life on Earth, without contradicting my religion or the Hindu religion, if I am not mistaken.

Aninash wrote: As I said in my first post, scientists currently estimate that the universe is approximately 14 to 16 billion years old; since the Big Bang and I agreed with Aninash’s comment that the Earth is approximately 4.5 billion years old. This is an age difference of approximately 10 billion years. When we speak to creation in material science as opposed to religious science, we reach another juncture. Gnosticism is a pantheistic religion holding that God is all and all is God. From that perspective, God does not create anything, in a material sense, but only emanates what is already existent. The universe was molded from this already existent essence into its form, by the Gnostic Demiurgus [craftsman] which may be comparable to the Hindu manifestation Prajapati [this was spelled "Pragapati" in 100+ year old Upanishads translation that I read]. I find it intriguing that the Vedas, which some western scholars estimate may have some parts 6000 years old, speaks to multiple universes and time units that correspond to the life span of our planet. Since these concepts are only about fifty years old in material science I find this phenomenal. Is there any place in this web site where I can find the verses that speak to the multiple universes and or the length of a Brahma day.

I am Gnostic and based on my recent reading of the Upanishads, part of the Rig Vedas and some of the literature that those translations have led me to, I believe that Hinduism and Gnosticism have a common root or the same reilgion. I would like to comment on some of the comments that have been made in this thread. Guest wrote: Scientists currently estimate that the universe is approximately 14 to 16 billion years old; since the Big Bang. Nekozuki wrote: Scientists estimate the age of the universe based on the time that it would have taken the background radiation that was created during the Big Bang, to decay to its current levels. Guest wrote: String theory [which is state of the art in material science] has the hypothesis that there are potentially an infinite number of universes. Our universe is only one of these universes and it is the one that is being studied in the Big Bang; that we have evidence of. String theory also requires the existence of eleven or more dimensions. Guest wrote: Aninash wrote: Astronomers currently estimate that our sun will go red and expand to the point that it will burn up the earth in approximately 4.5 billion years and at approximaely the same time, the Andromeda galaxy will collide with the Milkyway galaxy [our galaxy]. I find it interesting that the previous life of this planet plus its projected future life is equal to one Brahma day. If anyone can provide me with the Vedic hymn and verses that give the information on the length of a Brahma day and the comment on unlimited universes, please post same. Sporkubus wrote: Verse 5 of the second Khanda of the Talavakara or Kena Upanishads says: