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More Hindus should get qualified as strong preachers of sanatana-dharma. Just like the Indian military, India has the biggest military in the world, over 1 Million soldiers. So, if India could qualify to actually train up 1 Million pure Vaishnavas of Lord Sri Krishna, Millions of Muslims immediately would give up Islam forever, like Sanatana Goswami or Rupa Goswami, very easily. First they were high appointees of the Muslim government, King, but when they met Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu they immediately gave up their Muslim identity.

True ... we need preachers. Secluded cave yogis have not helped.

Gurus are to be respected. A Guru is a guide who teaches us the path to wisdom.

 

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Guru are to be respected - TRUE. But Guru will teach you path to wisdom? WRONG.

 

He teach you knowledge, YOU find the Wisdom. Wisdom is not something can teach, it is something you think, understand and follow. If you cannot even know the difference between knowledge and Wisdom, I have nothing to say further.

 

Yes, i agree thee are bogus Gurus but can you prove to me Swami Vivekananda, Ramakrishna Paramamsa, Ramalinga Swami or Sri Satia Sai Baba are bogus and in what way?

 

No one said they are bogus and no one said they are great. I said condemning a Guru EQUALS to condemning Hindusm (as you stated) is BOGUS. As far as I know, all I need to know (about Hindusm) is in the Vedas and Gita, I don't need to follow some Human Guru to find wisdom.

 

Sure, you are free to speak yoor thought and make whatever accusations you want but a true follower will know the truth which truth is hidden from you because of your ego.

 

You speak as if you are a true follower. I will not be bothered with a person who has such delusion, thinking by following some Guru, he had become wise and in path to God. Go ... you in your own delusional path.

You got it right man.

Guru's are indeed teachers. Not all guru's are seers (I think 1 or 2 comes in a thousand years or more who are seers) though they inherit the path to attain knowledge. We need to sit humbly at their feet and acquire all there is to know about yoga and sadhana. Strictky within the boundaries of sadhna a Guru is God. Beyond that we should not sacrifice our rationality, our knowledge and experience and above all teachings of the vedas and lord krishna. Anyone who has truely followed what our avatars did and tought, should not have a doubt that we need to kick Islam's butt urgently. That hardly any guru had the courage to speak this clearly (I must say some did) only shows why we are not in the glorious years of ramrajjya but captive and injured in our own land.

Hari Om

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You are a new hindu Apep, Vayuputra's views are somewhat older-the idea sarba dharma samanaya which became popular in the last century is still the most popular understanding of religions among hindus. No wonder christians have made huge progress with conversions in history of independent India than they had ever before. Signs of death you are seeing!

You mean spirituality as a business? Guru business?

NO

Should have used a bigger font. I know scores of so called hindu's do it. They are one of the big enemies to our dharma. Dharma, Artha, Kama and Mokksha are all different. Lets preserve this sanctity.

Sanskrit literature is exceedingly vast, profound and life-transforming. But what do Hindus practice and present to the world about their religion, philosophies and traditions? Whatever is

primitive and ugly. Whatever brings ridicule

upon themselves. Then try to justify and defend every stupid superstition and practice.

The dot on the forehead was invented by priests

to make their wives look as ugly as possible to other men.

If you had any idea about yogic reasons for rituals you will know that both posters you are referring 2 are somewhat correct. It may need more explanation, but it's better to keep quite rather than making too much mental generalizations on these very scientific rituals. Those who have never practiced the rituals and intellectualize about our philosphy have done more harm than who blindly follow it. For the general public red dot should be enough as a cultural statement. For those who want to know more practice yoga and rituals. Our customs is not the reason for our downfall - it's lack of idea of the political dharma (aka Rajniti) that's the reason.

Firstly, thanks to Kalkin for posting the article on Anatta.

My little experience with buddhists have convinced me that they will bring the concept of non-self=no self as means of proving buddhism is something entirely different than hinduism. It's a little funny, as what is self or non-self is beyond mind - the place of dependent origination. So quite beyond argument.

It is sad, that except for this quite abstract concept, we share so much in common we still keep arguing we are different. Dharma is for living, not for dry intellectual discourse which goes nowhere. On many key aspects of dharma hindu and buddhists have a similar view. On spiritual quest we both belive that mind is the place of bondage and we both meditate to still the mind - quite irrelevant then to argue what lies beyond.

Please present your evidence that it isn't sinful to kill animals and eat meat.

 

The Gita proclaims any action not done for the purpose of sacrifice as sinful, and specifically states food that is not offered to God is eating sin:

 

3.13

 

yajna-sistasinah santo

mucyante sarva-kilbisaih

bhunjate te tv agham papa

ye pacanty atma-karanat

 

"The devotees of the Lord are released from all kinds of sins because they eat food which is offered first for sacrifice. Others, who prepare food for personal sense enjoyment, verily eat only sin." - Bhagavad-gita 3.13

 

yajnarthat karmano ’nyatra

loko ’yam karma-bandhanah

tad-artham karma kaunteya

mukta-sangah samacara

 

"All action must be performed as a sacrifice for Vishnu, otherwise any action will cause bondage in this material world. Therefore, O son of Kunti, perform all actions for His satisfaction, and in that way you will always remain free from bondage." - Bhagavad-gita 3.9

Let me first point out that the 2 slokas dosen't say meat eating is sin. They say something quite different. First one say's that those who eat food which has been first sacrificed in the yajna are liberated from all "sins", those who only prepare food for personal consumtion only are consuming sin.

2nd sloka is not at all related to food habits.

Now can you present a case why vegetarianism is not killing? You are not going to argue the plants are non-living, I hope.

Gita and Hindu/vedic philosphy is much more rich and profound than abrahamic concept of rules of God. In this world consumption is the way creation process works. One being consumes the other, one thought consumes another (in our mind). One strong and true doctrine often consumes the weak and false ones. To realize that this is the way of the world, yet I'm not this, is the goal. Eating animal is 100% sinless, unless you torture the animal for pleasure. As I have said, vegetarianism has to do with sattvic qualities in veg diet. Nothing else.

Non-Violence (ahimsa = absence of himsha/in mind) <> Non-Killing. If you really follow later without a pinch of hypocracy, you will be dead - right now!!!

Just my understanding.

What do non-meat eating Hindus think of people who eat meat including beef?

Is it bad for a hindu to eat meat? I am not a vegetarian.

I have tried being a vegetarian with no avail.

I have come to terms with myself on this in a positive manner. I even give thanks to the divine for the meat that I do eat.

I do hope this post does not offend anyone , but I must ask in order to secure my own knowledge on the subject.

( Also I am new to hinduism all togehter. I am currently trying to convert to Shaivism.)

comments?

I was born a brahmin and I have always ate meat. In my region (eastern <st1:country-region><st1:place>India</st1:place></st1:country-region>) meat eating is accepted even in brahmins. Food habits are determined by the geo-physical location of the individual. Some areas' veg diets are not easily found. There is absolutely nothing to do with vegetarianism and non-violence. This extreme position is only there in few cults and may have to do more with Jainism and Buddhism. Those who think non-violence implies vegetarianism have neither understood non-violence nor vegetarianism. I don't intend to indulge into arguments on this, but concept of non-violence is much more profound than jainist/buddhist non-killing - after all lord krishna inspired arjuna to slay his cousins!!! Vegetables are living beings too and eating them is killing as well.. Shakta’s sacrifice various animals in rituals – before consuming them.

So eat what is more naturally available at your place. Vegetarian diet is more full of sattvic qualities helpful in a spiritual life. Meat is Rajasik or Tamasic depending on how it is prepared. That’s the only reason Veg diet is preferred, and it may not be suitable and possible for all.

But please abstain from eating beef, if you plan to become a Hindu. There’s no alternative there.

Thank You for this wise post.

So evil is the nature of ignorance inherited in human beings? We cause our own evil?

Am I right?

I know Hinduism is non-dualist but I must ask a question:

Is there a deity which proceeds this ignorance that leads to evil?

Evil is an abrahamic concept. Their is no evil in Hinduism - we have Asurik development. Chapter 16, Gita is the place to look for the characteristics of the Asurik mind. In one word it's the ego and self determinism that's the evil.

Don't go too much into dry dualism , non-dualism arguments, they have cost the hindu society dearly. Focus needs to be on what is dharma and what is not. Wha's our goal in life and what's not.

Abrahamic concepts of good and evil etc are imaginary concepts with no basis in our body, mind or higher realms of consciousness - except in blind faith, which is ignorance. And based on this ego and ignorance the evangelist's and jehadis have destroyed in past 2000 years many good things and cultures from this beautiful earth. They claim to have assured themselves place in a heaven after 1 birth, but that doesn't stop them to treat mother earth as their personal property. This exact behavior is termed as Asurik.

Hindu’s believe they will be born again and again on this planet till liberation or maha pralay. But we are told at the same time to free ourselves from worldly bondages. We come here many times but we don’t treat her like our property. Quite a contrast!!

Am I right to assume there is a cultural invasion of Islam in India? I have heard this many times.

It was always my thought that the muslims lived in Pakistan away from India. Why do they come to India?

Also I see no Indians invading Pakistan culturally, again I ask why do they keep coming to India?

Forgive my ignorance on the subject I am relatively new to the subject.

You may do some search on hindu websites for more scholarly articles. You may devote sometime to study of koran and islam, and find out that they are not supposed to stop killing until the world is muslim. But the main question remains - what you gonna do?

For all the misinterpretations of the hindu scriptures (the greatest personality that was ever born on earth, who inspired the mighty warrior to slay his own family - as revenge of injustice/ashurik is the greatest dharma, has since become playmate to gopis and bhaktas) that have gone around for even a longer period of time than muslims have been here - it's not possible for most hindu's to realize that it's time to fight or die.

But I believe in 2 mantras now: -

1. We will eradicate the world from islam and radical xian’ity

2. Our victory is certain as we are with the dharma.

May Dharma be triumphant again.

Hari Om