nachiketa

Originally posted by bhaktajoy:

Krishna will descend again after 8.5 billion years as told by Srila Prabhupada.

I thought it was ~427,000 years, at the end of Kali-yuga.

Originally posted by ram:

What you got is an abridged version. If you rpomise to hold conferences, they will give you a two hour video.

http://www.goveg.com/r-mym.html

The two hour video is looped to repeat the same video. Also, there are

other "investigation" videos of slaughterhouses. But, after seeing "meet your meat", that was more than enough for me.

ram mentioned in his orginal post that it is a two hour video. However, it is only 11 minutes as stated on PETA's website and the copy that i viewed.

Originally posted by stonehearted:

Why can't you just tell them you don't care for them?

because, before I used to eat meat, onions, garlic, drink coffee and tea, etc. It's just that most of my friends and relatives can't understand why I did a complete 180.

ok, I can understand caffiene, but personally onions and garlic never had an effect on me. So does this mean I have to stop eating spicy mexican food w/ jalepenos and food products that contain sugar, which can also be considered a stimulant, and other refined carbohydrates?

How do you give a rational explanation to non-devotees or even vegetarians why you abstain from onions, garlic, caffiene, etc. By rational I mean not quoting from SB or Gita, saying Krishna says so, or that it increases the mode of passion and ignorance. Especially when talking to non-Indians and westerners who have never heard of Krishna, most of them just get turned off.

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http://www.vnn.org/world/WD0205/WD06-7311.html

I emailed the person mentioned in the article today and received a response within a couple hours. he/she, not sure, is mailing me the cd free of charge.

I've seen his show several times and would also like to know if he is really able to contact deceased family members.

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Thank you for all of your responses. They have helped me understand why we should abstain from eating eggs and products that contain eggs.

Eating egg is not allowed because of suffering and torture those helpless birds endure.

Then drinking milk should not be allowed because of suffering and torture those helpless cows endure.

"Corporate-owned factories where cows are warehoused in huge sheds and treated like milk machines have replaced most small family farms. With genetic manipulation and intensive production technologies, it is common for modern dairy cows to produce 100 pounds of milk a day— 10 times more than they would produce in nature. To keep milk production as high as possible, farmers artificially inseminate cows every year. Growth hormones and unnatural milking schedules cause dairy cows' udders to become painful and so heavy that they sometimes drag on the ground, resulting in frequent infections and overuse of antibiotics. Cows -- like all mammals -- make milk to feed their own babies -- not humans."

"Dairy products are a health hazard. They contain no fiber or complex carbohydrates and are laden with saturated fat and cholesterol. They are contaminated with cow's blood and pus and are frequently contaminated with pesticides, hormones, and antibiotics. Dairy products are linked to allergies, constipation, obesity, heart disease, cancer, and other diseases."

for more information: http://www.milksucks.com/index2.html

Thus, why is acceptable to consider milk a proper food for humans? because Krishna was a cowherd?

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thanks!! that's only a ten minute drive from my college.

I've been reading this message board for the past month and finally decided to register today.

I am an American born Indian coming from a family of Vaishnavas. Although my dad is not very religious, my mom prays everyday at a temple set up in our house that contains a picture of Shrinathji. I never understood who or what it was, and whenever I asked my mom, she would just say it was a Hindu God. See, all of my life, I have dreaded going to the temple because everytime I would just sit there listening to bhajans I couldn't even understand. Although I can understand Gujarati, I can not speak it that well, and can't understand Hindi at all. And I never understood why people would pray to all these different types of mythological gods, especially the one that has an elephant head, Ganesh.

Fours years ago I travelled to India for the first time. I'm 20 right now. We travelled to Mumbai, Gujarat, Delhi, Agra, and Mathura. Now in Mathura, we stayed at a devotee's house and the entire afternoon he told us about Krishna and his pastimes, as well as the Gita. We visited several temples and a Ghat by the Yamuna. At an area with small trees where Krishna played with the Gopis, my mom told me to take some sand off of the ground and taste it. At the time I thought it was pretty odd, only later to find out the significance of that act. Then in Mumbai, I visited the Hare Krishna temple and saw a bookstand outside with a copy of the Bhagavad Gita As It Is. Now, keep in mind, besides hearing somewhat about it back in Mathura, all I knew was that it was about a mythological blue God that our family worshipped. So I bought a copy and began reading it. That's how it started.

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