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    Hi does anyone know where i can find the translated Vyas sutras from?


    I'm guessing you want it because it's one of Sahajanand Swami's eight authoritative scriptures in the shikshapatri. I'm looking for it too but i can't find it.


    BAPS is BAPS they fall under their own banner. They were created in 1907 not at the time of Bhagwan Swaminarayan. They broke away from the original sect.


    and you know why they broke away? here let me tell you. Bhagatji maharaj was an ardent disciple of Gopalanand Swami. when Gopalanand swami was on his deathbed, bhagatji maharaj became overcome with remorse. he asked Gopalanand swami - 'swami, now who will guide us'. Gopalanand swami replied - 'what sort of guidance do you need? If you wish to learn the ways of material and mundane affairs, then go to Punja Sheth of Gadhada. However, if you wish to learn the worldly and spiritual ways, then go to the Jogi of Junagadh(Gunatitanand Swami), for there is no sadhu that can match him. Bhagatji maharaj became the choicest disciple of Gunatitanand Swami, and Gunatitanand swami himself told him that he was the 'Akshar' Gopalanand swami always preached about. Bhagatji maharaj wished to become a sadhu, but Gunatitanand swami instructed him to live the life of a householder. Shastriji maharaj met bhagatji maharaj while he was giving discourses, and became Bhagatji maharaj's most beloved devotee. Both started spreading the Akshar Purushottam upasana, which was disliked by the sadhus and devotees of vartal. They tried poisoning him. Shastriji maharaj smelt the pungent of poison from his food, but could not refuse to eat as it was prasad offered to God. So he ate a small amount. He staggered downstairs and fell unconscious, luckily caught by his devotees, who cured him. The sadhus and devotees of vartal also tried pushing Shastriji maharaj and his devotees into boiling kerosene barrels. still shastriji maharaj refused to leave, since vartal was a prasadi spot of Shriji maharaj. Another ardent devotee from gunatitanand and gopalanand swami's time was 'krishnaji ada', who also believed in the akshar purushottam upasana. worried for shastriji maharaj's life, he showed shastriji maharaj a shikshapatri shlok which said that 'if a devotee is in danger, he should pack his belongings and with his family go to a safe place where they can life happily'. Shastriji maharaj realised that he was directly disobeying Shriji Maharaj. So with a heavy heart, shastriji maharaj left vartal with his devotees and started BAPS. The immoral acharya of that time hastily excommunicated shastriji maharaj. he was later excommunicated himself when his immoral activaties were found out.

  3. honestly why are u complaining about BAPS. and why do u care. You don't have the right to say what is right and what is

    wrong to other religions/sects, simple as that(unless we have said something bad about ur sampraday FIRST). If u are from swaminarayan sampraday then good for you, I'm not gonna stop you. If you have a problem with us being in BAPS well then theres nothing you can do but go have a cry in the corner of ur bedroom. we have not done ur sampraday any harm, so no need to insult our BAPS. and one more thing.......YOUR NOT GONNA CONVERT US NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU TRY.......so its better u just leave us to do our bhakti. I honestly hate these 10 year olds on the internet who do not have ANY SENSE OF MANNERS to others and annoy the absolute crap outta them, like you. SO JUST PLEASE SHUT UP AND GET LOST, coz ur not gonna change our mindsets. It is impossible to make us convert coz BAPS EK PARIVAR. stop trying to show us your 'proof' of the scriptures and aarti, coz seriously we cannot be bothered reading it. i feel more comfortable under Pramukh swami. if you have a problem with that, well I'm afraid you can't do anything


  4. Ok for all those people claiming that Ram is better, Krishna is better, Swaminarayan is better, Shiv is better etc etc

    I've only got one thing to say..............

    Jag mein sundar hein do naam, chaahe Krishna kaho ya Ram. Bolo Ram Ram Ram, bolo Shyam Shyam Shyam.

    Yes thats right. People worship their particular God or Goddess because He/She is very beloved to them. We, as human beings, have no right whatsoever to try to change anyone's belief. Pray to your God/Goddess with utmost faith, devotion and love. This is more important.

    Whether you are Swaminarayan, Vaishnav, Jain, Shaivite etc, THE BEST RELIGION IN THE WORLD IS.......


  5. Bhagatji Maharaj was a shishya of Gopalanand Swami. When Gopalanand Swami was on his deathbed Bhagatji Maharaj started crying. Gopalanand Swami, before returning to Akshardham, told Bhagatji Maharaj that if he wanted to learn all about materialistic and wordly affairs then go to a king, and if he wanted to learn about both wordly affairs and spiritual knowledge then go to the Jogi of Junagadh, Gunatitanand Swami, the master in spiritual and materialistic knowledge.



    Once Gopalanand Swami told some haribhakto farmers to go to the farm and harvest the crops. When the haribhaktos reached there Gunatitanand Swami told them to go back and he himself will do the harvesting. When the haribhaktos came back Gopalanand Swami reprimanded them. They replied saying that Gunatitanand Swami had sent them. Gopalanand laughed and said, 'Oh, it was the Jogi of Junagadh! Then stay, because he is the only saint in the entire universe who is better then me.'

  6. the reason why sahajanand swami wrote that followers of the sampraday to worship shri krishna baghwan is because he could not reveal to everyone that he was god. try announcing to everyone that u r god, will they believe u? no. only the pandavs, bhishmapita, dronacharya, uddhavji, vidur knew krishna to be god. most of the yadavs did not know krishna to be god. Similarly only devotees and sadhus like dada kachar, sura kachar, nityanand swami, gunatitanand swami, gopalanand swami, shukanand swami, muktanand swami,brahmanand knew sahajanand swami to be god. most haribhaktos knew him to be a great holy man or a sadguru, not god.

  7. not trying to cause more dispute here, but i must say this because im BAPS


    the vadtal diocese sadhus and devotees did try to poison Shastriji Maharaj. Shastriji Maharaj knew there was poison in his food from the smell but he had to eat it because it was Shriji Maharajs prasadi food. Also they beat up Yogiji Maharaj and his accompyning blind sadhu and as they were doing it they said 'lets see how your Gunatit comes and saves you'. luckily some BAPS devotees came there and settled everything.

  8. Our BAPS santos dont follow the principals of Maharaj.............OMG..............your santos are the ones who were involved in scandals. Also, your santos look at women, take money...........and you say our santos dont follow the principles. LOL . If the Vadtal sampraday was the true sanstha Maharaj wanted, im pretty sure he would not let it become so corrupt as it is now.



  9. Jai Shri Krishna

    Jai Swaminarayan


    I'm a Swaminarayan(BAPS) and a disciple of HDH Pramukh Swami Maharaj. Here on these forums there have been alot of fighting between the Vadtal/Ahmedabad sect and the BAPS sect. Whenever we say that BAPS is the sanstha Maharaj wanted, the Vadtal followers always ask for proof from the Swaminarayan shastras(seen it many times). Well, not everything has evidence. A criminal accused of murder but there is no evidence does NOT make him innocent. Proof, we want proof, arrgh! Realise this(this is not based PROOF, this is based on logic and example). If we were vimukh, would Bhagwan Swaminarayan allow us to grow into such a big organisation. NO HE WOULD NOT, Bhagwan would do something to get rid of Pramukh Swami Maharaj, but no He didn't. If the Vadtal sect was the true sampraday Maharaj wanted, He would not let it get involved in corruption and scandals. In fact, even if the true sanstha did get involved in immoral practices(like Vadtal), i would guarantee Maharaj would incarnate to set things right, but no He didn't. He has let the Vadtal sect get involved in scandals because it is NOT the sanstha He wanted. This is not based on proof, this is based on example. Now stop asking for proof and realise this.Oh and by the way, Krishna is Swaminarayan and Swaminarayan is Krishna.


    Jai Shri Krishna

    Jai Swaminarayan

  10. And by the way, we DO NOT ever believe Pramukh Swami Maharaj to be God, but we believe God to be pragat in Him. The satpurush has in total 64 divine virtues. Please read a book by BAPS called 'Eternal Virtues' It talks about Pramukh Swami and his 64 virtues. Each chapter is one virtue and has prasangs(stories) of Pramukh Swami showing and proving that He has that virtue. We DO NOT mock any God/devta/devi either. Also not my whole family is Swaminarayan. My Dad is a devout Ram bhakta, My mum is vaishnav, and I am Swamianaryan


    Jai Ramchandra

    Jai Sri Krishna

    Jai Swaminarayan

  11. I am a bhakta and follower of the BAPS Sanstha, and a disciple of my priya Pramukh Swami Maharaj. But i want to clarify some things. I do not believe Swaminarayan is greater or inferior to Sri Krishna


    Swaminarayan Bhagwan and Sri Krishna are the same. Their childhood leelas were so similar. For example, they both loved makhan and stole it alot, both troubled their Mothers etc.


    Swaminarayan is purna Purushottam. This has been proven because he had all the 16 symbols of Purna Purushottam Narayan on his lotus feet.


    There was once a time when Ganshyam maharaj were having darshan of Sri Krishna during Janmastami. Suddenly people could see two Ganshyams, one next to the murti of Sri Krishna in the same flute playing pose, and the other next to His father, Dharmadev. Another miracle was when the murti of Sri Krishna came to life, walked down the stairs to Ganshyam and garlanded him. I believe both are the same


    Jai SriKrishna

    Jai Swaminarayan

    Jai Hind

  12. When Purushottam incarnates on Earth in his FULLEST form, He as 16 symbols of divinity on his feet, and He is called Purna Purushottam. Krishna Bhagwan had the 16 symbols, so He was Purna Purushottam. Ram Bhagwan, had only 12 symbols. So He was a partial incarnation of Purushottam, and He was called Maryada Purushottam, not Purna Purushottam This does not mean he was inferior. God incarnates to the extent of power that he needs. Since Krishna Bhagwan incarnated to kill Kansa and win the epic Mahabharat, Purushottam came as Purna Purushottam. Ram Bhagwan came on Earth just to kill Ravan, so not all of Purushottam's power was needed. Lord Swaminarayan was also Purna Purushottam, since he had all 16 symbols on his feet. Original footprints of Lord Swaminarayan are still out there in Mandirs. But most of the symbols on them have faded. The only set of Lord Swaminarayan's footprints which the symbols are visible are in the BAPS Ahmedabad Mandir. Lord Purushottam needed to incarnate as Lord Swaminarayan in his fullest form because at that time India was steeped into darkness. When man indulged in immorals such as drugs, adultery etc. Lord Swaminarayan enlightened countless souls and changes immoral people and tantrics into compassionate, pure satsangis


    Jai Swaminarayan

    Jai Ramchandra

    Jai Shri Krishna

  13. Hey hey hey, this does not happen all the time. My family are Patels and we never disregard any God be it anyone. My family is hindu but we all follow our own ishtadevs. For example, my Dad is a devout Ram bhagwan follower, he never fails to sing Hanuman chalisa everyday. My mom follows krishna bhagwan because she has so much bhav for Him. And me, i follow the BAPS sampraday. We are not one of those families which have a ishtadev and parents force their kids to follow the family ishtadev. And we NEVER disregard any Devi/Devta

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