Max_

Well for a long long time now I have not been able to chant, or read any Krishna Conscious material with any sense of true devotion. I thought it would eventually pass and I would finally be able to focus, but it hasn't and it has just gotten worse. I no longer see the point in chanting, especially since I don't feel anything when I do so.

I live in a rather busy city in Canada, with trucks going by all the time, people yelling, TVs blaring, and computers beeping, it's not possible to meditate in any way. I don't drive and live too far away from a temple to go to one and do such things, so I'm stuck. I've more or less "given up" on that side of things, as someone living in West to live like a true Vaishnava is just not possible. But I will continue to read Srila Prabhupada's books, and Bhagavad-Gita, and anything else of that sort that I can get my hands on. Because I still feel that the Vaishnava philosophy is the greatest one ever, it makes the most sense to me, if I were a Christian, or if I were a Muslim I would still say that your philosophy made the most sense of any "religion" ever.

So I want to thank all the devotees who I've ever talked with, and who have supported and encouraged me, maybe one day I can reach a level of devotion as great as you guys. Maybe one day I will attain true God Consciousness

God bless you all,

Max

If you don't believe we're in Kali Yuga all you have to do is look around, read the news, read about the endless flow of murders, and rapes, and natural disasters. If you still don't believe we're in the Kali age than you need to get your eyes checked...

Ideally the perfect devotee would have no taste for anything in the material world. Unfortunately we are not perfect devotees, so we still have many material desires, the key is not to be attached to material things. For example if you bought a really nice expensive jacket, you may really like it, but say it got caught in a fire and burned to ashes, if you were not materially attached to it than it's no problem, you won't feel any grief or anything like that.

You totally need to do one in Norwegian!

I know exactly how you feel, and I know how frustrating it is too. Actually what you said was kind of shocking to me, because it sounds so bad but it rings so true.

" sometimes wish that I never learnt the truth like .. plug me back into the matrix. I cannot enjoy material life because I know it’s not real, and at the same time, I totally suck at KC."

Like I said I totally know how that feels. I was raised Catholic, so when I was still Catholic I would feel very guilty, and wish that I never learned about any of this Christ and God stuff. Then it turned to anger I guess you could say. Then I did a lot of soul searching, eventually landing on the KC religion. But like you said, it's a constant battle, one that I'm not sure I'll ever win.

All the BBT versions are fine. Just on the later ones the Sanskrit scholars changed a few grammatical things to be more true to the original Sanskrit.

Hare Krishna!

I do believe Prabhupada said even if you are committing offenses still chant, chanting being the most important thing.

I'm a Canadian born white boy, that's why no one likes me.

But he says he's fine, even though I know he's probably far from that.

I gave him the link to that site.

My friend told me that he tried to hang himself, but stopped at the last minute, deciding that he wanted to live. Then he told me when he does want to die he is going to commit suicide. I told him he should talk to a professional about his problem, but he refuses. I don't know what to do. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Haha I wish I could. There is no temple anywhere close to me, so that's an near impossibility. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

I haven't been able to chant at all for weeks and weeks now. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Very nice site, thanks for the link.

Hare Krishna

Did Srila Prabhupada or any other great Vaishnavas have any comments on devotees reading the Bible?

My point was . like human skin, let alone bird can can't pass unprotected through Earth's atmosphere and not burn up. That's why you need spaceships made of out metal and such.

Unless you're talking about the Phoenix from Greek mythology or something, than birds can't fly from planet to planet. The air gets too thin and cold when you get up near Earth's atmosphere and you die.

How do you explain the fossils then?

Is there any way you can back this up? 5000 years doesn't seem like nearly enough for some reason.

Those ring so true to our modern age.

In defense of Muslims there are some of them who are strict vegetarians, just like some Christians are strict vegetarians. Also it's pretty ridiculous to say that every Muslim kills humans, I mean come on.

I'm personally not angry, I'm just really frustrated. If for the simple fact that there are tons and tons of Christian chats/message boards etc. how many Hare Krishna boards/chats have you come across? not many I'd assume. This is one of the few places on the net people can come to talk about KC topics without beings verbally abused by people.

Yeah I seen that site, it's pretty cool.

It ranges, Shelters older CDs are very hardcore influenced, their most assessable album is probably Mantra, which has very very KC lyrics and a more poppy sound I guess you could say. I'd start with Mantra if I were you. Message Of The Bahagavat is one of the coolest songs ever I think.