abmind

His advices may bring trouble to you, think twice and take another person advice before following his advice.

The person who is in search of a real answer would never find contradictions anywhere. It might be your thoughts for your life which are contradicting with the theory.

With Best Regards,

 

May God Bless All!

 

Om Namah Shivaya!

Not really. You can figure out when you read couple of times. But that is not important when your thoughts are noble.

God bless you.

First radar was invented. Then came jammers and all sort of devices to neutralise that system of radar technology. Now the icident is not a new one nor first one.We all experienced this things. What is there to neutralise that vidya which is passing our details to others. How this leakage of information can be reduced. How we can mask or puja? When we are revealed, then we get un-necessarry intereferece from people who are habitual to interfere. This will help us all. Any reply ?

I like your intention. Reciting Hanuman stotra and hanuman chalisa every day will protect this type of attacks IMO, though I am not sure but heard.

^ Yes. Sentences contradict each other.

I actually have a Ganesha murti, but only accidentally. I bought it a few years ago at some "exotic crafts" store. Can I use the statue instead of a picture? I'll admit, I am very low on money and can't really afford expensive altar things, though I would love to. I'm hoping to set up an altar this weekend since it's my last week of school.

 

Don't a lot of Hindu altars/shrines offer incense? I have tons and tons of incense cones(regular incense is way too strong for me) that I need to get rid of, if you know what I mean. The problem is, I have 2 Doves that live in my room with me, as well as a hamster. Due to this, incense is a no-no. What can I include with my altar that will give off fresh scent that is not dangerous to animals? I was thinking fresh flowers or something like scent pouches.

As Mike explained and as per my knowledge, a 3D Murthi should be prayed with daily rituals. You should offer Naivedyam every day atleast either with a combination of cow Milk & sugar in a small silver bowl or new steel bowl or sweet payasam. Deepa Araadhana ( New cotton wick lit with cow ghee or with oil atleast) should be given. Cleaned flowers and cleaned fruits are also can be offered. Incence stick at least smokeless should be burnt. It is a symbolic offering that you are burning your ego or desires to a final form that cannot be reversed. Initial prayer should always be performed on Ganesh followed by other gods. Gods are to be prayed by offerring turmeric powder and Kumkum ( Yellow and Red colored powders, prepared from fresh crop - Available in Srilankan stores) and Akshantalu ( prepared with rice and turmeric powder) with three fingers (other than index and middle fingers). Harathi (with Camphor) can be given at the end. You should put bindi on your forehead before praying and sprinkle akshintalu on head after prayer.

Forget to mention, you should take bath (preferable headbath) before prayer and wear fresh colths while praying.

Though worship demands your time and effort, you will be blessed with desirable will power to sail through your life hurdles. Don't look for any return or warranty but pray with selfishness. God bless you.

PS: The prayer procedure I provided above is a typical South Indian style. There can be different versions changed over time.

Please forgive my ignorance, but what does 'upanayanam' mean.

It is a vedic ritual (Sacred thread ceremony) indicating second birth in pursue of education accepting teacher as Father.

Yes i think they still are.

But god is reffered to as ishvara by most.

 

THe one all pervading.

Highest

There can be one right?

not millions.

Right. Supreme god is one either Maha Vishnu or Maheswara. Most of the people would prefer to call say for example Ganesh or Kumara as gods instead of demigods.

Maybe you are unaware of this, but millions and millions of people do not believe in the soul or eternal life.

Maybe in India most everyone believes in karma, samsara, jivatma etc. etc., but in many parts of the world people do not believe in the soul.

They only believe that they are the material body and mind and that at death they cease to exist.

They don't believe in God, but they think they are the doers.

So, this is called AHANKARA.

Do you know about AHANKARA?

 

Maybe you should find out about this false concept of AHAM as AHANKARA.

I think I am aware of Ahankara or Ahankari. A person who possess Aham is called Ahankara or Ahankari. We call that person as egoist in English. I am skeptical to tranlsate it as false ego as did by Prabhupada. I always view Aham as ego as an undesirable attribute yet we can't get rid of it, though it varies in degrees between person to person. I believe AHAM is an attribute of a living form like the wetness of water. How religous we are, we will view women as women and dog as dog. We always fail to see the common among all just because of material comparison. Aham can be in various forms at action level, oral or spoken level or thought level. Unfortunately Human beings are not immuned to cease it completely as the AHAM is the attribute of a biological body and biological needs bring out the AHAM always. I have to agree with you it will disappear during spiritual union with the god but come back again. I have not seen a person or a religious preacher who will not display AHAM in any form.

I figured out you are referring the AHAM displayed in physical level as false ego.

I think Budhists and Christians also believe in Karma and reincarnation but they cannot understand the metaphysical complexity of Hinduism.

oh yes

but waht im saying is can you call indra the god?

or varun the god?

if then there would be many gods

the word demi god signifies theuir divinity but their limitation also.

 

ypu know these keep on changing in every world

even brahma vishnu madhesh are different in every world

Weren't Varun and Indra were Vedic gods? I agree Hindus are not praying them now.

Let me explain it again.

Ego is a Latin word for "self".

We should not confuse that with "false ego".

............

Ego is the sense of individual existence.

It is the Latin word for the soul or the self.

 

The term ego is not a derogatory term in it's original form.

It only becomes derogatory when it is said as "false ego".

 

Ego has wrongly become a derogatory term in modern vernacular, but strictly speaking in the original Latin it simply means "self".

I am not aware of latin origin. Let us discuss original Sanskrit word AHAM, which is transliterated as Ego.

I have not seen using the word AHAM in good sense and not aware there is one more attribute called bad AHAM.

When you identify yourself as "I" with reference to "NOT THIS and NOT THAT" which is a part of Maya is also Maya. But ?How? cannot you identify yourself when you are in a bodily form? When you say "I", how can get away from AHAM. It is only possible when you cannot see yourself for ever IMO.

I think somebody explained before.

What is unreal is ego. What is false is ego. There is no ego in real or truth or absolute but it manifests in maya. The ego ceases when liberated from maya, the material world or visible universe. One cannot destroy ego but can hide by controlling senses. Though ego disappears in sound sleep but only temporarily.

I am agreeing completely with your post # 10.

My bad. Thanks

^ Dictionary interpretations will not reflect true meaning of Sanskrit words. The visual meaning is different from literal meaning.

I hope you read Puranas to understand about Gods and God head. Maha Vishnu is not demi-god head or head of demi-gods.

:smash::smash:

Ur pt? Nirguna boy..

I am sure god doesnt like you or me to know it .

 

I think that is entirely divine business.

Definitely not you and me but there are people who can see percieve divineness. Some people call logical regression.

The term 'demigod' was used by Srila Prabhupada to translate the word 'deva'. It is also used by his successors in the same way.

 

The word 'deva' most certainly means 'god', not 'demigod'. In fact, the word 'deva' is the origin of the Latin word 'divinus', from which comes the English words 'divine' and 'divinity'. It is the origin of the Latin word Deus, meaning 'God'. I would not be surprised if at one stage the word was Devus. The original Latin alphabet used 'v' for both 'u and 'v', so it would have been written as DEVVS. It wouldn't have taken much to get rid of one 'v', making DEVS (the spelling of Deus in old Latin manuscripts). The Nicene Creed reads "Credo in unum Deum, Patrem omnipotentem..." meaning "I believe in one God, the Father Almighty..."

 

Even in English, the word 'god' (with a small 'g') means 'a divine being'. We talk about the Greek gods, the Egyptian gods, the Norse gods, etc. None of them are considered to be the Supreme Lord.

 

According to Gaudiya Vaishnava theology, Krishna is the Supreme Lord, and Lord Shiva, Lord Ganesha, Lord Murugan, Mother Durga, and the other gods are His servants. They are like ministers under the Prime Minister, who is Krishna. They are not considered to be different forms of Krishna, but instead independent beings who are subordinate to Krishna.

 

When Srila Prabhupada came to the West to preach Krishna Consciousness, he had to make it understandable for Westerners, whose concept of God came from Christianity. If he had used the word 'god' to translate 'deva', people would have immediately thought his movement was polytheistic. Therefore he used the word 'demigod' in order to emphasise that (according to him) the devas are divine beings, but they are subordinate to Krishna and are not equal to Him or different parts of Him.

 

As Deathless has pointed out, the word 'demigod' has some problems when used to refer to the Hindu devas. It literally means a half god. The word 'demigod' is used to refer to Greek heroes like Perseus and Heracles (Hercules), who were born to human women who were impregnated by the god Zeus. They are half human and half god, like a 'liger' is half lion and half tiger. The Hindu devas are not like that at all. They are entirely divine beings, and so the term is inaccurate. Srila Prabhupada should have just used the word 'deva' and explained what it meant.

I agree with you. We should discourage the use of term Demigod in lieu of Devas. Each Deva has some divine attributes which will fit in to the likings of individual and selecting him or her as Ishta Daiva. At the same time people should not confuse with Devas from Maha Deva who has limit less divine attributes which make him a God head either Maha Vishnu or Maheswara.

About the involvement of god during re incarnation?

Mortals like Humans take re-birth, where as God re-incarnates.

 

Humans take rebirth as per the balance in Their account( of good and bad deeds done during the past lives)of fate, also called prarabhdha,

and hence take better, equal or lesser forms of life during their next birth.

 

God has no such accumulations, and he reincarnats only to UPHOLD RIGHTEOUSNESS, DESTROY THE WICKED MINDS AND ENCOuRAGE GOOD DEEDS.

Please read the verse " YADA YADAHI DHARMASYA GLANIR BHAVATI BHARATA......" wher the above theme is reiterated.

I didn't mean God has karma accumulations. You interpreted wrong. Please read the beliefs of various religions about reincarnation. For example though Budhists believe reincarnation they will not believe the influence of the God during reincarnation even Sikhism and Jainism also believe in same. Where as Hinduism endorses the influence of God in addition to Karmic balances. There is a vast difference between these two beliefs. Various Hindu rituals devised to support this belief and in practice among Hindus.

^^ I think time is not important here. It can be less than a year and can be many years. The soul has to wait to take its destined birth basing on the accumulated karma. The time of rebirth should satisfy the celestial rulers as the forecast of the person depends on time of entry. We have proven astrology system is also in working. Some schools avoid the involvement of god in this process but Hinduism considers.

Any body has deep insight? about the involvement of god during reincarnation. Please share.

Frankly speaking, I do not want to argue with you;

I think that is a good idea. I too feel same.

Best Regards.

abmind

 

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I read it. Your puranic interpretation is not valid.

Big bang is out of scope for any historian. Our forefathers originated from Africa from a group called HomoSapiens, about fifty thousand years ago. From there they migrated to all corners of the globe including India. At that time, they certainly did not have a knowledge of OM. They came to know about OM only recently. And if two sects exist with one sect preceding the other by several thousand years, it is common sense to draw a conclusion that the knowledge was first known to the older sect.

Well.. If you go by History to understand religion, you have to wait another few thousand years. Because Hindu religious writings are prehistoric and the origin was time immortal. I am surprised how can you claim Vimanas were used in Lanka basing on History. Can you provide some archelogical references.

Which Ramayan are you talking about? Ramayan was written and re-written over a hundred times in the last nine thousand years. Each time, new flavors and new legends were added to it. The original Valmiki version showed Siva in an extremely inferior light. It talks about a war between Vishnu and Siva, in which Vishnu wins easily. The original version does not talk anything about Ram and Ravan worshipping Siva. In fact Saivism was not even present in South India at the time of Ram. Dravidians migrated to South India from Gujarat after being displaced by Great Drought of 2200 BC, which lasted three centuries. They traveled through Maharashtra, Karnataka, Andhra, and finally Tamilnadu. These five places are therefore called Pancha Dravidas.

It is funny. Go to South India and compare the traditions among Dravidians with that of Gujaraties. You find the differences.

Ravanausra is a devoted Shivaite and he observed severe penace for Shiva. Your rejection is ridiculous.

Any how, good luck with your book.

Hello Prithvi,

Any book is to be written subjectively but not objectively. As per your statements I can think your writing is based on a sponsered objective. Unfortunately that will not help you in any way as you have lost precious time of your life for a twisted truth. Before commenting anything on your writings, can you elaborate,

What are the Hindu scriptures you read before writing this book?

The cosmic sound OM or AUM is the driving force of this universe. This subtle acoustic spectrum is the enregy driving all these planets and universe. Our ancient seers with their divine knowledge forsaw this sound and told us. Till today scientists with their X-ray telescopes could not spot the sound but claiming this as CMB originated during Big Bang. Before, they claimed entire universe is vacuum and sound will not travel. We should feel proud about our ancients who gave us a valuable indepth understanding. They advise us to recite the same sound which can energize our cell beings as we are the representation of microcosmic being. Your staement looks so childish to claim that "OM" is the property of Vishnava sampradaya.

Also When demon Ravanasura was alive he used to pray Shiva being the Supreme God as his god and treat Vishnu as his rival? Then when this Vaishnavism migrated to SriLanka?

^ It is funny some of Hindus suspect the Shiva being Supremebeing. If you understand the true meaning of ShivLing you need not think a second to find out who is supreme.

Prior to Vishnavism as promoted in Veda's (promoted with a purpose), there was only one religion and Shiva is the God. Shiva is an universal God. He is god for any living being including humans,gods,demons,animals or what not. Thats why Shiva's linga contain no shape. He is not a human or demon or animal or any living creature. He has no race. He is everything. If you read Upanishad, you can find..

" HE IS THE ONE NONE TO SECOND

HE IS NEITHER THIRD NOR FOURTH ...AND SO ON

HE IS FIRST '' MEANS EVERYTHING EVOLVED FROM HIM AND BELONG TO HIM.

Thats why SHIVA has no shape or form but to identify him SWAYAMBU linga ( his stone not to be cut but formed naturally) has been proposed and worshipped. He is eternal which has no beginning or end thats way you cannot see any ends for Shivaling. During this time there were no restrictions to pray him. No body is forbidden to pray SHIVA beacuse he is god to animals also. Cow and Bull are his sacred animals.

Secondly, as per SHAIVA SITHANTA Shiva is universal energy and he is ultimate Shakti and every being is evolved from his energy. The divine energy of any individual being belong to him which leaves physical body upon death. This divine energy carries a charge. ( Remember Bohr's atomic theory which states every atom has positive protons ,negative electrons and neutrons which keep the atom neutral in elemental form).

Similarly Ancient Hindus ( Hindu word is coined by westerners) established this relation time immortal. This individual energy in any being carries a charge which can be a positive charge or negative charge and upon your daily actions this changes constantly. Ancient Hindus coined the word PAPA if you do a sin or bad act for negative charge and PUNYA if you do a good act for postitive charge. This balance of both the charges keep changing during your life time based on your actions and leaves your body to reach SHIVA ( Universal God) and continue in incarnation depending on the balance charge till it attains MOKSHA which is called liberation. Thats why Indians don't beleive in Physical form of the body. Their every action belong to this divine energy or soul. Their celebrations start when this divine energy joins body till leaves its physical form and rituals continue till 5 or 12 years after the death for the soul. Some people wonder Why Hindus celebrate Death? even Goutam Budhdha also wondered and he went to meditation comes with the same thoery of Karma. Karma is nothing but the balance of these two charges. Hindus celebrate death because soul leaves Physical form and joins Universal Shiva fulfilling Physical activites. The SHIVA who is father to all PATHI's ( Means beings) is also named as PASUPATHI. The link between PASU and PATHI is by PASAM also called bondage. It is beyond the scope of understanding within physical world, because it is eternal and one needs JNANA( there is no word in english, don't get confused with knowledge) to understand this concept. This JNANA can be attained by Meditation, by Prayer, by Mantra etc. which is a mind related function ( Science doesn't know what it is but do know it has some relation). Hindu's pray in temples and Home only to attain this Jnana to undertsand about this divineness of thier own and Universal. So Hindus cremate bodies but they never bury them because they dont believe in physical body. Physical body is maya (Vacuum) and eternal life is real as per the Hindu Philosophy. If any body tries to understand with physical knowledge they dont find an answer.

The above few lines are just about Shiva Philosophy and there are many extensions to it and are within the frame work above and within logic and with a purpose.

Shiva in Human form is actually of Rudra's in Vedas which was accepted by all as Vedic scholars pushed the trinity theory promoting Vishnu. Praying Shiva statues other than Shivalinga is not permitted though we see his statue in Vaishnav temples but not in Shaiva temples.

I personally feel these discussions are unnecessary when it is the time to unite all Hindus when Hinduism under attack by other religions(Islam and Christianity). All Hindu religions follow the Sanathan Dharma KARMA, ARTHA, KAMA and MOKSHA.

AUM NAMAH SHIVAH